How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

Demosthenese · 26-06-2014 10:53PM

6 month global ban

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

morals and empathy but you call ggigs as you spell his name scum??

i bet you are a priest too morals my arse

We get it, you LOVE Giggs ... superb footballer for all but the last 3-4 years of his career, but still a complete scumbag of a person. Can't be denied. The point is he is perceived as something he is not.

DARK-KNIGHT · 26-06-2014 10:56PM

on topic re saint suarez... if uruguay appeal and fail will the punishment be more severe???

Will I Amnt · 26-06-2014 10:56PM

8 matches

Good jaysus, how hard is it not to call someone a scumbag?

Demosthenese · 26-06-2014 10:59PM

6 month global ban

Royal Irish wrote: »

It really grinds my gears seeing people refer to Suarez as a genius.

Van Nistelrooy scored more league goals in a single season than Suarez ever did and I would never refer to him as a genius and I'm a United fan. He was a great finisher like Suarez.

I reserve the description of genius to the likes of Zidane and Messi in recent times.

Its not a matter of opinion. Its basic common sense lads.

Common sense? Take the blinkers off would ya. Suarez scores the type of goals that very few can. He does things on the ball that very few can and he is unplayable with his style when in full flow. RVN was an unbelievable finisher and unmatched in the box from 8 yards. But completely different players. Suarez in footballing terms is the epitome of a genius ... despite how badly you do not want him to be ... its basic footballing sense that you may learn some day.

DARK-KNIGHT · 26-06-2014 11:01PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Good jaysus, how hard is it not to call someone a scumbag?

keyboard warriors everywhere will.

so wrong calling someone you dont know a scumbag though

partyguinness · 26-06-2014 11:01PM

10 matches

It's time for bed children.....off now. School in the morning. Night night.

eagle eye · 26-06-2014 11:05PM

Suarez deserves every bit of the ban he got and I think its fair. Its not ott but its strong and harsh enough for him to learn that this behaviour will not be tolerated.

I can't believe that people are saying that the ban is wrong because it affects Liverpool. Its Luis Suarez that is hurting Liverpool with this ban not FIFA. He is responsible for his actions and the punishment for what he did.

Will I Amnt · 26-06-2014 11:08PM

8 matches

eagle eye wrote: »

Suarez deserves every bit of the ban he got and I think its fair. Its not ott but its strong and harsh enough for him to learn that this behaviour will not be tolerated.

I can't believe that people are saying that the ban is wrong because it affects Liverpool. Its Luis Suarez that is hurting Liverpool with this ban not FIFA. He is responsible for his actions and the punishment for what he did.

That's about the most sense I've seen in here in a long time.

Pro. F · 26-06-2014 11:11PM

5 matches

rarnes1 wrote: »

I said nobody was defending the incident as in the actual incident (the bite). How could anyone tbf. If anyone did they are certainly in the minority. The diving is worse than biting example is ridiculous, I'm shocked you even mentioned that!

I'm surprised at you getting upset about people with extreme views on here, that's the nature of this place, rightly or wrongly.

No worries.

I'm not getting upset by those mad posts, there good for a laugh and make the thread more entertaining really. I just disagree with your assertion that nobody is defending what Suarez did. Those mad posts trying to downplay how bad it was would qualify as defending it for me.

Lennonist · 26-06-2014 11:19PM

Banning Suarez does nothing with regards stopping him from doing this again. He needs professional help and a proper diagnosis of whatever condition he may have. Hopefully Liverpool have people looking into helping him properly.

Demosthenese · 26-06-2014 11:20PM

6 month global ban

Not defending him i mean, how can you! BUT ... i'd suggest that the guy should be made do 4 months of mental fitness training and to see a FEW of the best shrinks that the world has to offer. Based on the findings then can return to football when they see fit. Longer if necessary.

Lets be honest, no matter if you love or hate the guy as a footballer - he has a serious screw loose and should not be ignored! Imagine a grown man in this country biting someone else on a football field THREE times??? It doesn't even make sense to type it!

Its a sad situation regardless.

JerCotter7 · 26-06-2014 11:26PM

Royal Irish wrote: »

It really grinds my gears seeing people refer to Suarez as a genius.

Van Nistelrooy scored more league goals in a single season than Suarez ever did and I would never refer to him as a genius and I'm a United fan. He was a great finisher like Suarez.

I reserve the description of genius to the likes of Zidane and Messi in recent times.

Its not a matter of opinion. Its basic common sense lads.

I'd never consider any soccer player a genius, well not for his playing ability anyway. Gifted fits them better. But genius just doesn't fit when we see so many of them are dumb as bag of hammers. That's just me.

OT: Completely deserved. Wonder would Fifa ever increase it if the appeal fails.

NoelJ · 26-06-2014 11:30PM

3 matches

JerCotter7 wrote: »

I'd never consider any soccer player a genius, well not for his playing ability anyway. Gifted fits them better. But genius just doesn't fit when we see so many of them are dumb as bag of hammers. That's just me.

OT: Completely deserved. Wonder would Fifa ever increase it if the appeal fails.

A genius is a person who displays exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality. I believe the OP was referring to him as a football genius not an academic genius.

JerCotter7 · 26-06-2014 11:34PM

NoelJ wrote: »

A genius is a person who displays exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality. I believe the OP was referring to him as a football genius not an academic genius.

I know. I just choose to not consider them genius. Just my opinion is all.

The Pontiac · 26-06-2014 11:37PM

Demosthenese wrote: »

Common sense? Take the blinkers off would ya. Suarez scores the type of goals that very few can. He does things on the ball that very few can and he is unplayable with his style when in full flow. RVN was an unbelievable finisher and unmatched in the box from 8 yards. But completely different players. Suarez in footballing terms is the epitome of a genius ... despite how badly you do not want him to be ... its basic footballing sense that you may learn some day.

Was Thierry Henry a genius?

ArmaniJeanss · 26-06-2014 11:37PM

6 matches

Lennonist wrote: »

Banning Suarez does nothing with regards stopping him from doing this again. He needs professional help and a proper diagnosis of whatever condition he may have. Hopefully Liverpool have people looking into helping him properly.

Going by his relatively good behaviour last EPL season I'd say its very likely that Liverpool may well have been doing that already. But obviously that would all have stopped once he goes away for 6 weeks with Uruguay.

osarusan · 26-06-2014 11:37PM

Does anybody have the full text of the FIFA ruling/statement? Did they explain the decision-making process?

I'm interested to see if the statements hint that these 'worldwide' bans are more likely in the future, or if it is something which applies only to this incident.

Fr. Ned · 26-06-2014 11:39PM

12 month global ban

Royal Irish wrote: »

It really grinds my gears seeing people refer to Suarez as a genius.

Van Nistelrooy scored more league goals in a single season than Suarez ever did and I would never refer to him as a genius and I'm a United fan. He was a great finisher like Suarez.

I reserve the description of genius to the likes of Zidane and Messi in recent times.

Its not a matter of opinion. Its basic common sense lads.

Ah yes, Zidane.

The player who ended his career by headbutting (viciously assaulting) another player in a world cup final.

same ol sh1te · 26-06-2014 11:41PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Ah yes, Zidane.

The player who ended his career by headbutting (viciously assaulting) another player in a world cup final.

Whataboutery, he didn't do it 3 times

The Pontiac · 26-06-2014 11:42PM

osarusan wrote: »

Does anybody have the full text of the FIFA ruling/statement? Did they explain the decision-making process?

I'm interested to see if the statements hint that these 'worldwide' bans are more likely in the future, or if it is something which applies only to this incident.

It probably only applies to this incident/s, as biting fellow professionals, on three different occasions, would fall into "exceptional circumstances". And downright weird and fúcked up.

NoelJ · 26-06-2014 11:45PM

3 matches

The Pontiac wrote: »

Was Thierry Henry a genius?

Some will say yes, some will say no. It's a matter of opinion. He was a cheat too.

I really think football needs a citing commission like rugby where the game is viewed to see if there was any problems. It would stop all the diving, the elbowing, the headbutting etc. I think Costa should have been banned during this world cup and this would have stopped it. It'd cut out diving as well.

NoelJ · 26-06-2014 11:48PM

3 matches

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Whataboutery, he didn't do it 3 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoP04d72rkw

Zidane has done it before at 1:04. Zidane headbutting Materrazzi in the World Cup Final which was the 2nd time that he had headbutted someone got a 3 game ban. Suarez who bit someone for a 3rd time in the World Cup got a 9 game and 4 month ban. Zidane's attacks were both more brutal than Suarez's in my opinion. Fifa have to be consistent. If Zidane had gotten a 2 month ban I could understand the Suarez punishment as people view biting as worse than headbutting. The fact he got a 3 game ban, I don't accept it as the punishments are completely out of line with each other. People will say that Zidane was retiring but that shouldn't make any different to the punishment as he should have been banned from stadiums, training and any club like Suarez for it to be fair.

Alonso77 · 26-06-2014 11:51PM

Over 10 matches

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Whataboutery, he didn't do it 3 times

can someone please ban this cringey word?!? ahh!!

The Pontiac · 26-06-2014 11:52PM

NoelJ wrote: »

Some will say yes, some will say no. It's a matter of opinion. He was a cheat too.

I really think football needs a citing commission like rugby where the game is viewed to see if there was any problems. It would stop all the diving, the elbowing, the headbutting etc. I think Costa should have been banned during this world cup and this would have stopped it. It'd cut out diving as well.

I personally wouldn't put the likes of Henry, Rooney, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo and Suarez into the category of genius.

Maradona, Zidane and Messi I would.

But as you say it's a matter of opinion.

Alonso77 · 26-06-2014 11:58PM

Over 10 matches

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Whataboutery, he didn't do it 3 times

he stamped on a Saudi player in 98 world cup and was banned so he had form so to speak

26-06-2014 11:59PM

same ol sh1te · 27-06-2014 12:02AM

Alonso77 wrote: »

he stamped on a Saudi player in 98 world cup and was banned so he had form so to speak

What has that got to do with this Suarez ban. It's the first time Fifa have had some balls, even though they still bottled it imo, should've been longer

Vito Corleone · 27-06-2014 12:03AM

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Whataboutery, he didn't do it 3 times

He had a history of violent conduct actually.

Tippex · 27-06-2014 12:04AM

citytillidie wrote: »

Nope it was only Liverpool domestic games he was banned for, he was able to play in FIFA's Confederations Cup

this was due to the fact it was the english fa that banned him not the international governing body.

Fifa really did miss a trick on their wording. They should have included a provision of some sort of treatment and also further sanctions (defined) if he was to do it again in his career.

K-9 · 27-06-2014 12:06AM

partyguinness wrote: »

Because the average Liverpool fan is about 22 and a bit thick.

LOL. And your next post is off to bed children. Trust you were saying you were going to bed.

How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

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