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***JC 2014 Maths Paper Two - Mon. June 9th 2014 - all levels***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭emersyn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭yaEHya


    Reckon I got 140 in that paper and 165 in paper one so I got a ****ing d


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Higher paper done here. I got 7:8 for Question 10 also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    andyman wrote: »
    Higher paper done here. I got 7:8 for Question 10 also.

    How did you find it? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭thetalker


    the hardest question was undoubtedly the one about questioning people at lidl about their favorite place to shop


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    thetalker wrote: »
    the hardest question was undoubtedly the one about questioning people at lidl about their favorite place to shop

    Not a sign of Aldi. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Liordi wrote: »
    How did you find it? :)

    Let r1 = 6cm and r2 = 3cm then apply the formula:

    V = π (r1^2 + r1r2 + r2^2) h/3

    Answer should leave you with (in terms of pi) 147π

    Put that answer over the answer for part (i) and you get a ratio of .875:1 or 7:8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    andyman wrote: »
    Let r1 = 6cm and r2 = 3cm then apply the formula:

    V = π (r1^2 + r1r2 + r2^2) h/3

    Answer should leave you with (in terms of pi) 147π

    Put that answer over the answer for part (i) and you get a ratio of .875:1 or 7:8

    I meant the paper in general. :)
    Thanks, though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Liordi wrote: »
    I meant the paper in general. :)
    Thanks, though

    It seemed very fair to me. I know a lot of people were afraid yesterday because of a nice paper 1 but it was nice to see they were just nervous.

    Question two was very badly worded, which is an ongoing issue in Project Maths. I think the general idea was clear but a lot of students could easily have had to read it a couple of times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    andyman wrote: »
    It seemed very fair to me. I know a lot of people were afraid yesterday because of a nice paper 1 but it was nice to see they were just nervous.

    Question two was very badly worded, which is an ongoing issue in Project Maths. I think the general idea was clear but a lot of students could easily have had to read it a couple of times.

    Oh, are you a teacher or something? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Liordi wrote: »
    Oh, are you a teacher or something? :)

    Yes, just newly qualified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    andyman wrote: »
    Yes, just newly qualified.

    Did you post the solutions online? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    andyman wrote: »
    Yes, just newly qualified.

    Hm if you could post a link with the solutions it would be brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Answer to 8 (iii) anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    Answer to 8 (iii) anyone?

    x - 3y - 7 = 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Emmie123


    So happy with how paper 2 went! Hopefully that's pushed me to a high B :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭roisiny


    PS. That theorem of the circle was such a surprise, good thing I learned it the day before, I had doubts it would come up after seeing it in a previous exam paper.
    Got up at 6:45 and learnt it this morning, even though my body was not impressed with six hours sleep ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    Can some one tell me how to do question 8? Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Liordi wrote: »
    x - 3y - 7 = 0

    This.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    Can some one tell me how to do question 8? Thanks :)

    Which part in particular? Or all of it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Liordi


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    Can some one tell me how to do question 8? Thanks :)

    (i)
    x - 3y - 6 = 0
    Divide the whole line by three.
    1/3x - y - 6 = 0.
    Slope = 1/3.

    OR

    Let x = 0 let y = 0
    0 - 3y - 6 = 0 x - 3(0) - 6 = 0
    -3y = 6 x - 6 = 0
    y = -2 x = 6
    Point: (0, -2) Point: (6, 0)

    y2 - y1
    x2 - x1

    0 - (-2)
    6 - 0

    2/6 = 1/3

    (ii)
    Just sub it in.
    1 - 3(-2) - 6 = 0
    1 + 6 - 6 = 0
    1 =/= 0
    => The point (1, -2) isn't on the line.

    (iii)
    We know the point (1, -2) is on the line and as the line is parallel to the above line, m = 1/3.

    y - y1 = m (x - x1)
    y - (-2) = 1/3 (x - 1)
    To neutralize the fraction; we multiply by 3.
    3y + 6 = x - 1
    x - 3y - 7 = 0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ElmW13


    roisiny wrote: »
    Got up at 6:45 and learnt it this morning, even though my body was not impressed with six hours sleep ;)

    Same!!! For some weird reason I woke exactly an hour before my alarm was meant to go off... weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    Liordi wrote: »
    (i)
    x - 3y - 6 = 0
    Divide the whole line by three.
    1/3x - y - 6 = 0.
    Slope = 1/3.

    OR

    Let x = 0 let y = 0
    0 - 3y - 6 = 0 x - 3(0) - 6 = 0
    -3y = 6 x - 6 = 0
    y = -2 x = 6
    Point: (0, -2) Point: (6, 0)

    y2 - y1
    x2 - x1

    0 - (-2)
    6 - 0

    2/6 = 1/3

    (ii)
    Just sub it in.
    1 - 3(-2) - 6 = 0
    1 + 6 - 6 = 0
    1 =/= 0
    => The point (1, -2) isn't on the line.

    (iii)
    We know the point (1, -2) is on the line and as the line is parallel to the above line, m = 1/3.

    y - y1 = m (x - x1)
    y - (-2) = 1/3 (x - 1)
    To neutralize the fraction; we multiply by 3.
    3y + 6 = x - 1
    x - 3y - 7 = 0.

    Thanks so much!!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Anyone know the marking scheme? Or at least have an idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Can you get junior cert results online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭emersyn


    Anyone know the marking scheme? Or at least have an idea?

    To get a rough estimate multiply the time recommended for each question by 2, e.g. if it says to spend 10 minutes on a question it's generally about 20 marks. We won't know the exact marking scheme until September


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Caral


    I got 5.6m for the new height
    I got 1:8 for the ratio
    I got my angle to be 59 degrees.. Anyone else get these ... Did we actually have to use the frustrum formula? Its not on our course like...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Caral


    Liordi wrote: »
    Yeah.

    No 6.403 was your distance AB


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭mayway


    S_Hick12 wrote: »
    Is 0.875:1 the same as 7:8?

    Yes, it is.


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