Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

Crimson King · 24-06-2014 08:53PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I did a quick write up on Ander Herrera for Balls.ie/.co.uk here: http://balls.co.uk/ander-herrera-5-things-need-know-uniteds-new-signing/ for those who haven't seen any of him. It's only a quick piece but my thoughts on how and where he will play for us are in there.

Nice piece Mikey. Hate to be THAT guy but the last sentence, career v carrer

Larry Wildman · 24-06-2014 08:55PM

Shaw's pass for Lallana was exquisite to be fair...although one swallow doesn't make a summer

Rayne Wooney · 24-06-2014 08:56PM

Full back positions are the easiest to fill on the pitch and spending £40 million on one is madness IMO and one who isn't even near world class at that

KH25 · 24-06-2014 08:56PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Don't see what the difference 5 or so million makes when you are investing in 10+ years cover in an important position. Just get the transfer done and concentrate on the others the team needs. Talk of money not being spent would irk me a lot more tbh

Well its 10million, which is a fair chunk of change. I just think its money that should be better spent on midfield.

bucketybuck · 24-06-2014 08:58PM

Headshot wrote: »

But I would argue they wouldnt be near Shaw's lvl. Utd are buying a player that they dont need to replace for 10 plus years, its going to save money in the long run

I would be more than happy to buy Shaw and have him for ten years, but at some point you simply have to say that a transfer fee is not good value. Its not a computer game, overspending for certain players does have a tangible effect and I would prefer the club was run responsibly, within reason.

I wouldn't pay £100million for Gareth Bale, I wouldn't pay £35 million for Andy Carroll and £40 million is simply far too much money for Luke Shaw.

RasTa · 24-06-2014 09:00PM

You gotta be a certain type of special if you think it's worth spending £40m on a left back

The_Kew_Tour · 24-06-2014 09:03PM

we could get decent lb for 15 million

Will I Amnt · 24-06-2014 09:05PM

Rio cost 30m in 2002. Wonder what that would translate to in today's market?

The_Kew_Tour · 24-06-2014 09:07PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Rio cost 30m in 2002. Wonder what that would translate to in today's market?

english + united love for paying crazy cash for english = 130m est

Will I Amnt · 24-06-2014 09:16PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

english + united love for paying crazy cash for english = 130m est

It would easily be 50m and probably a good bit more. Looking back you would say it was money well spent but he was well established, Shaw isn't near that level yet. There is a big risk element involved even if he does look the real deal.

shadowcomplex · 24-06-2014 09:33PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Hopefully we haven't bitten off more than we can chew with this Herrera transaction. We don't want to cannibalise our transfer kitty. Hopefully Van Gaal and Woodward can get their teeth into that list of transfer targets once the World Cup is over. We need to pay prospective players better than in-dentured slaves. We need someone who's as hard as enamel for our midfield. The rumoured signings could be savage. I'll celebrate like an animal if they come to fruition. Hopefully the details of future deals will be fleshed out soon.

Let me guess you had Italian for dinner tonight

The_Kew_Tour · 24-06-2014 09:37PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Let me guess you had Italian for dinner tonight

A Chewy Luis, rare.

bucketybuck · 24-06-2014 09:47PM

People seem to forget that Rio Ferdinand was already the worlds most expensive defender before United bought him, Leeds broke that record when they signed him from West Ham.

Before Rio ever joined United he was the Leeds club captain, was first choice centre back at the 2002 World cup and had played in a Champions league semi-final.

Luke Shaw is 18 and plays for Southampton. I get why the comparison, but its not really the same.

bmcc10 · 24-06-2014 09:48PM

What will become of our Shinji next year? Was he any good tonight? Maybe i'm been blinded because he's a very likeable player but hopefully he come's good under LVG, Hasn't Van Gaal praised him very highly already from his time in the Bundesliga?

ElChe32 · 24-06-2014 09:50PM

Can we please sign sign James Rodriguez...he is top quality.

shrewdness · 24-06-2014 10:00PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

Can we please sign sign James Rodriguez...he is top quality.

He was always quality imo but obviously his price tag has sky rocketed now. He's having some tournament.

Rayne Wooney · 24-06-2014 10:00PM

40 million for Rodriguez I'd sanction

Lucas Hood · 24-06-2014 10:02PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

40 million for Rodriguez I'd sanction

He cost more than that last season. Monaco paid €45m for him.

Hococop · 24-06-2014 10:24PM

Reported herrera passed medical

Not sure if its totally true or just bs

Degag · 24-06-2014 10:34PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

we could get decent lb for 15 million

Could we? Who?

We need more than a decent LB also. Evra is our only recognised one and he was cack last season.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-06-2014 10:40PM

Degag wrote: »

Could we? Who?

We need more than a decent LB also. Evra is our only recognised one and he was cack last season.

im not going to list players we might not be linked too cause that would open can of worms but yes a few decent lb are out there for that price if you try hard enough. we were linked with few last summer for that price.

Son Of A Vidic · 24-06-2014 11:48PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Hopefully we haven't bitten off more than we can chew with this Herrera transaction. We don't want to cannibalise our transfer kitty. Hopefully Van Gaal and Woodward can get their teeth into that list of transfer targets once the World Cup is over. We need to pay prospective players better than in-dentured slaves. We need someone who's as hard as enamel for our midfield. The rumoured signings could be savage. I'll celebrate like an animal if they come to fruition. Hopefully the details of future deals will be fleshed out soon.

Biting analysis that. All going well and come August time, hopefully we'll all be happy with the signings. Otherwise Woodward will be really in the doghouse. I'll be content if we can sign one midfield warrior, who can be a real pack leader for us.

IvySlayer · 25-06-2014 12:23AM

Is he going to use that 5-2-1-2 system at United do you think? Working for Holland :P

Another CB would be nice, even if Vermaelan signs, central midfielder too, can't see any room for Nani/Young/Zaha

Vic Vinegar · 25-06-2014 12:47AM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Is he going to use that 5-2-1-2 system at United do you think? Working for Holland :P

Another CB would be nice, even if Vermaelan signs, central midfielder too, can't see any room for Nani/Young/Zaha

Hes only using that formation out of necessity really. It'll be back to his favourite 433 with us i reckon.

irishfeen · 25-06-2014 07:25AM

Reports this morning that United have been working for some time to make sure there are no tax issues in the purchase of Herrera and that Herrera himself contributing €4m from future Manchester United salary to help deal go through.

Most pleasing element as long of course that it does go through is the lack of information leaked to the press from either side - it's nice to give the rags the two fingers every so often.

Mitch Connor · 25-06-2014 07:29AM

irishfeen wrote: »

Reports this morning that United have been working for some time to make sure there are no tax issues in the purchase of Herrera and that Herrera himself contributing €4m from future Manchester United salary to help deal go through.

Most pleasing element as long of course that it does go through is the lack of information leaked to the press from either side - it's nice to give the rags the two fingers every so often.

remember reading an article a while back saying that United needed to get back to the old way of doing things, and cited the Hernandez transfer - where we agreed to play a friendly vs Chivas on the condition that the transfer was not leaked before it was made official. Seemingly United giving extras or incentives to keep quiet was fairly common.

Mitch Connor · 25-06-2014 07:33AM

glued wrote: »

I think one of the problems more recently was that the leaks were coming from our side. That seems to have stopped now which is great news.

true - but the point would remain. In order to get back to the old ways the leaks would also have to stop from our side, no point incentivising the other party if you are blabbing yourself.

Interesting that Southampton went running to the press the moment we bid for Shaw at the end of the season.

25-06-2014 07:39AM

irishfeen wrote: »

Reports this morning that United have been working for some time to make sure there are no tax issues in the purchase of Herrera and that Herrera himself contributing €4m from future Manchester United salary to help deal go through.

Most pleasing element as long of course that it does go through is the lack of information leaked to the press from either side - it's nice to give the rags the two fingers every so often.

Great news; I'm really liking how this deal is being handled.

Source?

newballsplease · 25-06-2014 07:45AM

This time yesterday i was a bit angry with the amount stated UTD were spending on this player. After a bit more thought and reading up on few things il admit i was being harsh. Its a central midfielder, hes badly needed so, thumbs up!

beakerjoe · 25-06-2014 07:53AM

newballsplease wrote: »

This time yesterday i was a bit angry with the amount stated UTD were spending on this player. After a bit more thought and reading up on few things il admit i was being harsh. Its a central midfielder, hes badly needed so, thumbs up!

No harm done, sure its a discussion site and sure we are all (well most of us) supporting the same team and most want the club to do well, we all just have different opinions about how the club should achieve success.

If we all had the same opinion, the place would be boring.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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