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Do most kids today have no manners?

  • 26-06-2014 12:52PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭


    I'm not saying all are but some of the stuff i've witnessed in the last few years have made me wonder.

    Growing up I was always seen but never heard. No such thing as talking back to an adult and being a damn cheeky little f**ker. I never dreamt of disrespecting an elder or anyone.

    For example I was out at a fast food chain with my nearly 60 year old mother. We got our food and went walking to a table to sit down. Mind you their were plenty of seats around. As I'm about a foot from the table with a full tray of food this 10 year old girl runs and pushes past me almost knocking my tray out of my hands and she sits down on the sit i'm about to put my tray on and just stares at me.

    My mother said to her, we were going to sit there and that she obviously knew that and to have some manners. So the girl went off to her mom over at the counter and gives out ****e to her mother about us. We're sitting there eating away and the mother comes up to us and tells us how dare we be so rude to her daughter and never to speak to her like that again and that we don't own the restaurant etc and walks away without letting us say a word.

    The mother and daughter leave with their just bought food and the daughter turns around and sticks her tongue out at my mother...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Darn kids with their rock and roll and sex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭solomafioso


    I blame the c*nty parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I know loads of kids today that are infinitely more mannerly than I ever was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    C*nts breed c*nts unfortunately. Child has no chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭logically


    Everyone is going to have anecdotal evidence which will prove or disprove your theory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,734 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    THEZAPPA wrote: »
    For example I was out at a fast food chain

    What do you expect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    Take your mother to a proper restaurant you cheapskate! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭THEZAPPA


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    What do you expect?

    True
    The Dagda wrote: »
    Take your mother to a proper restaurant you cheapskate! :pac:

    Haha ah here she wanted some quick food :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,498 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I vote we put twenty or thirty of them in a room and say teaching is an easy job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭snaphook


    THEZAPPA wrote: »
    I'm not saying all are but some of the stuff i've witnessed in the last few years have made me wonder.

    Growing up I was always seen but never heard. No such thing as talking back to an adult and being a damn cheeky little f**ker. I never dreamt of disrespecting an elder or anyone.

    For example I was out at a fast food chain with my nearly 60 year old mother. We got our food and went walking to a table to sit down. Mind you their were plenty of seats around. As I'm about a foot from the table with a full tray of food this 10 year old girl runs and pushes past me almost knocking my tray out of my hands and she sits down on the sit i'm about to put my tray on and just stares at me.

    My mother said to her, we were going to sit there and that she obviously knew that and to have some manners. So the girl went off to her mom over at the counter and gives out ****e to her mother about us. We're sitting there eating away and the mother comes up to us and tells us how dare we be so rude to her daughter and never to speak to her like that again and that we don't own the restaurant etc and walks away without letting us say a word.

    The mother and daughter leave with their just bought food and the daughter turns around and sticks her tongue out at my mother...


    Please tell me you tore the mother to shreds verbally in front of everyone.

    PLEASE!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    While I definitely think there's been a decline in manners I don't really see the problem as being the kids themselves. Kids have always been prone, given half a chance to being obnoxious little sh1tes, I know I was when I could get away with it. The real problem is too many indulgent parents who want to be their child's trendy mate, thus ensuring a lack of consequences for misbehaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    snaphook wrote: »
    Please tell me you tore the mother to shreds verbally in front of everyone.

    PLEASE!!!!

    What gets me was that the mother and kid didn't even eat in after all that... :confused: The mother sounds like a c*nt in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    It's the parents not the child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭snaphook


    Custardpi wrote: »
    While I definitely think there's been a decline in manners I don't really see the problem as being the kids themselves. Kids have always been prone, given half a chance to being obnoxious little sh1tes, I know I was when I could get away with it. The real problem is too many indulgent parents who want to be their child's trendy mate, thus ensuring a lack of consequences for misbehaviour.

    Like the old saying "The pup takes after the dog".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    Socrates qoute, or Aristotle or whoever it was. I hardly need to add the text of it at this stage, AHers must have it memorised for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    I'd say they're about as mannerly as what went before them

    And as what will come after them

    Every generation thinks their youth are the worst


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    tritium wrote: »
    I'd say they're about as mannerly as what went before them

    And as what will come after them

    Every generation thinks their youth are the worst

    What a load of sweeping statement BS :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Socrates qoute, or Aristotle or whoever it was. I hardly need to add the text of it at this stage, AHers must have it memorised for themselves.

    Ah yes that old chestnut, basically translates as "I know nothing whatsoever about the state of ancient Greek society at the time but sure some guy said something similar then to what people are saying today so I'll just apply that without context & therefore win the argument because dead Greek guys are obviously wrong".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    snaphook wrote: »
    Like the old saying "The pup takes after the dog".

    Black cow, black calf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I think it's parenting that's the problem. We were brought up to show respect to adults, now we might have thought those adults were cnuts but we wouldn't have dared to be rude to them or there'd have been Hell to pay from our parents. I find kids these days to be very precocious in an annoying arrogant way.

    I think a lot of it is down to kids being given too much freedom and being over indulged. I see young kids out playing on the street at 10pm when they should already be asleep in bed. A lot of it is just down to piss poor parenting skills.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Ah yes I love the parents that when you complain to them about their scrote kids, They immediately go on a tirade of my child is lovely would do no such thing call you all the names under the sun. Until you confront them with the video on your smart phone. Blood rushes from there body look of wanting the earth to swallow them up. As they generally have no idea what their kids are doing as long as they are not in the house in their hair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    i would say in general most kids today have no manners, since having my daughter i have seen all sorts as i am more exposed to children friendly places than i was before she came along,

    everyone is so different you get so many different parenting styles all with their positive and negative effects, so it is hard to say specifically, but i have noticed children no longer respect adults, or the elderly, in fact only the other day in a shopping center my daughter briefly looked back at something and while not paying attention walked into an elderly woman,

    what surprised me is how surprised the elderly woman was when my daughter started apologising profusely for bumping into her, she was genuinely shocked to hear a child apologise to her and said as much before we walked away, i think that says a lot about that woman's experiences of children and she isn't the only one with bad experiences of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    i have noticed children no longer respect adults, or the elderly

    They're too obsessed with themselves to consider other people. Teenagers these days are the most narcissistic little fcukers and they're just oozing with a sense of self entitlement. Kids look up to them as big brothers/sisters, and learn from them and their peers so it'll be while before it changes. Sad really.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,353 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Black cow, black calf.

    An elderly neighbour of ours has the best I've ever heard...

    "Scuttery cow, scuttery calf" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭THEZAPPA


    snaphook wrote: »
    Please tell me you tore the mother to shreds verbally in front of everyone.

    PLEASE!!!!

    I wish but she pretty much ran away back to the counter and I couldn't be arsed. My mom shouted have a nice day to you too. Was pretty funny to see my mom say that but not so nice because she was upset after it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    I was involved in a business recently where I came in to contact with a load of children. I have to admit that I was pleasantly surprised at how mannerly and well behaved the vast majority were. I would not have previously thought the % would be so high and I was delighted to be proved wrong. Having said that, I met some pure scumbags (10-17 yr olds generally) that are heading for nowhere fast


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,353 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    The thing is there are dickhead adults who had to be dickhead kids. Nobody starts out as a nice, mannerly well-behaved child and turns into an absolute knob when they get to 18.

    So in order to maintain the ratio of nice, "normal" adults to not so nice adults, we have to have nice, mannerly "normal" children, and dickheads.

    If you think about it though, that is one child you encountered that day... How many other children did you see in town that you paid no attention to whatsoever because they were quietly & politely going about their business?

    So, the majority of kids are lovely. Unfortunately it's the very small minority that attract the most attention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Apex Predator


    I dunno, where I grew up there were a few bad eggs alright.

    Especially this one kid, Jack Merridew. Him and his friend Roger were right little savages. Running around like they owned the place.

    He used to make fun of this fat kid. Called him 'piggy' and such.

    One time he even broke piggy's glasses and we couldn't get a decent fire going..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    The thing is there are dickhead adults who had to be dickhead kids. Nobody starts out as a nice, mannerly well-behaved child and turns into an absolute knob when they get to 18.

    I disagree, it's a generational issue. There's lots of people in their 30s-40s who are great people but their kids are destroyed by the likes of social media, the kardashinas etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I think the problem is the concept of manners. The way society views manners is discrimination. Children are held to standards of manners that are never considered for adults.

    I know it is anecdotal but on my dads side of the family children are expected to address adults in a way that no adult would ever address a child or another adult.


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