Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

KH25 · 13-07-2014 07:46PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Hummells getting ruined by messi twice.

The list of defenders who haven't been ruined by Messi is very small.

Giggsy11 · 13-07-2014 07:48PM

Crimson King wrote: »

You sure it's net? Also it's euros and the rumour mill reported united were offering £230k which is a huge increase on €110k he seems to be currently on. Pogba is on pretty low wages too comparatively. It's what I always maintain, these rumors are agents pimping their clients out.

Italian, Spanish papers report net wages. Yeah its 11 Million Euros which is around 8.8 million pounds.

newballsplease · 13-07-2014 07:51PM

KH25 wrote: »

The list of defenders who haven't been ruined by Messi is very small.

True.

In normal circumstances does he lack pace ?

KH25 · 13-07-2014 07:59PM

newballsplease wrote: »

True.

In normal circumstances does he lack pace ?

From what I've seen of him, no.

Crimson King · 13-07-2014 08:06PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Hummells getting ruined by messi twice.

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Italian, Spanish papers report net wages. Yeah its 11 Million Euros which is around 8.8 million pounds.

Interesting, never knew that.

DM_7 · 13-07-2014 08:07PM

Lots of defenders end up in trouble when teams play with a high line.

ericzeking · 13-07-2014 08:17PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Lots of defenders end up in trouble when teams play with a high line.

And lots and lots of defenders end up in trouble when faced with Messi!!

Bleating Lamb · 13-07-2014 08:23PM

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

user2011 · 13-07-2014 08:25PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

United wouldn't be playing as high a line as Germany to be getting caught out.

Bleating Lamb · 13-07-2014 08:30PM

user2011 wrote: »

United wouldn't be playing as high a line as Germany to be getting caught out.

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

DARK-KNIGHT · 13-07-2014 08:31PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

messi is probably in top 3 of best ever players he is also lightening fast give hummels a break.

Lucas Hood · 13-07-2014 08:32PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

So you sign a defender who's quicker but not quite as good actually defending?

GSPfan · 13-07-2014 08:40PM

Vidic used to look crap against Torres. Still a brilliant defender.

KH25 · 13-07-2014 08:41PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Vidic used to look crap against Torres. Still a brilliant defender.

Very true. Torres used to terrorise Vidic quite a lot. Even the best can be made to look ordinary when they face world class opponents.

Larry Wildman · 13-07-2014 08:42PM

Maybe we should sign Usain Bolt and play him at centre half?

Problem solved.

user2011 · 13-07-2014 08:42PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

Won't happen if the high line isn't being played.

And just from the few games in WC, LvG won't be playing the high line. Weather it's 5-3-2 or 4-3-3 the defense will be set right, be deep then counter.

I wouldn't be signing/not signing Hummels to stop Messi, I'd be happy to sign him to get us to face him then let the manager get the tactics right to stop him.

Chagan · 13-07-2014 08:43PM

If we're judging players based on how they do in 45 minutes against Lionel Messi then we'll never sign anyone.

Bleating Lamb · 13-07-2014 08:43PM

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

KH25 · 13-07-2014 08:44PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

In your opinion then, who is?

GSPfan · 13-07-2014 08:44PM

That Argentina jersey is beautiful by the way. I'm crossing my fingers for adidas to win the contract for our kit. Please.

Quandary · 13-07-2014 08:45PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

Who would you have instead of him?

Larry Wildman · 13-07-2014 08:45PM

I was at the Champions League semi-final in 2008. United dealt with Messi really well that night. Evra in particular was unreal.

Paul Tergat · 13-07-2014 08:47PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I was at the Champions League semi-final in 2008. United dealt with Messi really well that night. Evra in particular was unreal.

Messi was barely back from an injury.

The thing is, when he is on it nobody can stop him. He is not the yardstick to use when measuring a defender.

dahat · 13-07-2014 08:49PM

GSPfan wrote: »

That Argentina jersey is beautiful by the way. I'm crossing my fingers for adidas to win the contract for our kit. Please.

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Rayne Wooney · 13-07-2014 08:52PM

Hummels has been excellent

user2011 · 13-07-2014 08:53PM

dahat wrote: »

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Was thinking of signing up to twitter to start a "no chev logo" on United jersey campaign

Lucas Hood · 13-07-2014 08:54PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Hummels has been excellent

Wouldn't say excellent he's been OK. Boateng has played better than him.

Bleating Lamb · 13-07-2014 08:54PM

Wouldn't sign anyone,Evans and Jones are up to it,just keep them fit,signing off now;)

Nemanrio · 13-07-2014 08:58PM

dahat wrote: »

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Agreed sponsorship logos in general destroy a jersey

Felexicon · 13-07-2014 09:11PM

Mother of god. Was going to come in and jokingly post that I wouldn't buy Hummells now because Messi has made him look a bit ordinary at times tonight.

Some people just shouldn't comment on footballers

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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