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glued · 11-06-2014 07:54AM

Wayne Rooney is awful behind the striker.

MagicMarker · 11-06-2014 08:00AM

glued wrote: »

Wayne Rooney is awful behind the striker.

'course he is.

Spazdarn · 11-06-2014 08:08AM

Hope Nani has a good World Cup so we get a premium price on him when we sell him, he's been at United long enough and not come good, get some money and bring in someone with some semblance of consistency

homerjay2005 · 11-06-2014 08:08AM

glued wrote: »

Wayne Rooney is awful behind the striker.

Rooney is not awful in any central offensive position.

glued · 11-06-2014 08:11AM

Rooney as a Striker - World Class
Rooney as a Centre Forward/Attacking Midfielder - Shíte

Spazdarn · 11-06-2014 08:13AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Rooney is not awful in any central offensive position.

He's best off focusing on actually being a striker and stop this martyr craic coming back into midfield. While admirable what he does, when he's back there winning the ball or trying to distribute the ball, there's one less man up front to receive it.

My only hope is the likes of Carrick et all are replaced and we have a proper midfield going into next season, so Rooney can start playing like a striker again

homerjay2005 · 11-06-2014 08:21AM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

He's best off focusing on actually being a striker and stop this martyr craic coming back into midfield. While admirable what he does, when he's back there winning the ball or trying to distribute the ball, there's one less man up front to receive it.

My only hope is the likes of Carrick et all are replaced and we have a proper midfield going into next season, so Rooney can start playing like a striker again

when RVP and Hernandez pretty much only able to play in one position and formations needed to accomadate normally two wingers and/or the likes of Kagawa, mata and Adnan, the days of us playing 2 out and out strikers or more to the point Rooney in the striker role, are pretty slim.

Tom.D.BJJ · 11-06-2014 08:28AM

Nani last night

http://gfycat.com/EssentialPowerfulHammerheadshark

http://gfycat.com/CrazyFalseBoto

This is the Nani I want to see at Utd next season

homerjay2005 · 11-06-2014 08:29AM

Fletcher to have surgery on a toe injury and will miss start of the season.

Maximus Alexander · 11-06-2014 08:29AM

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Nani last night

http://gfycat.com/EssentialPowerfulHammerheadshark

http://gfycat.com/CrazyFalseBoto

This is the Nani I want to see at Utd next season

Ugh, all I could think was "Ireland are so gash".

Mikeyt086 · 11-06-2014 08:30AM

glued wrote: »

Wayne Rooney is awful behind the striker.

Cool.

Crimson King · 11-06-2014 08:31AM

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Nani last night

http://gfycat.com/EssentialPowerfulHammerheadshark

http://gfycat.com/CrazyFalseBoto

This is the Nani I want to see at Utd next season

Did not see the game last night so this is the first I have seen of his play last night. Sensational touch for the first clip and the second one shows how good he is. More of this please

goodolegill · 11-06-2014 08:47AM

According to twitter - Mueller has signed a new contract

Puts another transfer rumour to bed

11-06-2014 09:00AM

goodolegill wrote: »

According to twitter - Mueller has signed a new contract

Puts another transfer rumour to bed

So he used us as a contract 'crutch' like Fabregas & Kroos....:(

homerjay2005 · 11-06-2014 09:05AM

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Nani last night

http://gfycat.com/EssentialPowerfulHammerheadshark

http://gfycat.com/CrazyFalseBoto

This is the Nani I want to see at Utd next season

when you see Nani playing like that, you'd wonder is he being hampered by the s*it style/approach that we have had in recent years.

our play has been based on being hard to beat and work rate when this perhaps does not suit Nani as he is expected to be a winger like Valencia (not great going forward and more defensive than Nani).

while Adnan had a good season, i do think also that he was being hampered by our formation and approach.

Leftist · 11-06-2014 09:18AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Lets just think about an in-from Nani on the left, Van Persie up front, and Alexis Sanchez out right, with Wayne Rooney doing as he pleases behind them.

Mmm.

/muppetry

rooney on the left of a three

De Gea
Rafael Jones Evans Evra
Valencia Carrick Kagawa
Januzaj/Mata RVP Rooney

obvs discounting any thin air rumours on incoming transfers.

MagicIRL · 11-06-2014 09:19AM

Leftist wrote: »

rooney on the left of a three

De Gea
Rafael Jones Evans Evra
Valencia Carrick Kagawa
Januzaj/Mata RVP Rooney

obvs discounting any thin air rumours on incoming transfers.

You're going to play Mata, Kagawa and Rooney out of position. Do you want to lose games, because that's how you lose games.

Leftist · 11-06-2014 09:26AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

You're going to play Mata, Kagawa and Rooney out of position. Do you want to lose games, because that's how you lose games.

no i don't.

Rooney played off the left of a front three in 2008.

Mata and kagawa, yes I know, but I'm shoehorning here. If vg goes for 433 then where else will either play?

ericzeking · 11-06-2014 09:31AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

You're going to play Mata, Kagawa and Rooney out of position. Do you want to lose games, because that's how you lose games.

While it's not the team I would personally select, one of my main hopes for LVG is that he will be able to mould some of our current players in such a way that they are effective in positions which are not their preferred, like we have Rooney, Mata and Kagawa for that behind the striker/top of the midfield 3 role...they can't all play there but I don't want any of them sold so I'm banking on LVG to get each of them having effect from different areas. I'm banking on him being better at it than Moyes and even better at it than SAF.

Personally I'd play Mata there with Rooney up front at the expense of RVP but that's not going to happen...I'd have Kagawa playing from wide then (not as a winger).

From what I know of LVG, he seems like the type of guy who could do this with players.

Edit: Even with just one decent signing, say Strootman, I'd be looking at LVG working some sort of magic and rejuvenating nani with a formation like this, his 433...Januzaj as impact player for another year

Fellaini Strootman

Mata

Nani Rooney Kagawa

Edit: Obviously I know RVP is going to play

Lucas Hood · 11-06-2014 09:32AM

Leftist wrote: »

no i don't.

Rooney played off the left of a front three in 2008.

Mata and kagawa, yes I know, but I'm shoehorning here. If vg goes for 433 then where else will either play?

Lvgs 433 could easily be seen as a 4231. One of Mata & Kagawa could play in their preferred position.

MagicIRL · 11-06-2014 09:36AM

Leftist wrote: »

no i don't.

Rooney played off the left of a front three in 2008.

Mata and kagawa, yes I know, but I'm shoehorning here. If vg goes for 433 then where else will either play?

Rooney played out left with Ronaldo and Tevez. Different kettle of fish than with RVP and Mata/Januzaj.

Shoehorning players into positions is all fine and dandy but I would much rather a player brought in for the position first and foremost. Not every player will become Schweinstieger.

Leftist · 11-06-2014 09:37AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Rooney played out left with Ronaldo and Tevez. Different kettle of fish than with RVP and Mata/Januzaj.

Shoehorning players into positions is all fine and dandy but I would much rather a player brought in for the position first and foremost. Not every player will become Schweinstieger.

essentially I agree.

We'll just have to see, but I do expect rooney will be played left or right off RVP

Backstreet Moyes · 11-06-2014 09:44AM

Nani is another player who over the last few years struggled under out rigid slow play. He was very good years ago when we played quick attacking football. Kagawa has struggled under it and so has Mata since he arrived. I think a fluid positive system under LVG will bring out the best of those three.

Lord TSC · 11-06-2014 10:29AM

Welbeck might be out of the first game of the World Cup at least.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27789874

11-06-2014 10:33AM

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Nani last night

http://gfycat.com/EssentialPowerfulHammerheadshark

http://gfycat.com/CrazyFalseBoto

This is the Nani I want to see at Utd next season

That 2nd clip - Jesus Titty-Fúcking Christ!!! :eek:

Lucas Hood · 11-06-2014 10:37AM

stankratz wrote: »

That 2nd clip - Jesus Titty-Fúcking Christ!!! :eek:

Wasn't allowed he was called offside.

beno619 · 11-06-2014 10:37AM

Not sure if this was posted, but David Gill calling for Blatter to resign.
Surely he wont last another year ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/10/fas-david-gill-walks-out-of-fifa-meeting-in-brazil-calls-for-sepp-blatter-to-resign_n_5480198.html

11-06-2014 10:44AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Wasn't allowed he was called offside.

Damn. Still, it was lovely movement and he showed some great hunger for the ball. Exquisite ball-watching from the Ireland lads there too.

NTMK · 11-06-2014 10:54AM

beno619 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted, but David Gill calling for Blatter to resign.
Surely he wont last another year ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/10/fas-david-gill-walks-out-of-fifa-meeting-in-brazil-calls-for-sepp-blatter-to-resign_n_5480198.html

I wouldnt be suprised if he did stay or platini was put in as his replacement

such a corrupt organisation

homerjay2005 · 11-06-2014 11:10AM

beno619 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted, but David Gill calling for Blatter to resign.
Surely he wont last another year ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/10/fas-david-gill-walks-out-of-fifa-meeting-in-brazil-calls-for-sepp-blatter-to-resign_n_5480198.html

he will last. they are the most corrupt, inbred bunch of people running any organisation in the world.

the **** got a standing ovation on monday when he gave a speech about how people are giving poor Fifa a hard time.

there is no more despicable man in football than Blatter and that is saying alot.

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