Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

TheDoc wrote: »

He was widely regarded as England's future CB and captain, having forged an impressive partnership for the u21 national side with Jones.

He was being gently broken into Fulhams first team, but I can assure you, as someone who actually has a fond interest in seeing UK pundits, journalists and oaches big up the next big thing to see them fall by the wayside, Smalling was being touted as a first choice CB for the next decade.

Now he's looking at questions of his inclusion in squads : /

Think your a little confused Jones was the one touted as the future England captain, Smalling very much came out of the blue and dropped out of the Fulham side after we agreed a deal for him.

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Jones didn't get called up for the u21s till after Smalling signed for us. So there's no way they could have formed a good partnership before Smalling signed for us.

"I've played with Chris for three or four years in the England Under-21s and also at United, and we have a really good understanding," he told reporters.

I could be mixing up some of the underage levels, but it's definitely being flaunted about how the pair caused a stir in the underage setups as a future CB pairing for England

Your making no sense you said he was heralded as the best cb in England despite playing 13 games in two seasons at Fulham now he was being gently broke in. Which is it?

Why are you questioning me as if I made the claim? My point is discussing how typically English players get a hype train, with little to no evidence supporting it, and it falls way short of expectations.

I'd be very much in agreeance with you, in that there was very little to suggest Smalling could or would be a star English CB, whilst he was being gently integrated into the Fulham side.

He was very much receiving gentle exposure at Fulham being brought in gradually, as he was had just come up from practically nowhere.

He was frequently being touted as one of England's best young CB's whilst at Fulham, and expectations where he would be one of two CB's for a decade.

I'm not saying ths is my view, it's not. I'm just telling you what was said about these young players, the expectations. I know me, and you, might not see it. It's a mostly English thing, I'm sure few Irish people would buy into it.

I'm just trying to point out how there is a certain amount of hype that builds for every young English player, that in more cases then not, fizzles out into nothing more then being a "decent" footballer.

By the way, this is what planted the seed in my head for the points I raised throughout the day, it's so blatantly obvious, but just simply get's overlooked. Rarely to never does an English player reach the potential outlined for them, compared to other "big" footballing nations.

http://www.football365.com/john-nicholson/9360693/Kids-May-Never-Be-More-Than-Alright...

zerks wrote: »

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And we were going to pay over £20 million for him:eek::eek:

Atleast we don't have to deal with the lazy linking to us anymore

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Ridiculous, we were linked with same player for 20 Million but he is sold for 6 Million Euro which is around 4.8 Million pounds.

Perfect example of why you shouldn't believe the majority of the the transfer rubbish that circulates.

Still we should have been putting our hat in for him, even if we paid a Utd tax...

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Just backs up my point though really. If we'd believed he had gone for €6m we'd look like a pair of assholes right now.

Yeah but no one reported 6 Million fee. The one who did it clarified it as 6 Million is what Benfica got. Just a small confusion.

Yeah re rumors, some people react to every single news no matter who and which paper reports it.

Crimson King wrote: »

Considering how under the radar the Herrera business was, would anyone be surprised if Kroos was signed once the WC is over?

I`d be astonished.

We're getting herrera who looks like a good box to box midfielder which is what we need!

Nuts102 wrote: »

Hopefully Carvalho and De Jong can be signed would be happy with that.

Yeah they're both attainable and would definitely add to the first team.

No way sure isn't DeJong too hard and just not good enough. You missed the memo.

Neeson wrote: »

No way sure isn't DeJong too hard and just not good enough. You missed the memo.

Disagree, exactly what we need in the middle of the park. He is also a better footballer than people give him credit for.

Any pics of Herrera in Carrington?

TheTownie wrote: »

You wouldn't have to ask the question if there was.

Couldnt just have said no? :pac:

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

Couldnt just have said no? :pac:

TheTownie wrote: »

That would go against the spirit of the internet.

Have to admit, has got you there.