Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

The_Kew_Tour · 05-07-2014 07:10PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Where did you hear this? Are United in the running??

I got links of 2 Italian lads about it from Italy, saying we were one of the teams in with chance. Caught on to few United lads on twitter.

05-07-2014 07:13PM

Fellaini has good speed and power for his size, good control and a good eye for short passing. Why then for United and now seemingly Belgium does he seem so static and out of sync with what his teammates are doing? I don't think he's a player you can quite tame would be my guess. When he has to be positionally aware he winds up being ultra conservative and not being able to assert himself on the game. He also seemingly instinctively leads with his elbows and given he's a lot taller than most players will clash with them a lot. He probably wants to avoid doing that as much now as it got him in a lot of card trouble before.

I still think he can be good for United if LVG lets him be the big nuisance dirty Van Bommel type player though. Let him loose to chase everything and he'd do a job imo. Though I still think Phil Jones is the man for the deep midfielder or 3rd defender role in the future so what do I know?

HaveASnickers · 05-07-2014 07:18PM

I'd rather Fellaini over Cleverley. At least Fellaini showed for the ball for us this season and had a presence. Cleverley is the optimum responsibility transference guy. Passes the ball to a lad that has no chance of retaining the ball, but it's ok...Cleverley made an accurate pass and didn't lose the ball...it was the other guy!

MD1990 · 05-07-2014 07:25PM

Liam O wrote: »

Fellaini has good speed and power for his size, good control and a good eye for short passing. Why then for United and now seemingly Belgium does he seem so static and out of sync with what his teammates are doing? I don't think he's a player you can quite tame would be my guess. When he has to be positionally aware he winds up being ultra conservative and not being able to assert himself on the game. He also seemingly instinctively leads with his elbows and given he's a lot taller than most players will clash with them a lot. He probably wants to avoid doing that as much now as it got him in a lot of card trouble before.

I still think he can be good for United if LVG lets him be the big nuisance dirty Van Bommel type player though. Let him loose to chase everything and he'd do a job imo. Though I still think Phil Jones is the man for the deep midfielder or 3rd defender role in the future so what do I know?

Fellaini is as slow as a snail. Joke of a footballer imo.

Montroseee · 05-07-2014 07:28PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Fellaini is as slow as a snail. Joke of a footballer imo.

These type of statements make you look completely stupid. He had a bad season, as did a lot of the squad. Fellaini is a very good player, stood out at Everton and hasn't been near as bad as some people like to make out in the WC. He isn't being picked in that squad for no reason.

05-07-2014 07:30PM

I wish people would give Fellaini a second season at United before they judge/condemn him. You'd swear he was one of the only players to have a bad season at Man Utd last year..

rockal · 05-07-2014 07:31PM

HaveASnickers wrote: »

I'd rather Fellaini over Cleverley. At least Fellaini showed for the ball for us this season and had a presence. Cleverley is the optimum responsibility transference guy. Passes the ball to a lad that has no chance of retaining the ball, but it's ok...Cleverley made an accurate pass and didn't lose the ball...it was the other guy!

Exactly my opinion of Carrick

The_Kew_Tour · 05-07-2014 07:34PM

Cleverly, Welbeck, Young and especially Fellaini deserve at least 1 more season.

If they cant do it this season though then they can get the fcuk out

Headshot · 05-07-2014 07:37PM

Sacramento wrote: »

I wish people would give Fellaini a second season at United before they judge/condemn him. You'd swear he was one of the only players to have a bad season at Man Utd last year..

Alot of people including myself said on day one he wasnt good enough for utd.

Copper_pipe · 05-07-2014 07:39PM

45 million pounds + Nani
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2014/07/05/4937532/vidal-would-cost-45m-plus-nani-manchester-united-told

Go on Mr Woodward! Make it happen

05-07-2014 07:42PM

Headshot wrote: »

Alot of people including myself said on day one he wasnt good enough for utd.

Well we'll see this season I'm sure. As Kew says, he deserves another season to prove himself.

Headshot · 05-07-2014 07:45PM

Sacramento wrote: »

Well we'll see this season I'm sure. As Kew says, he deserves another season to prove himself.

But what does he have to prove? I dont get that argument. He shouldnt of been at the club in the first place and shows last season and this WC how technical inept he is. He was a rushed buy from an awful manager. We need a DM that can pass and have a bit of pace, we dont need a hacker or someone to lump balls up too.

redbaron_99 · 05-07-2014 07:55PM

Sell him now and we'll get very little for him. He's a better player than he has showed in the last year.
Better to give him another season, working with van gaal. If he fails, sell him next summer.

KH25 · 05-07-2014 07:57PM

Headshot wrote: »

But what does he have to prove? I dont get that argument. He shouldnt of been at the club in the first place and shows last season and this WC how technical inept he is. He was a rushed buy from an awful manager. We need a DM that can pass and have a bit of pace, we dont need a hacker or someone to lump balls up too.

I agree. As I said earlier he showed his best form at Everton up front. We aren't a hoofball team. His first touch is very poor and he puts in stupid tackles and elbows. I had hoped that Moyes could get more out of him considering how he had worked with him before but he couldnt. We've now seen 2 managers who couldn't get him to perform well enough to merit playing for United.

SeanJ09 · 05-07-2014 08:08PM

It seems that Juve are seriously keen on Luis Nani, and have been for quite some time now. F*** knows why! :pac:

ElChe32 · 05-07-2014 08:11PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

It seems that Juve are seriously keen on Luis Nani, and have been for quite some time now. F*** knows why! :pac:

I heard that Antonio Conte is a huge Michael Jackson fan and collects everything resembling the former king of pop.

Chancer3001 · 05-07-2014 08:28PM

Need an injury free Hargreaves

Hococop · 05-07-2014 08:35PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

I heard that Antonio Conte is a huge Michael Jackson fan and collects everything resembling the former king of pop.

Now that's a "bad" joke........... Ok I'll leave

Ulysses Gaze · 05-07-2014 08:38PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

It seems that Juve are seriously keen on Luis Nani, and have been for quite some time now. F*** knows why! :pac:

I keep wondering why.

They already had a talented but wildly inconsistent winger a few years back in Milos Krasic.

Don't know why they'd want to buy another.

MagicIRL · 05-07-2014 08:38PM

Hococop wrote: »

Now that's a "bad" joke........... Ok I'll leave

You've ruined a very good thing.

Hococop · 05-07-2014 08:39PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

You've ruined a very good thing.

I know and I apologise

Al Capwned · 05-07-2014 08:40PM

Hococop wrote: »

Now that's a "bad" joke........... Ok I'll leave

Ah dont be so hard on yourself, what you might call a bad joke, others might find hilarious.

It's not Black or White......

tupac_healy · 05-07-2014 08:50PM

Al Capwned wrote: »

Ah dont be so hard on yourself, what you might call a bad joke, others might find hilarious.

It's not Black or White......

And you don't wanna be startin somethin

Larry Wildman · 05-07-2014 08:50PM

IrishIrish wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of him at all, I just think the criticism of him is ridiculous at times. People looking for reasons non stop to give out about him.

I genuinely believe that Fellaini is pound for pound the worst player I have ever seen.

That is not hyperbole. We're talking about a £28m player.

He looks like some fella who has been plucked from the local pub and stuck into the Manchester United team.

He really is that bad.

SeanJ09 · 05-07-2014 08:51PM

Has Vidal indicated that he wants to leave Juve at all then? Speaking of Juve, they have probably the best midfield three partnership in Europe at the moment: Pogba, Vidal and Pirlo. Surprised they haven't made much of an impact in the CL.

05-07-2014 08:53PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

I keep wondering why.

They already had a talented but wildly inconsistent winger a few years back in Milos Krasic.

Don't know why they'd want to buy another.

Nani and Krasic are as different of players as you can get in that position. It's like comparing Nani to Valencia, very different.

05-07-2014 08:53PM

Headshot wrote: »

But what does he have to prove? I dont get that argument. He shouldnt of been at the club in the first place and shows last season and this WC how technical inept he is. He was a rushed buy from an awful manager. We need a DM that can pass and have a bit of pace, we dont need a hacker or someone to lump balls up too.

Well he has to prove he can cut it at Untied. Prove he had more about him then what we saw last season.
I don't think it's fair to call Moyes an awful manager, it didn't work out for him but I definitely don't think he's awful. He has a track record of buying very good players.

I think Fellaini could play the DM role effectively, you don't need to be able to play amazing long balls to play it well. I think he has it in him. Just my opinion. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.

Quandary · 05-07-2014 08:54PM

SeanJ09 wrote: »

It seems that Juve are seriously keen on Luis Nani, and have been for quite some time now. F*** knows why! :pac:

Maybe they intend to play him consistently on the right wing and give him more than 2 games in a row to find his form. That way he could be a brilliant signing for them.

If on the other hand they fcuk him in at left wing and drop him after a bad couple of games then he will be a terrible signing.

05-07-2014 08:56PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I genuinely believe that Fellaini is pound for pound the worst player I have ever seen.

That is not hyperbole.

Actually, that's the very definition of hyperbole perfectly demonstrated.

adox · 05-07-2014 08:57PM

"Sell them all"

Superthread mantra.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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