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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

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  • #92
    Utopia Parkway
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    Agueroooo wrote: »
    are FIFA usually quick with disciplinary matters, or are they a pack of procrastinating melts like the other lot?

    You'd imagine it will have to be done before Saturday when Uruguay play again.


  • #93
    MightyMandarin
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    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    Not usually quick, but expect it to be different this time. The World Cup is their flagship event, and they've been in overdrive promoting the fair play aspect this time around. The whole tournament is now overshadowed by the Suarez incident. I'd say they'll crucify him soon.

    I'd say Blatter is slightly pleased this happened though because it takes away from all the protests, match-fixing and Qatar aswell. Now he can make Suarez the scapegoat for everything.


  • #94
    redbaron_99
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    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    I'd say Blatter is slightly pleased this happened though because it takes away from all the protests, match-fixing and Qatar aswell. Now he can make Suarez the scapegoat for everything.

    Well, that would be Blatter alright. He probably paid Suarez to do it! :pac:

    Honestly, I think he'll get a year ban from internationals. As a United fan, I'd love to see the back of him for a long time, but they couldn't give him a club ban. That would essentially be a punishment for Liverpool. Am I right?
    Can't see that happening. It'll be internationals only.


  • #95
    MightyMandarin
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    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    Well, that would be Blatter alright. He probably paid Suarez to do it! :pac:

    Honestly, I think he'll get a year ban from internationals. As a United fan, I'd love to see the back of him for a long time, but they couldn't give him a club ban. That would essentially be a punishment for Liverpool. Am I right?
    Can't see that happening. It'll be internationals only.

    Hopefully anyway, I feel sorry for Rodgers and everyone who stood by him the last time, if he gets banned from club football, it'll undoubtedly hurt us badly. I hope he gets the treatment he needs, and he'll come back a better player, he's only ruining his career the way he's going and it's a great shame.


  • #96
    redbaron_99
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    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Hopefully anyway, I feel sorry for Rodgers and everyone who stood by him the last time, if he gets banned from club football, it'll undoubtedly hurt us badly. I hope he gets the treatment he needs, and he'll come back a better player, he's only ruining his career the way he's going and it's a great shame.

    True. Rodgers certainly doesn't need this. I thought that it was unfair that Dalglish had to put his neck on the block for Suarez a few years ago with Evra incident. Rodgers is a young manager though, and he shouldn't have to do the same.


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  • #97
    I am pie
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    I dont think we'll hear much from Liverpool or Rogers until FIFA make their move.


  • #98
    gimli2112
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    They can ban him for club games. It's FIFA they can do what they want. What would annoy Liverpool fans is he wasn't banned from internationals, I think, when he got banned (the last time) at club level.


  • #99
    Augmerson
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    gimli2112 wrote: »
    They can ban him for club games. It's FIFA they can do what they want. What would annoy Liverpool fans is he wasn't banned from internationals, I think, when he got banned (the last time) at club level.

    There's no precedent for banning a player over something like this from international and domestic football.

    They won't ban him from club games.


  • #100
    Agent Coulson
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    I can see FIFA giving him give him just a ban equal to a red card for violent conduct which is probably just two games maybe three.


  • #101
    grumpymunster
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    Augmerson wrote: »
    There's no precedent for banning a player over something like this from international and domestic football.

    They won't ban him from club games.

    Not quite the same (but then what is) but none the less lifetime ban for a stupid action in an international. Obviously seems premeditated but FIFA effectively ended his career.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Rojas


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  • #102
    Morzadec
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    SlickRic wrote: »
    i said to a mate last night that I reckon it'll be a one game ban.

    FIFA might not make the big call here.

    FIFA is all about the monaaaayyy, and Suarez, whether you think he's deplorable or not, is box office. FIFA may well find a way to keep him in the tournament.

    No I would be shocked if it was only one game, I'd almost say it's more likely that it's nothing, that they somehow say there is insufficient evidence (of course there is evidence).

    It would have to be at least 3 games. There is a lot of attention on this and a lot of people angry about it...

    I don't know, the act itself probably warrants 4-6 games, something like that, but the fact it's a repeat occurrence, the fact a lot of people are watching and he's a high-profile player, it could be more...

    I would surprise if it goes as far as effecting Liverpool though. I would be surprised if it was a global 6-month or 1-year ban, imo those type of sentences should be reserved for very dangerous play where a player's career is deliberately threatened, Thatcher or Keane's famous fouls, maybe Pepe's outburst where he nearly kicks the player's head, these type of instances.

    I would make a guess at maybe an 8-match ban, but what are we to know? Very difficult to call, but 1 game I really can't see. It would have to be 3 at a minimum.

    Uruguay's and Suarez's reaction and statement should have some bearing too. If they own up and prepare a well-worded statement the could be lesser than if they continue to deny, which i think is a crazy path to take considering the overwhelming evidence


  • #103
    barone
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    ok,so who posted the loyalist panda's pic near the end of the last thread ? !! things are fractious enough right now


  • #104
    Morzadec
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    Although looking at Zidanes punishment - 2 match ban and a 2,000 pound fine....

    Seems very tame, although Suarez's incident is of course worse.

    Also, Tassotti only got 6 games for this:



    Now that was 20 years ago, so maybe a different era slightly, but still seems pretty tame when you look at the devastating effect it had on Enrique's face


  • #105
    Gbear
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    Morzadec wrote: »
    Although looking at Zidanes punishment - 2 match ban and a 2,000 pound fine....

    Seems very tame, although Suarez's incident is of course worse.

    It is?

    You mean the headbutt on Materazzi? Where he headbutted the absolute **** out of him?

    Don't be daft.


  • #106
    RainMaker
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    With all the other serious incidents being mentioned, surprised nobody has mentioned Schumacher yet... Zero punishment for that incident which almost killed somebody!



  • #107
    MonkeyTennis
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    Zidanes was way worse imo


  • #108
    Dickerty
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    MonkeyTennis wrote: »
    Zidanes was way worse imo

    But that was a one-off, in the last game of a sterling career.

    This is Suarez's 3rd incident, although the first in International football.
    Can they really treat it as an isolated incident?

    I suspect an 8 game international ban, nothing on club football, but we sell him anyway. The English media will be ALL OVER him, and if he snaps again in a pool shirt, we could be without him for months...


  • #109
    Washington Irving
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    That's coming back again to the point about biting just being weird. The headbutt was far more likely to do damage and looked a lot more vicious but because a headbutt is more 'normal' than a bite it also seems more acceptable to most people.


  • #110
    taidghbaby
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    At this stage I think the only fair thing is to ban Suarez from life.


  • #111
    mike65
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    RainMaker wrote: »
    With all the other serious incidents being mentioned, surprised nobody has mentioned Schumacher yet... Zero punishment for that incident which almost killed somebody!


    You might as well cite something from the 19th century as regards punishment standards - everyone knew that was practically malicious intent to wound but back then even in a world cup the pressure was far less than it is now. Also imagine if he did it twice or three times! :p


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  • #112
    smileyj1987
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    gimli2112 wrote: »
    They can ban him for club games. It's FIFA they can do what they want. What would annoy Liverpool fans is he wasn't banned from internationals, I think, when he got banned (the last time) at club level.

    They have the power to ban him from club games but I can't see it happening . LFC could bring an argument that it didn't happen while he was playing for them so FIFA shouldn't punish the club for his actions .


  • #113
    Sir Gallagher
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    Kenny and Ritchie speaking sense on RTE whereas over on SSN Ray Wilkins "understands" that Rodgers and Liverpools owners are having a meeting now and that they'll have to sell Suarez now, without question.


  • #114
    RainMaker
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    mike65 wrote: »
    You might as well cite something from the 19th century as regards punishment standards ...

    I couldn't find any videos on youtube from back then :)


  • #115
    K-9
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    Didn't even get a free kick IIRC.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #116
    smileyj1987
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Kenny and Ritchie speaking sense on RTE whereas over on SSN Ray Wilkins "understands" that Rodgers and Liverpools owners are having a meeting now and that they'll have to sell Suarez now, without question.

    Ah sky sports news , got to love them . Such an amount of hype around Suarez by them . LFC won't sell him unless a crazy offer comes in for him .


  • #117
    Grayditch
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    I'll decide on how I feel about this, depending on whether he stays or not...

    Much easier that way.


  • #118
    googled eyes
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    Glad to see the auld bit of bite coming back into the game. Football has been becoming less and less of a contact sport recently. Players should be fighting tooth and nail for the win if you ask me.


  • #119
    Gbear
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    Dickerty wrote: »
    But that was a one-off, in the last game of a sterling career.

    It wasn't a once off. Zidane had a fierce temper and got his fair share of red cards.

    He got a 5 match ban for headbutting a fella in the CL.


  • #120
    Turtyturd
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    googled eyes wrote: »
    Glad to see the auld bit of bite coming back into the game. Football has been becoming less and less of a contact sport recently. Players should be fighting tooth and nail for the win if you ask me.

    They fight tooth, shoulder, and elbow....it's just that the last 2 go unnoticed.


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  • #121
    murpho999
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Kenny and Ritchie speaking sense on RTE whereas over on SSN Ray Wilkins "understands" that Rodgers and Liverpools owners are having a meeting now and that they'll have to sell Suarez now, without question.

    Sure no one's going to buy him now. He's damaged goods


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