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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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  • #2
    Cantona's Collars
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    New thread,no new players.


  • #3
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,937 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    zerks wrote: »
    New thread,no new players.
    New sponsors though - woodward always comes through on that score!


  • #4
    Lovely Bloke
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    The Official Manchester United Boards.ie Superthread partner


  • #5
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I am also in this thread now.


  • #6
    Kerrydude1981
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    Surely by the time this thread reaches its end,at least one player will be signed and about 20 new sponsorship deals will be done.


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  • #7
    Adamcp898
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    Mitch Connor wrote:
    I'm basing my opinion on the information of Ducker, Ogden, Ladyman, Jackson, Andy Mitten, UWS, Red Issue and Delaney.

    I know people in here are INCREDIBLY cynical of every single journalist and fanzine, but I personally believe the information I see from certain people (listed above) - I don't believe everyone, and in some cases I would question if those listed are being led by the nose by woodward on certain stories as he has been known to lie to the press in his briefings.

    According to all/some of the above United were very very close to signing Kroos and Carvalho - but we pulled out of both deals (and didnt follow up last summers interest in Fabregas) following the appointment and decisions of LVG. THe summer plans we had have been ripped up - and given people pointed out part of the problem last summer was a CEO and Manager starting transfer work from scratch in the summer when everyone else was weeks or months into their work, I'm very worried about this summer because we have created the exact same situation again.

    This is exactly what has me worried.

    We don't have the excuse that there's noone of any quality available.
    We don't have the excuse that there's no value in the market.

    But yet we're still not seen to be making any concrete moves since LvG has been appointed. I'd be very disappointed if our midfield business turned out to be Strootman and another potentially good Dutch midfielder that caught LvG's eye.


  • #8
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    bullvine wrote: »
    Maybe the deals are done, waiting till after WC to announce them.
    bullvine wrote: »
    Maybe some are part of the Dutch Squad and LVG doesn't want any attention!

    Why is it better not to announce the deals? They are done, who benefits from not announcing them?

    And the second post is illogical. If a player doesn't want attention then the best time to announce it is during the world cup where it will be quickly overshadowed by the next item of news.

    Maybe speculation would affect a player if the deal was only at negotiation, but if its a done deal than that is not a factor. It makes zero sense to delay any announcement.


  • #9
    Cantona's Collars
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    According to Mundo Deportivo,Fabergas' missus had a part to play in him moving to Chelsea.She wanted to stay in London.Even if we wanted him he wouldn't have joined us.

    Dutch media are also pushing the Schweinsteiger to United story.


  • #10
    Maximus Alexander
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    Kerrydude1981 wrote: »
    Surely by the time this thread reaches its end,at least one player will be signed and about 20 new sponsorship deals will be done.

    Bookmarking this post as a reminder of a better time, a time when United fans still had a sliver of optimism flowing in their veins. Come August 31st we shall reflect on these times with a wistful smile, and a soft, choked sigh. ;)


  • #11
    MagicIRL
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    OHHHHH LOIUS VAN GAAL!


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  • #12
    Mitch Connor
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    zerks wrote: »
    According to Mundo Deportivo,Fabergas' missus had a part to play in him moving to Chelsea.She wanted to stay in London.Even if we wanted him he wouldn't have joined us.

    Dutch media are also pushing the Schweinsteiger to United story.

    Reckon De Telegraf is going to be the go to publication for speculation that is mostly on the money this summer, when it comes to United/LVG. They have lead the way since the beginning on LVG and United.


  • #13
    Kerrydude1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Bookmarking this post as a reminder of a better time, a time when United fans still had a sliver of optimism flowing in their veins. Come August 31st we shall reflect on these times with a wistful smile, and a soft, choked sigh. ;)

    Onwards and upwards :D


  • #14
    Cantona's Collars
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    Vermaelen anyone? http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/383550/Man-Utd-leading-Fiorentina-in-race-for-Arsenal-skipper-Thomas-Vermaelen


  • #15
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,616 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Who are we signing today?


  • #16
    Spazdarn
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    Do United have any scouts of worth in South America? Is there a reason why we're slow to recruit from there barring previous experiences with the likes of Kleberson


  • #17
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    zerks wrote: »
    Vermaelen anyone? http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/383550/Man-Utd-leading-Fiorentina-in-race-for-Arsenal-skipper-Thomas-Vermaelen

    Having gone through the Germans and the Dutch, I guess we're on to the Belgians now :pac:


  • #18
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    I don't think there'll be many new signings anyway. We're not in Europe so we don't need as big as squad as last season.

    The current squad are better than what Liverpool have so perhaps without the distraction of the CL and with a decent coach we can survive another unproductive transfer window. I'm really not hopeful of signing anyone this summer.


  • #19
    Maximus Alexander
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    Zico wrote: »
    I don't think there'll be many new signings anyway. We're not in Europe so we don't need as big as squad as last season.

    The current squad are better than what Liverpool have so perhaps without the distraction of the CL and with a decent coach we can survive another unproductive transfer window. I'm really not hopeful of signing anyone this summer.

    :eek:

    Quick, someone throw a rug or something over this post before they see it!!


  • #20
    alchemist33
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    Zico wrote: »
    I don't think there'll be many new signings anyway. We're not in Europe so we don't need as big as squad as last season.

    The current squad are better than what Liverpool have so perhaps without the distraction of the CL and with a decent coach we can survive another unproductive transfer window. I'm really not hopeful of signing anyone this summer.

    Christ. A liver bird-shaped bat signal has just gone up in the sky.


  • #21
    Spazdarn
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    Liverpool's squad is stronger than ours now.


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  • #22
    Pro. F
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    zerks wrote: »
    According to Mundo Deportivo,Fabergas' missus had a part to play in him moving to Chelsea.She wanted to stay in London.Even if we wanted him he wouldn't have joined us.

    Dutch media are also pushing the Schweinsteiger to United story.

    Iirc, last summer the talk was that the reason Fab wanted to leave Barca was because of his woman (and kid?) who lived in London.


  • #23
    The_Kew_Tour
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    Just 1 month till end of world cup lads then things be A Ok.

    Honestly its going be nuts if we sign big name and 10 times worse if dont.

    EVENFLOW



  • #24
    Cantona's Collars
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    ToiletFusion wrote: »
    Liverpool's squad is stronger than ours now.

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  • #25
    MagicIRL
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    Zico wrote: »
    I don't think there'll be many new signings anyway. We're not in Europe so we don't need as big as squad as last season.

    The current squad are better than what Liverpool have so perhaps without the distraction of the CL and with a decent coach we can survive another unproductive transfer window. I'm really not hopeful of signing anyone this summer.
    ToiletFusion wrote: »
    Liverpool's squad is stronger than ours now.

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  • #26
    FutureGuy
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    I expect no new signings in the lifetime of this new thread. That's not even trying to be funny.


  • #27
    Macca07
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    ToiletFusion wrote: »
    Do United have any scouts of worth in South America? Is there a reason why we're slow to recruit from there barring previous experiences with the likes of Kleberson

    The main reason would be the work permit. We'd have to loan them out to a club in Belgium for 3 years in order to gain a work permit. Also, the weather would have a major factor for South American players. The majority end up in Portugal, make a name for themselves and then moved on.


  • #28
    Cantona's Collars
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    DDG speaking about Van Gaal: "He's going to help us a lot because he's going to bring a different style of play," he added.

    Do I detect a little dig at Moyes?


  • #29
    Spazdarn
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    Macca07 wrote: »
    The main reason would be the work permit. We'd have to loan them out to a club in Belgium for 3 years in order to gain a work permit. Also, the weather would have a major factor for South American players. The majority end up in Portugal, make a name for themselves and then moved on.

    City and Chelsea have bought well when it's come to South American players.

    Luiz hilariously going for 50 million, Ramirez wanted by Real despite his poor form last season, Oscar was relatively inexpensive considering how highly rated he was. Paulinho and Fernandinho were pretty good signings too.

    Just surprised we don't delve into that market these days. Focusing on English talent is grand if they're actually any good. Smalling, Jones, Cleverly don't really cut it...


  • #30
    Kess73
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    ToiletFusion wrote: »
    Liverpool's squad is stronger than ours now.


    I think as things stand right now that Liverpool do have a stronger first team squad than what Man U have.


    But I also reckon that last season's points difference reflects the difference a good manager can make than the actual gulf in quality between the squads. If Ferguson had managed Man U last season I still think that a top four finish would not have been gotten, but I am pretty confident that Man U would have been scrapping for a CL spot until the latter stages of the season.

    Now if Man U were going into this season with Moyes still in charge then I would be less wary of the current squad you guys have, but LVG is a different breed to Moyes and if he gets the players onboard quickly, well I think that even the current Man U squad without any new additions could prove to be a sterner test for more teams than they did last season.

    The one thing that would worry me if I were a Man U supporter (and if I am honest it is what as a Liverpool supporter I would not be displeased to see happen) would be if LVG gets (or even imagines that he is getting) interference from Ferguson. I think he is a quality manager, but he is also quite a volatile man when rubbed the wrong way.

    Will be very surprised though if Man U are not back in the chase for a CL slot come next May.


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  • #31
    redbaron_99
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    FutureGuy wrote: »
    I expect no new signings in the lifetime of this new thread. That's not even trying to be funny.

    I think you might be right. Have a very bad feeling about this summer.

    I just get the feeling if we were really close to signing top players, there might be strong rumours of players leaving OT. But there aren't.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we saw two very average additions: Ron Vlaar and Jordi Clasie. Followed by a January bid for Strootman.
    :(


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