Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 11:30AM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Right then, enough of this Nani talk. Moyes for Galatasaray?

Eurosport.com EN ‏@EurosportCom_EN 7m

REALLY!? Our Turkish office reports that David Moyes is in Istanbul and could replace Roberto Mancini as Galatasaray manager.

Wish him all the best, didn't work out at United but he is a good man and will I'm sure be back to bite us on the backside sometime in the future as opposing manager.

Billy86 · 27-06-2014 11:34AM

irishfeen wrote: »

Wish him all the best, didn't work out at United but he is a good man and will I'm sure be back to bite us on the backside sometime in the future as opposing manager.

Given his record against top teams, I'm not so worried.

Spazdarn · 27-06-2014 11:34AM

bangkok wrote: »

Alex Ferguson?! He actually loved players to take risks, that's why he signed Nani Ronaldo etc

I kinda disagree on this point, he allowed Ronaldo to take risks because he saw the value in it, Nani was given the same privileges and was subsequently dropped when he didn't deliver, replaced by Valencia by both Ferguson and Moyes.

ElChe32 · 27-06-2014 11:36AM

"Manchester United are not back. But the fear that Manchester Untied may be on the way back is real. And delicious."

Saw that on Twitter...couldn't agree more.

TheDoc · 27-06-2014 11:37AM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I kinda disagree on this point, he allowed Ronaldo to take risks because he saw the value in it, Nani was given the same privileges and was subsequently dropped when he didn't deliver, replaced by Valencia by both Ferguson and Moyes.

Ronaldo was totally abject at defending. He was left up front for good reason, to be the axis for counter attacks and breaking. Either with the ball at his feet, or him running in support.

I always remember this because it told me all I needed to know about John Giles and his knowledge on modern football. He'd always given Ronaldo **** for not tracking abck, when it was so obvious he was being instructed to keep an advanced position for when we won the ball : /

bangkok · 27-06-2014 11:39AM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I kinda disagree on this point, he allowed Ronaldo to take risks because he saw the value in it, Nani was given the same privileges and was subsequently dropped when he didn't deliver, replaced by Valencia by both Ferguson and Moyes.

Nani played the best football of his career under ferguson and in 10/11 I think it was he was probably the best winger in the premier league, injuries then struck and he hasn't been the same since. Ferguson was probably the biggest risk taker there has ever been in football management and what made him so good. Just think of all those last 90th min winners under fergie. it wasn't luck that utd scored so many, it was fergies risk taking and drive that got us over the line

brinty · 27-06-2014 11:46AM

Is it just me or does Herrera remind anyone else of Paddy Jackson (ulster rugby player) without the ginger hair??

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 11:48AM

Billy86 wrote: »

Given his record against top teams, I'm not so worried.

Well he did beat us at Everton on the openening day of the season there the season before last.... Remember that 4-4 draw too...

Spazdarn · 27-06-2014 11:51AM

bangkok wrote: »

Nani played the best football of his career under ferguson and in 10/11 I think it was he was probably the best winger in the premier league, injuries then struck and he hasn't been the same since. Ferguson was probably the biggest risk taker there has ever been in football management and what made him so good. Just think of all those last 90th min winners under fergie. it wasn't luck that utd scored so many, it was fergies risk taking and drive that got us over the line

Agreed on his substitutions just feel like he chose to play far more conservatively in his last two seasons, but I suspect he wasn't as adventurous with his team selections as he didn't have the players he once had. We're far from having the team that consisted of Tevez, Ronaldo and Rooney demolishing teams on the counter.

How Soon Is Now · 27-06-2014 11:51AM

We were doing great lads signing players everyone was positive gifs flying all over the place!

Now where back to square one again.......

Oh Nani.....

redbaron_99 · 27-06-2014 11:56AM

Think we'll have to wait a couple of weeks before there are any more signings. Genuinely feel that our remaining targets are still involved in the WC.

Vidal, DeJong, Depay, Hummels, Vermaelen could be all on the list.

IrishIrish · 27-06-2014 12:05PM

Shaw confirmed on SSN

FutureGuy · 27-06-2014 12:08PM

IrishIrish wrote: »

Shaw confirmed on SSN

YUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kstand · 27-06-2014 12:09PM

Nearly time for a few more gifs!

Mitch Connor · 27-06-2014 12:10PM

bangkok wrote: »

Alex Ferguson?! He actually loved players to take risks, that's why he signed Nani Ronaldo etc

towards the end of his time he became more and more cautious in his approach to football in general, as the margin for error had become almost non-existent.

Look at the point tallies required to win titles in the 90's and early 00's, the amount of games you could afford to drop points in has decreased.

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 12:10PM

In work so can't see SSN - 4/5 year deal?

ElChe32 · 27-06-2014 12:10PM

Did someone say gifs?

NTMK · 27-06-2014 12:11PM

5 Year deal apparently

IrishIrish · 27-06-2014 12:11PM

irishfeen wrote: »

In work so can't see SSN - 4/5 year deal?

5 year deal excess in of 30m

advertsfox · 27-06-2014 12:13PM

kstand wrote: »

Nearly time for a few more gifs!

FutureGuy · 27-06-2014 12:13PM

I have no gifs

Blatter · 27-06-2014 12:14PM

Luke Shaw's twitter page...sly :pac:

Professional footballer at Manchester united Football Club. Views are my own, not those of @ManUtd

https://twitter.com/LukeShaw3

irishfeen · 27-06-2014 12:14PM

Haha he wasn't long changing his twitter account

xtal191 · 27-06-2014 12:15PM

Moar signings!!!!

Billy86 · 27-06-2014 12:15PM

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Lord TSC · 27-06-2014 12:15PM

lB and CM addressed in space of 24 hours.

Good work Woodward and LVG. We now lok so much stronger than we did last year at this time....

TheTownie · 27-06-2014 12:16PM

MagicIRL · 27-06-2014 12:16PM

MagicIRL, ITK.

BREAKING NEWS: Ed Woodward spotted securing Shaw deal.

newballsplease · 27-06-2014 12:19PM

If we dont sign anyone tomorrow Woodward Out !

RobertKK · 27-06-2014 12:19PM

When talking about Herrera on MUTV yesterday with some former players, one can't remember who said that United plan on bringing in about 6 players.

Herrera
Shaw
????
????
????
????

We can speculate, but a CB, a midfielder...2 wingers like a Robben and Depay to replace Nani and Young???
Sell Kagawa back to Dortmund as a sweetener for Hummels.
Vidal or Pogba.

The Guardian ran with this earlier this month:

Manchester United have been quoted £60m if they want to persevere with plans to bring Paul Pogba back to Old Trafford two years after his acrimonious departure on a free transfer.
The Observer can reveal that United are not only targeting Kevin Strootman from Roma but have made repeated attempts over the past year to explore whether Juventus would sell them the midfielder at a huge profit. Mino Raiola, the player’s agent, said this week that Pogba was happy in Turin but United’s information is that the France international is open to the idea.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/07/manchester-united-paul-pogba-juventus-transfer-60m-old-trafford-louis-van-gaal

I was reading how Juventus has seen their debt rise from over €150 million to over €180 million. If they were to sell both Vidal and Pogba they could buy two replacements and put a serious dent in the debt.

It is quite clear the overhaul of United is to win back the Premier League next season and not simply get back to top 4 and qualify for the CL.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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