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How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

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  • #1112
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    1 match
    Pro. F wrote: »
    I don't remember what you are talking about. But assuming I did say that some suggested punishment was too much, you really can't figure out the difference between that and the people who are trying to pretend that what he did wasn't as bad as a dive or a non-headbutt?

    Are you not guilty of downplaying the situation yourself by suggesting some of the punishment being banded around was too harsh.


  • #1113
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,885 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    RasTa wrote: »
    It's simple really.

    Racist punishment too harsh

    Biting #2 punishment too harsh

    Biting #3 punishment too harsh

    Biting #1 was fine as he didn't play for Liverpool so we don't care.

    Well compare his punishment for using racist language to John Terry's punishment for the same thing and you have your answer

    ******



  • #1114
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    1 match
    citytillidie wrote: »
    Well compare his punishment for using racist language to John Terry's punishment for the same thing and you have your answer

    Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra. Terry wasn't guilty of racial abuse so not the same thing.


  • #1115
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Zico wrote: »
    Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra. Terry wasn't guilty of racial abuse so not the same thing.

    Sure?


  • #1116
    Fescue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    Zico wrote: »
    Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra. Terry wasn't guilty of racial abuse so not the same thing.

    What was he guilty of?


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  • #1117
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    1 match
    Zico wrote: »
    Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra. Terry wasn't guilty of racial abuse so not the same thing.

    Why did terry get banned so.


  • #1118
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,885 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Zico wrote: »
    Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra. Terry wasn't guilty of racial abuse so not the same thing.

    From BBC

    Chelsea captain John Terry has been banned for four matches and fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.

    ******



  • #1119
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    1 match
    citytillidie wrote: »
    From BBC

    Chelsea captain John Terry has been banned for four matches and fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.

    It must be a conspiracy against Liverpool FC then.

    My sympathies.


  • #1120
    Fescue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    Zico wrote: »
    It must be a conspiracy against Liverpool FC then.

    My sympathies.

    I'd be interested to know what you think Terry did get banned for? For the laugh like?


  • #1121
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    1 match
    Fescue wrote: »
    I'd be interested to know what you think Terry did get banned for? For the laugh like?

    I wasn't following the case, for some reason I thought he got off. I don't recall any Chelsea fans making a fuss about it so it just went under the radar I suppose.

    There's a lesson for you.:)


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  • #1122
    Fescue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    Zico wrote: »
    I wasn't following the case, for some reason I thought he got off. I don't recall any Chelsea fans making a fuss about it so it just went under the radar I suppose.

    There's a lesson for you.:)

    While I'm not defending Suarez for the incident with Evra. It was racial abuse unquestionably in my book. He got his punishment, which on reflection was fair. There was some confusion over the word negrito etc.

    John Terry was clearly seen on tv telling Anton Ferdinand to "**** off you black c*nt"!


  • #1123
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • #1124
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Who said he was being framed.

    he said it himself
    “After the impact... I lost my balance, making my body unstable and falling on top of my opponent. At that moment I hit my face against the player leaving a small bruise on my cheek and a strong pain in my teeth. In no way it happened how you have described, as a bite or intent to bite,"


  • #1125
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    7 matches
    Zico wrote: »
    I wasn't following the case, for some reason I thought he got off. I don't recall any Chelsea fans making a fuss about it so it just went under the radar I suppose.

    There's a lesson for you.:)

    Commending Chelsea fans for brushing that one under the carpet (not suggesting they did) was a decent move from the corner you were backed into there, haha.

    I can imagine of choir of Chelsea fans responding with "Eh.. thanks...I... think?"


  • #1126
    [Deleted User]
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    Phoenix wrote: »
    Wasnt John Terry found not guilty in a court of law

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9398132/John-Terry-found-not-guilty-of-racism-the-verdict-in-full.html
    Really dont know what Terry has to do with Suarez biting yet another person in a soccer match but anyhoo...

    Suarez probably would have been too(racism).

    Big difference in a court of law and the FA panel


  • #1127
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    This thread's a bit of a car crash tbh.


  • #1128
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    8 matches
    Fescue wrote: »
    While I'm not defending Suarez for the incident with Evra. It was racial abuse unquestionably in my book. He got his punishment, which on reflection was fair. There was some confusion over the word negrito etc.

    John Terry was clearly seen on tv telling Anton Ferdinand to "**** off you black c*nt"!

    Yeah, the fact it wasn't said at all and people took it upon themselves to use that word because it didn't look as bad.


  • #1129
    Sideshow Mark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Sideshow Mark


    Can't believe you're still arguing the toss over this (and missing a great game in the process.) If it was a player from South Korea who played for a club you'd never heard of, you'd all be making jokes about it and the thread discussing it would have run out of steam already. Thread should be locked, and posters should retreat back to their team threads.


  • #1130
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Sideshow Mark wrote: »
    Can't believe you're still arguing the toss over this (and missing a great game in the process.) If it was a player from South Korea who played for a club you'd never heard of, you'd all be making jokes about it and the thread discussing it would have run out of steam already. Thread should be locked, and posters should retreat back to their team threads.

    Ah but that would mean missing a crucial opportunity for posters to climb the sacred moral high ground and deride that monster Suarez for all his wicked ways.


  • #1131
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    5 matches
    niallo27 wrote: »
    Are you not guilty of downplaying the situation yourself by suggesting some of the punishment being banded around was too harsh.

    Don't pretend that you can't see the difference between me arguing against what I think are excessive punishments and arguing against those who want to understate or distract from how bad what Suarez did was.


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  • #1132
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Pro. F wrote: »
    You lost by one goal to Southampton and drew with Swansea, so to say you think that one of the best strikers in the world wouldn't have made any difference is ridiculous. You can work out yourself how much use 4 extra points would have been in such a close title race.

    Hard to know, it wasn't a bad start. Liverpool actually have a better record without him, a small sample but an ever increasing one!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1133
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    3 matches
    rarnes1 wrote: »
    More generalisation made up lies. Gets better!!

    oh so you weren't saying the racism, this and ivanovic bite was Ott then?


  • #1134
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,728 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I dont think Suarez is a bad chap

    I think some of the bans were ott, but you cant defend him when he keeps doing it.

    As a person I reckon he is decent guy, but somebody needs to look into what triggers this behavior.

    Only so much sympathy you can give a guy. he has used up his lives by now.

    EVENFLOW



  • #1135
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    12 month global ban
    My wife just ask me a simple question and I don't know the answer ?

    If the Ref had seen the incident and send him off (straight red and three match ban) would that have been the end of the matter ?

    Anyone?


  • #1136
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    I dont think Suarez is a bad chap

    I think some of the bans were ott, but you cant defend him when he keeps doing it.

    As a person I reckon he is decent guy, but somebody needs to look into what triggers this behavior.

    Only so much sympathy you can give a guy. he has used up his lives by now.

    Before he moved to Liverpool I was a fan of him. Only seen him about 10 times but he always caught the eye. Joined Torres, Aguero, Silva and Mata as some of my favourite players who moved to rivals. Always thought he was a lot better in his first couple of seasons at Pool than people gave him credit for. But the difference is I still like Aguero, still like Torres etc. Suarez has behaved worse than any player in premier league history imo and it's already tarnished what could have been one hell of a legacy. It's not going to get better with people excusing him and mollycoddling him.


  • #1137
    Pyjamarama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    You think Suarez has behaved worse than Joey Barton?!?


  • #1138
    egghead.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭egghead.


    Just watching Uruguay now and it's a shame Suarez isn't there to help them.

    He really has let a lot of people down with his stupidity.


  • #1139
    Irlandczyk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    10 matches
    egghead. wrote: »
    Just watching Uruguay now and it's a shame Suarez isn't there to help them.

    He really has let a lot of people down with his stupidity.

    While this is very true, I'd take the likes of James Rodriguez; a player who can finish as sublimely as that, and in Colombia's previous game, while not letting his club and country down constantly with stupid, needless controversy; over Suarez any day.


  • #1140
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    That statement is delusional and is a result of the constant protection and excusing he has received from the clubs and managers he has played with and under, along with his fans.

    The statement shows no remorse and sure why should it? The man has never had to show it from his previous actions, why start now? He'll never change.


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  • #1141
    [Deleted User]
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    Pyjamarama wrote: »
    You think Suarez has behaved worse than Joey Barton?!?

    On the field, absolutely.


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