Do you have a sneaky hope that the Orange Order will riot at the weekend.

Da Shins Kelly · 09-07-2014 04:33PM

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

No. I for one am really proud of how far Derry has come in the last few years and this year has been another cracker for the city. I would hate to see that ruined by a load of youths who have no fecking idea why their fighting with eachother in the first place, as none of them were alive during the troubles never mind English invasions.

This is it. The people rioting tend to be people who have no idea what they're rioting for and are just using the tension as an excuse to engage in anti-social behaviour and be an all-round nuisance. Why anyone would revel in people wrecking the place and adding fuel to the sectarian fire is beyond me.

Gallowglass · 09-07-2014 05:44PM

I noticed that the GAA shirt hasn't been worn on EastEnders again due to the fuss Willie Fraser caused,

did you all know that some of the Fraser clan of lowland Scotland fought alongside Robert the Bruce against the English, that would give Willie the shakes if he knew.

I was correct about the decorations in the local town, a big arch with an image of King Billy on it and about 10 union flegs in the center of the town and Ulster banner bunting hanging everywhere. I would gladly sign the country up for another 200 years of being in the UK if they agreed to stop using the red hand of ulster on their loyalist flegs, it makes me sick.

dd972 · 09-07-2014 05:49PM

neamhspleachi wrote: »

They prefer to be classed as Ulster Scots rather than Irish

I prefer classing them as unwelcome interlopers that cuckooed there way in to our country by royal proxy

but it's ouurrrr weee cuntry, so it is, ( and we're the master race of the island )

http://http://thecommune.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/567613710_l.jpg

pavb2 · 09-07-2014 07:33PM

mickstupp wrote: »

What is wrong with you??

When I read that I heard her voice

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MikeSD · 09-07-2014 08:00PM

So when's the idiot that made this thread going to be banned?

Tail Docker · 09-07-2014 10:31PM

I had a goo at "The Bonfires", then I lolled a bit about all the "emissions" guff we hear..massive, enormous piles of old tyres, sure burning them has to be good for the environment....I wonder if I go outside and burn a load of tyres, what will happen?

mfceiling · 09-07-2014 11:04PM

Just to be slightly pedantic here OP...

It won't be the Orange Order who will riot this weekend.

It will be a mixture of 14 - 50 year old scumbag, tramps in their finest tracksuits, who like nothing more than throwing bricks etc at the police force. Yet the same pricks would have a fit if their dole money wasn't there every week. They'll have no trouble launching missiles at an ambulance, but would go mad if the same ambulance wasn't outside their door when their overweight parent had a chest pain from eating junk food and smoking all day.

And to answer your question - No, i wouldn't like to see riots anywhere - doesn't do anyone, on any side, any favours.

Karl Stein · 09-07-2014 11:54PM

mfceiling wrote: »

It won't be the Orange Order who will riot this weekend.

Plenty of OO sashes to be seen in this pic?

wazky · 10-07-2014 12:00AM

Karl Stein wrote: »

Plenty of OO sashes to be seen in this pic?

And it wasn't the 14-15 year olds who were attacking the police with ceremonial swords last year....

mfceiling · 10-07-2014 12:06AM

wazky wrote: »

And it wasn't the 14-15 year olds who were attacking the police with ceremonial swords last year....

Ok point made...however it will still be about a 95% ratio of scumbag to orange order member who will riot this weekend.

wazky · 10-07-2014 12:07AM

mfceiling wrote: »

Ok point made...however it will still be about a 95% ratio of scumbag to orange order member who will riot this weekend.

Some would make the observation that the groups mentioned in the ratio are the same people....

Shakespeare's Sister · 10-07-2014 12:10AM

The Britain First Facebook page gives a good insight into these mouth-breathers' attitudes. Difficult to read though. Someone linked me to it, had a look, and just clicked out. Some things are just not worth the frustration.

vicwatson · 10-07-2014 12:19AM

There'll be no orangemen kicking off against Germany on Sunday anyway

Mal-Adjusted · 10-07-2014 12:28AM

Gallowglass wrote: »

I noticed that the GAA shirt hasn't been worn on EastEnders again due to the fuss Willie Fraser caused

There was a GAA shirt on Eastenders? that's news to me, when was this and what fuss did he cause?

Remmy · 10-07-2014 12:29AM

Karl Stein wrote: »

Plenty of OO sashes to be seen in this pic?

One of those guys has been rumbled , he's brandishing a shillelagh!

Shakespeare's Sister · 10-07-2014 12:30AM

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

There was a GAA shirt on Eastenders? that's news to me, when was this and what fuss did he cause?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/willie-frazers-fury-over-gaa-shirt-in-eastenders-dismissed-as-absurd-and-inappropriate-30018460.html

"A GAA jersey glorifies the IRA" - bonkers doesn't even begin to come close.

Lenin Skynard · 10-07-2014 12:35AM

mfceiling wrote: »

It won't be the Orange Order who will riot this weekend.

It will be a mixture of 14 - 50 year old scumbag, tramps in their finest tracksuits, who like nothing more than throwing bricks

Gimme a break. The Orange Order and the people you mentioned are one and the same. 14-50 year old scumbags who wear sashes during the parade and tracksuits at night.

Kiwi in IE · 10-07-2014 12:37AM

They are not great for tourism! If I had not moved to the Republic I would not ever have visited NI in my life. I visited England & Scotland x 3 and Wales and Ireland x 1, prior to meeting Irish OH and eventually moving here, but NI was considered pretty much a no go zone. The sectarian crap does get a lot of International publicity! Foreigners who see that carry on in the news without having an in depth knowledge of the situation and history are likely to wonder if it is safe. And to be honest, unlike some other countries that share that reputation, there is really not enough that makes it particularly more interesting compared to it's closest neighbours to make it worth that risk, however slight the risk may be (unless one is especially fond of Flags). That's my 2 cents worth as an ex tourist anyway for what it's worth. And possibly the situation is improving, my travelling days were early to mid 2000's, but this annual show in the international media can't help.

Tail Docker · 10-07-2014 12:37AM

Remmy wrote: »

One of those guys has been rumbled , he's brandishing a shillelagh!

I lolled at the lad in the samsung skang-shirt. Woolies trainers and he's stomping on riot-bars. How sore was your foot the next day you tool?!

somefeen · 10-07-2014 12:52AM

mfceiling wrote: »

Ok point made...however it will still be about a 95% ratio of scumbag to orange order member who will riot this weekend.

No, it will be 100% scumbags rioting. Some percentage of the scumbags will also be OO members.

Karl Stein · 10-07-2014 12:54AM

I think in the interest of fairness it should be noted that that the pic I linked to was one of only a few flash points; the majority of the OO parades/events were incident free.

thelad95 · 10-07-2014 01:15AM

6541 wrote: »

I really hope it all kicks off, not that I am involved or anything, just good to watch from a very safe distance south of the Border.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-07-2014 01:18AM

Magaggie wrote: »

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/willie-frazers-fury-over-gaa-shirt-in-eastenders-dismissed-as-absurd-and-inappropriate-30018460.html

"A GAA jersey glorifies the IRA" - bonkers doesn't even begin to come close.

And it wasn't even a GAA jersey, it was a school PE top. The clown saw O'Neills sportswear and immediately assumed it was GAA even though O'Neills also manufacturer sporting kits for a number of soccer, Rugby Union and League teams from across the world, even including British sides like Harlequins, shock horror. :eek:

Mal-Adjusted · 10-07-2014 01:35AM

Magaggie wrote: »

The Britain First Facebook page gives a good insight into these mouth-breathers' attitudes. Difficult to read though. Someone linked me to it, had a look, and just clicked out. Some things are just not worth the frustration.

I had a look through their page. it's mostly just nonsensical rants at a scattershot of targets. you'd have to feel sorry for these people. they seem to have nothing in their lives but hatred.

Carson10 · 10-07-2014 12:38PM

Is it safe to go up north and watch an orange parade? Like a tourist attraction? Only live minutes from Enniskillen and always wanted to see one.

old hippy · 10-07-2014 12:51PM

Carson10 wrote: »

Is it safe to go up north and watch an orange parade? Like a tourist attraction? Only live minutes from Enniskillen and always wanted to see one.

The majority of parades pass of without incident. Obviously, Garavaghy Rd and other flashpoints are to be avoided.

I saw one in Chester, of all places many years back. They had the Dublin & Wicklow lodge taking part

neamhspleachi · 10-07-2014 01:00PM

Carson10 wrote: »

Is it safe to go up north and watch an orange parade? Like a tourist attraction? Only live minutes from Enniskillen and always wanted to see one.

You could always head up to the Rossnowlagh Orange Order parade in Donegal

mfceiling · 10-07-2014 08:13PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Gimme a break. The Orange Order and the people you mentioned are one and the same. 14-50 year old scumbags who wear sashes during the parade and tracksuits at night.

Do you know many orangemen? I do...i lived in the north for 24 years and lived in a mixed area in the country.

The 2 elderly brothers who are orangemen but drink in a mainly catholic pub every saturday night for as long as i can remember - they're scumbags?

My cousin is married to an man who is in the orange order - a quiet man who has raised tens of thousands for autism and who is in a business partnership with a catholic - scumbag?

The farmer who is in the orange order, but will be found every year helping his catholic farming neighbour's cut their silage - scumbag?

Yes there will be scumbags in the orange order who will delight in the riots in july. However, 95% will march on the 12th, then either go on holidays or go to back to work and normality next monday.

Just be careful the truth doesn't hit you on the way home there...:rolleyes:

Fuhrer · 10-07-2014 08:25PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Do you know many orangemen? I do...i lived in the north for 24 years and lived in a mixed area in the country.

The 2 elderly brothers who are orangemen but drink in a mainly catholic pub every saturday night for as long as i can remember - they're scumbags?

My cousin is married to an man who is in the orange order - a quiet man who has raised tens of thousands for autism and who is in a business partnership with a catholic - scumbag?

The farmer who is in the orange order, but will be found every year helping his catholic farming neighbour's cut their silage - scumbag?

Yes there will be scumbags in the orange order who will delight in the riots in july. However, 95% will march on the 12th, then either go on holidays or go to back to work and normality next monday.

Just be careful the truth doesn't hit you on the way home there...:rolleyes:

Im sure all of those people exist exactly as you describe them

mfceiling · 10-07-2014 09:10PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Im sure all of those people exist exactly as you describe them

The 2 brothers live about 400 yards from my father.

I know my cousin's husband fairly well - gave him a hand put down foundations for a garage about a month ago.

The last farmer i know very well, as i spent most of my days as a young fellow working on his farm with his 2 sons.

Is that ok for you?

Do you have a sneaky hope that the Orange Order will riot at the weekend.

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