World Cup 2014 Super Thread copyright warning #1645

fryup · 15-06-2014 09:43AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^

normally no, but seeing that it was the physio ..you gotta chuckle:p

joe123 · 15-06-2014 09:48AM

Can someone tell me where Alan Hansen is? I was almost sure he wasnt retiring until after the world cup?

Did something happen since to change that or was it always the case he wouldn't be on the world cup?

He went through the motions a bit but I actually miss him on the bbc now.

intellectual dosser · 15-06-2014 10:09AM

Last night resolved my own internal debate on RTE's punditry against BBC/ITV.

RTE started 20 minutes earlier, so I watched that. Bunch of old men continuously talking over each other, rehashing points they've made just 30 seconds previously. Moved to BBC at 22:20, easy going guys talking a bit of sense, nice and handy to watch.

Then again Phil Neville was pretty lame on the commentary, I guess I better keep the remote close by for the duration of the tournament.

seligehgit · 15-06-2014 10:13AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Last night resolved my own internal debate on RTE's punditry against BBC/ITV.

RTE started 20 minutes earlier, so I watched that. Bunch of old men continuously talking over each other, rehashing points they've made just 30 seconds previously. Moved to BBC at 22:20, easy going guys talking a bit of sense, nice and handy to watch.

Then again Phil Neville was pretty lame on the commentary, I guess I better keep the remote close by for the duration of the tournament.

God I thought the 3 amigos on RTE won hands down

Phil Neville was awful on the Beeb commentary,super cure for insomnia.:pac:

fryup · 15-06-2014 10:16AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Then again Phil Neville was pretty lame on the commentary, I guess I better keep the remote close by for the duration of the tournament.

terrible co-commentator how he got that gig i don't know, used every cliche under the sun, has to be Lawro for the england games

intellectual dosser · 15-06-2014 10:25AM

seligehgit wrote: »

God I thought the 3 amigos on RTE won hands down Phil Neville was awful on the Beeb commentary,super cure for insomnia.:pac:

Yeah but Im focusing on the analysis in the studio.

There was one moment where Bill O'Herlihy was trying to stir things saying "You think its a disgrace dont you John", even though Giles had said nothing of the sort and clarified that he hadnt. What the hell is he like?

It's gotten old, and needs a serious overhaul. Respect to Bill's years but I think it's best that he's going.

Shane St. · 15-06-2014 10:37AM

Loving the world cup so far. Plenty of goals. Hope of more today please!

greendom · 15-06-2014 10:41AM

fryup wrote: »

terrible co-commentator how he got that gig i don't know, used every cliche under the sun, has to be Lawro for the england games

Neville's delivery was poor but the content was far superior to anything Lawro has to offer

Agent Coulson · 15-06-2014 05:50PM

I will say it again I love this World Cup.

KERSPLAT! · 15-06-2014 05:52PM

Rough on Ecuador, great world cup though!!!

Paully D · 15-06-2014 05:56PM

It has been an enjoyable tournament so far with the games being so open and having so many goals, but the officiating is a real black mark on it for me.

The Brazil game was refereed so poorly it wouldn't be a stretch to say it was fixed, Mexico had two goals wrongly ruled out against Cameroon, the penalty Spain got was very controversial, and yet another poor decision from the officials cost Drmic a goal today.

I must say the referee played a great advantage for the Switzerland winner mind, but overall the standard of refereeing has been very, very poor.

Skylinehead · 15-06-2014 05:59PM

Paully D wrote: »

It has been an enjoyable tournament so far with the games being so open and having so many goals, but the officiating is a real black mark on it for me.

The Brazil game was refereed so poorly it wouldn't be a stretch to say it was fixed, Mexico had two goals wrongly ruled out against Cameroon, the penalty Spain got was very controversial, and yet another poor decision from the officials cost Drmic a goal today.

I must say the referee played a great advantage for the Switzerland winner mind, but overall the standard of refereeing has been very, very poor.

Mexico won, Spain lost, Switzerland won. Sure the Brazil game was dodgy, but it's a bit of a stretch that a few bad decisions that mostly haven't changed any results are a "black mark".

Paully D · 15-06-2014 06:22PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Mexico won, Spain lost, Switzerland won. Sure the Brazil game was dodgy, but it's a bit of a stretch that a few bad decisions that mostly haven't changed any results are a "black mark".

That's besides the point for me. Just because the decisions mostly haven't changed any results, it doesn't mean they don't have an effect in other ways.

For example, Dos Santos would currently be the leader as top goalscorer (by virtue of also having an assist) if his two wrongly disallowed goals had stood. These decisions could well play a part in goal difference in deciding whether a team gets out of their group or not.

The World Cup has been excellent so far, but the officiating is certainly one thing that hasn't been.

Skylinehead · 15-06-2014 06:26PM

Paully D wrote: »

That's besides the point for me. Just because the decisions mostly haven't changed any results, it doesn't mean they don't have an effect in other ways.

For example, Dos Santos would currently be the leader as top goalscorer (by virtue of also having an assist) if his two wrongly disallowed goals had stood. These decisions could well play a part in goal difference in deciding whether a team gets out of their group or not.

The World Cup has been excellent so far, but the officiating is certainly one thing that hasn't been.

You're assuming that Mexico would have scored again had the first one been counted. Football doesn't work that way.

Nuri Sahin · 15-06-2014 06:27PM

On a general note - match threads here, social media, some friends IRL, the amount of over reaction over the opening games is incredible. Goes for the majority of games played so far.

Agent Coulson · 15-06-2014 06:34PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

On a general note - match threads here, social media, some friends IRL, the amount of over reaction over the opening games is incredible. Goes for the majority of games played so far.

The quality of football may not be the best but for excitement and goals so far it has been the best tournament in a long long time.

Paully D · 15-06-2014 06:38PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

You're assuming that Mexico would have scored again had the first one been counted. Football doesn't work that way.

Then your point regarding the decisions not changing the results is invalid, surely? If that's the case, how do you know that Cameroon, as an example, wouldn't have gone on to win 3-1 if Mexico's first goal had counted?

Skylinehead · 15-06-2014 06:42PM

Paully D wrote: »

Then your point regarding the decisions not changing the results is invalid, surely? If that's the case, how do you know that Cameroon, as an example, wouldn't have gone on to win 3-1 if Mexico's first goal had counted?

Good point :pac:

All I'm trying to say is, it's hardly been awful. Ref was brilliant in England v Italy last night, the only really poor one for me has been Brazil/Croatia. There's a contentious decision every game in the Premier League too.

mike65 · 15-06-2014 08:53PM

Still no draws! Still averaging over 2.5 goals per game. Its great.

Gbear · 15-06-2014 09:07PM

mike65 wrote: »

Still no draws! Still averaging over 2.5 goals per game. Its great.

Is it just the general Brazilianess of the occasion?

mike65 · 15-06-2014 09:08PM

Cor blimey!

NSFW

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Reventon93 · 16-06-2014 08:30AM

Haven't heard much about the Germany - Portugal match. Surprising, seeing as I think it's probably going to be as good as Spain - Netherlands in terms of player quality. Also looking forward to seeing how Ghana do against the US, especially as the other Boateng brother will likely make an appearence

beno619 · 16-06-2014 08:40AM

Should be a cracker, I fancy Portugal to pull a bit of a shock result off.

Lucas Hood · 16-06-2014 08:42AM

Reventon93 wrote: »

Haven't heard much about the Germany - Portugal match. Surprising, seeing as I think it's probably going to be as good as Spain - Netherlands in terms of player quality. Also looking forward to seeing how Ghana do against the US, especially as the other Boateng brother will likely make an appearence

He only came out of retirement for them for their play off :pac:.

Maximus Alexander · 16-06-2014 08:43AM

Hoping to see a 6-5 screamer with hat-tricks from Ronaldo and Nani.

x43r0 · 16-06-2014 08:46AM

What really blows my mind about the opening game is that the Japanese ref didn't speak any English

How can you competently officiate a game if you can't communicate with the players?

and before anyone says it, I refuse to believe that he speaks both Portugese AND Croatian

IK09 · 16-06-2014 09:03AM

This I like.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/16/world-cup-2014-japan-fans-clear-up-litter-after-opening-defeat-to-ivory-coast-4762969/

Reventon93 · 16-06-2014 09:11AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

He only came out of retirement for them for their play off :pac:.

Well sh*t

Still though, I'm hoping Dempsey will get a goal

I was thinking a draw for the Germany - Portugal match. I think the squads are going to be evenly matched. looking forward to it. I'd like Germany to win though :pac:

greendom · 16-06-2014 09:11AM

x43r0 wrote: »

What really blows my mind about the opening game is that the Japanese ref didn't speak any English

How can you competently officiate a game if you can't communicate with the players?

and before anyone says it, I refuse to believe that he speaks both Portugese AND Croatian

It's going to be very tough to find enough multi-lingual refs to cover all the languages involved. don't have a problem with that at all.

Reventon93 · 16-06-2014 09:13AM

And i'd say that there'd be a good number of ref's with German, English, Portuguese and Spanish along with some Asian languages. Depending on where certain players play during the season, it's possible that at least one player would understand the ref or at least the linesmen

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