Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

Pro. F · 04-07-2014 01:39PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

For a 'world class' player who sees himself as a driving force... his control is poor, his short/creative passing is poor. His attitude to fitness has been generally questionable over the years, this past summer was the first one I can remember him turning up to United looking in decent shape.

I feel he is half the player he should have been. Partly the fault of United/Fergie, partly his fault too.

Rooney's control and passing are better than RVP's and he scores just as many goals when he's the main striker. He also does more work than RVP on the pitch. So if Rooney isn't good enough to satisfy you, you must be raging with van Persie.

bangkok · 04-07-2014 01:44PM

lots of short memories here lads, slagging off rio and vidic? Without question the best centre half pairing in the premier league era and probably Europe.

vidic is 32 and his best days are behind him, rio is 35 also best days behind him, but both absolute legends of the club. Vidic wanted to try a new league before he retired and even though clubs wanted him in England he never wanted to play for another English club. Fair play to him, moved to inter and they will have a good player on their hands. Rio the same, over 10 years service and one of the finest centre halfs ever to play for utd

bucketybuck · 04-07-2014 01:45PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

I will defend Vidic to the last but you can't say he handled it as well as expected. He took pictures in a Milan jersey while still captain of United.

I would love to see these pictures of Vidic wearing a Milan jersey at the time he signed the contract?

kstand · 04-07-2014 01:48PM

Vidic and Ferdinand owe the club nothing.

beakerjoe · 04-07-2014 01:51PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

I will defend Vidic to the last but you can't say he handled it as well as expected. He took pictures in a Milan jersey while still captain of United.

That never happened did it?

bullvine · 04-07-2014 01:53PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

That never happened did it?

Correct!

bangkok · 04-07-2014 01:53PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

I will defend Vidic to the last but you can't say he handled it as well as expected. He took pictures in a Milan jersey while still captain of United.

that never happened

adox · 04-07-2014 01:53PM

Whether they owe the club anything or not, Rio acted very childishly on twitter regarding Moyes and indeed very unprofessionally.

Maximus Alexander · 04-07-2014 01:56PM

So what do we reckon lads, was this the worst United home shirt of the last two decades or so?

MagicIRL · 04-07-2014 01:57PM

Are the pre-season games being shown on MUTV?

bangkok · 04-07-2014 01:58PM

adox wrote: »

Whether they owe the club anything or not, Rio acted very childishly on twitter regarding Moyes and indeed very unprofessionally.

and giggs is a role model

Vic Vinegar · 04-07-2014 01:58PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Are the pre-season games being shown on MUTV?

Yep, it's launching a HD version of the channel in time for the tour too.

MagicIRL · 04-07-2014 01:59PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Yep, it's launching a HD version of the channel in time for the tour too.

Excellent. Better re-sub then! Any idea what date the first match is?

adox · 04-07-2014 01:59PM

bangkok wrote: »

and giggs is a role model

I know you are probably only messing but just in case, I cant remember Giggs ever acting unprofessionally towards the club.:)

Vic Vinegar · 04-07-2014 02:02PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Excellent. Better re-sub then! Any idea what date the first match is?

L.A Galaxy - 23rd July
A.S Roma - 26th July
Inter Milan - 29th July
Real Madrid - 2nd August

aperture_nuig · 04-07-2014 02:03PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

So what do we reckon lads, was this the worst United home shirt of the last two decades or so?

That's one of my favourites! :P

bucketybuck · 04-07-2014 02:06PM

adox wrote: »

Whether they owe the club anything or not, Rio acted very childishly on twitter regarding Moyes and indeed very unprofessionally.

I personally couldn't give a toss about Twitter or what anybody says on that useless thing.

Vic Vinegar · 04-07-2014 02:10PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I personally couldn't give a toss about Twitter or what anybody says on that useless thing.

Bit harsh on Rio.

adox · 04-07-2014 02:15PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I personally couldn't give a toss about Twitter or what anybody says on that useless thing.

Hardly relevant is it? The point is the public utterings he made about Moyes when he was on the verge of being sacked. The vehicle he used is irrelevant.

Lord TSC · 04-07-2014 02:15PM

And Mitten is claiming that when Moyes was sacked, Mancini approached the club and asked to replace him :eek:

TheDoc · 04-07-2014 02:17PM

Pro. F wrote: »

Rooney's control and passing are better than RVP's and he scores just as many goals when he's the main striker. He also does more work than RVP on the pitch. So if Rooney isn't good enough to satisfy you, you must be raging with van Persie.

I think when Rooney is in his bad spells, his control goes all over the place, its like throwing a tennis ball against a wall, it just fires back.

Since RVP's arrival I've been pretty much mesmerized by his control, something I never noticed at Arsenal. The ball just sticks to him, and he seems to be one of the best in terms of taking the ball into himself while under pressure.

I'd probably rate RVP's control higher then Rooney's.

MagicIRL · 04-07-2014 02:19PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

And Mitten is claiming that when Moyes was sacked, Mancini approached the club and asked to replace him :eek:

RobertKK · 04-07-2014 02:20PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

L.A Galaxy - 23rd July
A.S Roma - 26th July
Inter Milan - 29th July
Real Madrid - 2nd August

..and a 5th match on August 4th - a final if we top the group.

Anyone have match times. I expect these matches involve a lot of sleep disturbance.

Will I Amnt · 04-07-2014 02:22PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I think when Rooney is in his bad spells, his control goes all over the place, its like throwing a tennis ball against a wall, it just fires back.

Since RVP's arrival I've been pretty much mesmerized by his control, something I never noticed at Arsenal. The ball just sticks to him, and he seems to be one of the best in terms of taking the ball into himself while under pressure.

I'd probably rate RVP's control higher then Rooney's.

RvP's control is streets ahead of Rooney's IMO.

bangkok · 04-07-2014 02:24PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

RvP's control is streets ahead of Rooney's IMO.

would have to agree, and its a non contest imo... rvp has a delicate touch ball sticks to his foot, how many times have you seen the ball bounce off rooneys shin etc

keane2097 · 04-07-2014 02:29PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

RvP's control is streets ahead of Rooney's IMO.

It was the passing statement that raised my eyebrows more, but agree I would have RVP comfortably ahead of Rooney at both.

Pro. F · 04-07-2014 02:36PM

It's funny how quickly you all forget RVP's poor play and Rooney's good play.

keane2097 · 04-07-2014 02:41PM

Pro. F wrote: »

It's funny how quickly you all forget RVP's poor play and Rooney's good play.

Well it's either amnesia or a differing opinion, probs amnesia I suppose.

bucketybuck · 04-07-2014 02:42PM

adox wrote: »

Hardly relevant is it? The point is the public utterings he made about Moyes when he was on the verge of being sacked. The vehicle he used is irrelevant.

Twitter updates are about as relevant as scratchings on the wall of a public loo. If you want to give credence to half formed vague utterings that hint at things without ever actually saying anything directly then more power to you, but when it comes to judging Rio Ferdinand I will stick to the important things.

keane2097 · 04-07-2014 02:44PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Twitter updates are about as relevant as scratchings on the wall of a public loo. If you want to give credence to half formed vague utterings that hint at things without ever actually saying anything directly then more power to you, but when it comes to judging Rio Ferdinand I will stick to the important things.

Cool that you've figured out twitter is silly without using it while the other 250 million of us toil away like morans. I wish I was as smrt as you.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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