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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

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  • #3782
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,868 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    As much chance of me signing for Liverpool as James Rodriguez.


  • #3783
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    El Shaarawy would be a great signing. Had injury problems last season but a superb talent.


  • #3784
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    MD1990 wrote: »
    El Shaarawy would be a great signing. Had injury problems last season but a superb talent.

    I'd feel like that would be a speculative sort of buy - not something to stake the season on or anything.


  • #3785
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    That figure is more acceptable, but we should still be getting more
    You would be unhappy with £75 million based on what? Gareth Bale costing more or what logic exactly?

    Bale signed for Real a few months short of his 24th birthday. Ronaldo had just turned 24 when he signed for them.

    Suarez is getting closer to 28. He has, to be kind, disciplinary issues. To be unkind, he has a propensity to be randomly lunatic.

    If Bale and Ronaldo end up costing more it's because a) they were younger at time of sale b) had more peak years ahead of them and c) didn't display a tendency to inexplicably act like a wild animal.

    Imo people sniffing at £75m need their heads checked. Suarez probably has (max) 6 peak years ahead of him bringing him up to 33. That's if he manages to sort out his issues, adapt to Spanish football and stay injury-free. At Ajax and Liverpool, Suarez has been the main man. A lot of the play goes through or to him. At Barca he'll face a situation where a lot of the play will go through Messi and Neymar. He might (genuinely) have to play 2nd fiddle to the above named and may struggle in his first season to justify that price tag.

    To get £75m for a player of his age and overall profile is perfectly fair. To argue it undervalues him is ridiculous in the extreme.


  • #3786
    tok9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    How we managed to get him for £22.8m in the first place still baffles me.. He scored what, 50 goals in the Eredivisie the season before we bought him? Along with being one of the best players in the 2010 World Cup? That was some piece of business tbf.

    Ah... I think part of it was due to a bite. That Suarez is quite consistent. :P


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  • #3787
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Gbear wrote: »
    Leaving aside Griezmann and Sanchez, who're the realistic alternatives for players who can get goals?

    I can get on the Rodriguez bandwagon but he's not coming here, and it'd shove Sterling out wide and Coutinho on to the bench.

    We're better off buying the big name as the tip of the spear than the haft (although I wouldn't say no to Steven Gerrard Mk.2 - whoever that happens to be).

    I'll just go through a few World Cup squads and see who'd be considered a decent striker and that we've some chance of getting...

    Balotelli - No thanks.
    Immobile - Gone to Dortmund.
    Pedro - Wouldn't say no.
    Benzema - Yes please.
    Remy - Yes.
    Mario Gomez - Hard to know how he'd do...
    Cavani - Not gonna leave PSG.
    Shaqiri - Yes!!!!
    Jackson Martinez - Tbh I know nothing about him besides his reputation.
    Abel Hernandez - Same as above
    Higuain - I'd take him.
    Lukaku - YES YES YES!!

    Is that it? Some severe shortage of decent strikers out there. Any "big" strikers outside World Cup squads? Besides Ibra obviously.

    EDIT: I know some are wingers :p


  • #3788
    Tannywanny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Tannywanny


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    You would be unhappy with £75 million based on what? Gareth Bale costing more or what logic exactly?

    Bale signed for Real a few months short of his 24th birthday. Ronaldo had just turned 24 when he signed for them.

    Suarez is getting closer to 28. He has, to be kind, disciplinary issues. To be unkind, he has a propensity to be randomly lunatic.

    If Bale and Ronaldo end up costing more it's because a) they were younger at time of sale b) had more peak years ahead of them and c) didn't display a tendency to inexplicably act like a wild animal.

    Imo people sniffing at £75m need their heads checked. Suarez probably has (max) 6 peak years ahead of him bringing him up to 33. That's if he manages to sort out his issues, adapt to Spanish football and stay injury-free. At Ajax and Liverpool, Suarez has been the main man. A lot of the play goes through or to him. At Barca he'll face a situation where a lot of the play will go through Messi and Neymar. He might (genuinely) have to play 2nd fiddle to the above named and may struggle in his first season to justify that price tag.

    To get £75m for a player of his age and overall profile is perfectly fair. To argue it undervalues him is ridiculous in the extreme.

    Good points. As a Liverpool fan I am not too worried if he goes anymore. He has been great for us when he stayed clear of trouble. Seem to be rebuilding the right way with new signings.


  • #3789
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    MD1990 wrote: »
    El Shaarawy would be a great signing. Had injury problems last season but a superb talent.

    Great shout that.


  • #3790
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Would you guys take a chance on Luis Muriel or Carlos Bacca? Similar playing styles to Suarez


  • #3791
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    MD1990 wrote: »
    El Shaarawy would be a great signing. Had injury problems last season but a superb talent.

    He'd win the battle of who has the best hair :) That's for sure :pac:


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  • #3792
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    I'll just go through a few World Cup squads and see who'd be considered a decent striker and that we've some chance of getting...

    Is that it? Some severe shortage of decent strikers out there. Any "big" strikers outside World Cup squads? Besides Ibra obviously.

    EDIT: I know some are wingers :p

    Fellaini did pretty well when put up top against Algeria. Maybe we could go for him.


  • #3793
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    That figure is more acceptable, but we should still be getting more

    The echo are saying that's his release clause, so we won't get any more than that


  • #3794
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Would you guys take a chance on Luis Muriel or Carlos Bacca? Similar playing styles to Suarez

    If Muriel's as good in real life as he is in FIFA he's definitely worth a go :pac:


  • #3795
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Washington Irving wrote: »
    Fellaini did pretty well when put up top against Algeria. Maybe we could go for him.

    I don't know if this is sarcastic.... :rolleyes: :p I didn't exactly get a positive reaction when I suggested buying him a few hours ago :o


  • #3796
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Washington Irving wrote: »
    Fellaini did pretty well when put up top against Algeria. Maybe we could go for him.

    I think the last time a Player transferred between Liverpool and Man U was in the 50's. Can't see it Happening again.

    I uses to quite like Fellaini at Everton though.


  • #3797
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,868 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    You would be unhappy with £75 million based on what? Gareth Bale costing more or what logic exactly?

    Bale signed for Real a few months short of his 24th birthday. Ronaldo had just turned 24 when he signed for them.

    Suarez is getting closer to 28. He has, to be kind, disciplinary issues. To be unkind, he has a propensity to be randomly lunatic.

    If Bale and Ronaldo end up costing more it's because a) they were younger at time of sale b) had more peak years ahead of them and c) didn't display a tendency to inexplicably act like a wild animal.

    Imo people sniffing at £75m need their heads checked. Suarez probably has (max) 6 peak years ahead of him bringing him up to 33. That's if he manages to sort out his issues, adapt to Spanish football and stay injury-free. At Ajax and Liverpool, Suarez has been the main man. A lot of the play goes through or to him. At Barca he'll face a situation where a lot of the play will go through Messi and Neymar. He might (genuinely) have to play 2nd fiddle to the above named and may struggle in his first season to justify that price tag.

    To get £75m for a player of his age and overall profile is perfectly fair. To argue it undervalues him is ridiculous in the extreme.

    The weird thing is that he is worth more than that to us, but less than that to Barca because of your points above. He may not improve them but it will weaken us, although the whole out til Nov thing is somewhat of a weakener itself of course.


  • #3798
    bitemeluis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    Jesus H Christ - really glad some of you guys have no input on the spending of Luis money - Fellani? Lukaku? - no doubt this is from the same crew that think Borini and Aspas are class players :pac::pac::pac:


  • #3799
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    No one's going to like this but...


    I think Fellaini is worth a shot.



    How much would we have to pay for you to take him?


  • #3800
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    bitemeluis wrote: »
    Jesus H Christ - really glad some of you guys have no input on the spending of Luis money - Fellani? Lukaku? - no doubt this is from the same crew that think Borini and Aspas are class players :pac::pac::pac:

    How about Adabeyor? Could be a good quick fix for a season or two.


  • #3801
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    I still think we'll go for a hybrid forward instead of an out and out striker, one that can play out wide or down the middle quite comfortably.

    Sanchez is the outstanding first choice, obviously. Griezmann can play centrally if needed, seen him play there for Sociedad in the CL. El Shaarawy can play anywhere along the front line. Likewise Volland and Firmino at Hoffenheim spring to mind from the Bundesliga.


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  • #3802
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    How much would we have to pay for you to take him?

    A cool 48.2 million.

    I seriously reckon he'll be quality again when he gets a new club. :p


  • #3803
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    bitemeluis wrote: »
    Jesus H Christ - really glad some of you guys have no input on the spending of Luis money - Fellani? Lukaku? - no doubt this is from the same crew that think Borini and Aspas are class players :pac::pac::pac:

    What's wrong with Lukaku? :confused:


  • #3804
    bitemeluis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    How about Adabeyor? Could be a good quick fix for a season or two.

    BR has built a team to play football - there wont be any hoofing the ball into the box - Adeboyer, Fellani, Lukaku arent the type of players that will fit - Lambert will get lots of splinters this year and is plan B, hoof and hope if all else fails

    If sanchez goes to Arsenal then fcuk it - I would throw Origi in at the deep end and see how he swims - its a big risk but there arent many goalscorers out there who can play football


  • #3805
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    People scoff at players like Benteke, Bony, Lukaku and Ba, but they're the kind of players the likes of Chelsea pick up as squad players who usually do the business when called upon.

    In don't get the "Jaaaayysssus no" like they're Bentner or something.


  • #3806
    bitemeluis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    What's wrong with Lukaku? :confused:

    Etoo and Torres couldnt buy a goal - Chelsea sign Costa and still loan him out - speaks volumes


  • #3807
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    Augmerson wrote: »
    I think the last time a Player transferred between Liverpool and Man U was in the 50's. Can't see it Happening again.

    I uses to quite like Fellaini at Everton though.

    I'm not sure whether you're just going along with it or you think I was being serious, so I'll just take this opportunity to state I really really think we should go for Fellaini.









    I don't know what's going on anymore.


  • #3808
    Hollister11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Lads suarez has 4 years left on his contract. Why can't we do what Dortmund did with lewandoski. Let him run out the contract and then go on a free.
    He is an unbelievable player and I would rather get 4 more years service and £0.
    We could win 2 league titles in that time with him.


  • #3809
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    bitemeluis wrote: »
    Etoo and Torres couldnt buy a goal - Chelsea sign Costa and still loan him out - speaks volumes

    Scored 15 goals in 31 games with Everton last year aged 21 - speaks volumes.


    Mourinho's just decided he doesn't like him for whatever reason, I think he's a decent player.


  • #3810
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Hollister11 wrote: »
    Lads suarez has 4 years left on his contract. Why can't we do what Dortmund did with lewandoski. Let him run out the contract and then go on a free.
    He is an unbelievable player and I would rather get 4 more years service and £0.
    We could win 2 league titles in that time with him.


    It just doesn't work like that. Players have the power now.


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  • #3811
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Liverpool should sign Gary Medel asap.

    On top of him being a useful and probably very cheap addition to the squad, his arrival would entice his buddy to live in Liverpool as opposed to London or anywhere else. :)


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