Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

DM_7 · 09-06-2014 12:19PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Also I think what's being said about Shaw is nothing new.

I think all had worked out why Southampton arnt willing to sell Shaw at this point. I know I spoke about it while back.

No manager will come in there while players are being shipped out. Although I'd imagine when their manager does sign he will be told Shaw is going.

Obviously a new manager will want to keep him...but if the player has asked to leave don't see it going any other way.

It doesn't make sense to me, if Shaw is going then they should let him go before a new manger arrives, otherwise the new manager walks in and is left looking like he gave it the okay. If the people in charge want to sell him they should take responsibility for it.

beno619 · 09-06-2014 12:20PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Not sure why we'd turf out Carrick when he won our Players Poty last year?

It's in relation to a poster saying Welbeck is only in the England team because he plays for United.

Edit: think I took the original post the wrong way.

bucketybuck · 09-06-2014 12:20PM

TheDoc wrote: »

No manager will come in there while players are being shipped out. Although I'd imagine when their manager does sign he will be told Shaw is going.

Would it not be more logical then to sell Shaw before the new manager comes, rather than appointing a manager and then selling his best players?

RobertKK · 09-06-2014 12:20PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Muller to United looks like some leverage for a new contract.

lordgoat wrote: »

That was my first thought when I heard it. Can't see him leaving.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Is this the new thing now, Man Utd are used for contract leverage for every player... it's starting to get ****ing annoying.

The only difference is Thomas Muller has said that LVG is more than a normal coach-player relationship, Muller: "It is no secret that Louis van Gaal and I had a quite special coach-player relationship."

Close friends by all accounts, So if Muller is not given what he wants, maybe not this season, but I could see it next season presuming United are back in the champions league and Muller is still pissed off with Pep.

Muller: "I have now come to the point where I insist to know that I am part of the starting 11 at Bayern Munich.""I have also demanded to know if the club really want to go forward with me in the next few seasons.
“I am no longer the type who says, ‘OK then, today I will play in this role, next match in that role. Just move me about and I will keep my mouth shut’. No, those days are gone.’’

Thomas doesn't seem very happy...

DM_7 · 09-06-2014 12:24PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The only difference is Thomas Muller has said that LVG is more than a normal coach-player relationship, Muller: "It is no secret that Louis van Gaal and I had a quite special coach-player relationship."

Close friends by all accounts, So if Muller is not given what he wants, maybe not this season, but I could see it next season presuming United are back in the champions league and Muller is still pissed off with Pep.

Muller: "I have now come to the point where I insist to know that I am part of the starting 11 at Bayern Munich.""I have also demanded to know if the club really want to go forward with me in the next few seasons.
“I am no longer the type who says, ‘OK then, today I will play in this role, next match in that role. Just move me about and I will keep my mouth shut’. No, those days are gone.’’

Thomas doesn't seem very happy...

Or it seems like he wants a new contract, put on the big wages = important to the club going forward

Earlier reports were United asked about him and were told no. If a club looks for you it is a pretty good time to put pressure on for a new contract.

Cantona's Collars · 09-06-2014 12:27PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Not sure why we'd turf out Carrick when he won our Players Poty last year?

They must have held the vote in a pub.

Cantona's Collars · 09-06-2014 12:30PM

Marca really pushing the Sanchez to United story.

RobertKK · 09-06-2014 12:34PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Or it seems like he wants a new contract, put on the big wages = important to the club going forward

Earlier reports were United asked about him and were told no. If a club looks for you it is a pretty good time to put pressure on for a new contract.

That could very well be the case, but I wouldn't rule out LVG had a word with him either. They do talk to eachother as friends.

What is strange is the change in statements from Muller, he has gone from
"
I have a contract with Bayern Munich until summer 2017.
"I am really enjoying playing for Bayern.
"There really is nothing better than this." to "I have also demanded to know if the club really want to go forward with me in the next few seasons."

The full piece I posted above shows something has happened, it is either a better contract, or angling for a move.
Though he didn't seem to have a problem with his contract or playing position before - apart from playing time.
It does seem something concrete has happened to unsettle him.

tallaghtmick · 09-06-2014 12:35PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

What rules are being broken??? If you'd prefer to just live in peace and tranquillity where everything is perfect then fair enough, however most normal football fans can accept criticism of their team and players if it's justified. But you United fans with your "funny" pictures and replies just don't seem to be able to accept it. If Welbeck is good enough for you and for United then that's fair enough and good for the rest of us. I won't say anymore on the matter for fear of being embarrassed by another loltastic meme or gif.

Would you ever calm down and go back and do something something something darkside ffs it was a joke, your bad attitude and short temper is not wanted here.

RobertKK · 09-06-2014 12:36PM

zerks wrote: »

Marca really pushing the Sanchez to United story.

LVG likes Chilean players...

#WeWantVidal2

homerjay2005 · 09-06-2014 12:36PM

Al Capwned wrote: »

The fact that the BBC are reporting this would encourage me.....

a £30m deal for Shaw doenst encourage me at all. if priority meant that we'd only sign 3 players, then 2 midfielders and a center back would be on my list before a LB though i guess my faith in Evra is much higher than most of you on here.

my logic is very simple - as poor and all as we played last year, our defending was no worse than the year before and we conceded 43 goals last season, the exact same amount as we did when we walked the league the year before. the problems are at the other end or more to the point, through the middle of the pitch and a complete lack of creativity through there is killing us, especially when injuries set in to our key players.

last season we dropped alot of points in 1 goal defeats - Everton, West Brom, Newcastle, Stoke, Liverpool, Sunderland, with silly draws against Cardiff and Fulham.

one goal more in each of those games (not exactly a huge ask or stretch of the imagination for a club like us especially considering most of the points were dropped at home) would seen us finish 5th at least no matter how s*it we were in all the big games.

obviously Vidic and Rio need to be replaced but signing Shaw for that obscene money doesnt excite me at all when its not incorrect to say that it would mean less money is available to sort our other more problematic areas.

and i think evra will go and show he still is a class player and much better than alot of ye think he is, at the World Cup. Shaw can wait another season, as far as i am concerned.

Timmyctc · 09-06-2014 12:38PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Would you ever calm down and go back to your own teams thread ffs it was a joke, your bad attitude and short temper is not wanted here.

Houl on just one minute here. I went and wracked my hungover head for a list of players better suited to their positions than Welbeck .... for .... a Liverpool fan?

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 12:38PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Would you ever calm down and go back to your own teams thread ffs it was a joke, your bad attitude and short temper is not wanted here.

Isn't that against the rules?

FutureGuy · 09-06-2014 12:39PM

I'm loving this summer. I'm believing nothing that's being written about United transfers.

Anywhere.

No stress.

RobertKK · 09-06-2014 12:42PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm loving this summer. I'm believing nothing that's being written about United transfers.

Anywhere.

No stress.

Same here, after the initial May hype... - I like the rumours, adding to rumours, speculating, but I only believe when they are signed.

DM_7 · 09-06-2014 12:43PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and i think evra will go and show he still is a class player and much better than alot of ye think he is, at the World Cup. Shaw can wait another season, as far as i am concerned.

Evra is a class player but physically he struggles with the intensity over a full season now and it has a negative impact on his positioning and decision making. That is down to age and the physical effort he has put in with little rest over the last few seasons.

He has had weeks to prepare himself for the world cup so a good performance in it will only prove that is still a good player once he has time to rest and recover.

He should be better for United next season without UCL games so I see your point on Shaw.

09-06-2014 12:47PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Would you ever calm down and go back to your own teams thread ffs it was a joke, your bad attitude and short temper is not wanted here.

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Isn't that against the rules?

Good call Vinz, he should have used an apostrophe in 'teams'.

tallaghtmick · 09-06-2014 12:49PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Isn't that against the rules?

No idea but edited for your viewing pleasure.

Edit:

Checked the rules there can't see anything that says no telling posters to post elsewhere, if a mod could enlighten me that be awesome.

TheDoc · 09-06-2014 12:52PM

I know the holding onto Shaw until new manager arrives makes no sense, but it's a perception thing.

Southampton by their own accord are trying to attract an experienced manager. And no experienced manager would walk into a club ahead of watching all their star players being offloaded.

Lambert, Shaw, Lallana and Schneiderlen look all set to make way this summer. I think it's a simple perception thing on a number of fronts. I know it might not make sense, but I'm pretty sure why its happening.

The club didn't get a lot of heat selling Lambart for £4m. It's a deal that somewhat made sense and the club won't take flack for.

However if all these players go now, it's the boards/club/directors that will take the heat directly. They will have made the decision, and if things dont go well next season there will be hell to pay.

Hold onto these players, new manager comes in, and there is a bit of a deflect for the board. They can spin a number of yarns "The manager knew this transfer activity before arriving" all that sort of thing.

It gives everyone really "an excuse".

In reality it is just delaying the inevitable, as I'm sure if Southampton are interviewing experienced managers, those managers will be well wise to the fact Lallana, Shaw and Schneiderlen will most likely not be in their squad next season.

How Soon Is Now · 09-06-2014 01:17PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

No idea but edited for your viewing pleasure.

Edit:

Checked the rules there can't see anything that says no telling posters to post elsewhere, if a mod could enlighten me that be awesome.

I was yellow carded for it earlier in the year but ya i tend to pick these things up..... :pac:

tallaghtmick · 09-06-2014 01:21PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I was yellow carded for it earlier in the year but ya i tend to pick these things up..... :pac:

Well thats a ban for me so

dahat · 09-06-2014 01:21PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm loving this summer. I'm believing nothing that's being written about United transfers.

Anywhere.

No stress.

We aren't signing anyone.

Lucas Hood · 09-06-2014 01:22PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Well thats a ban for me so

MagicIRL · 09-06-2014 01:25PM

I too can confirm being carded for telling 'pool fans where to go in this thread.

RE: tallaghtmick

Tiiiimeee toooooooo, sayy gooooodbyeeeeeeee!

Cantona's Collars · 09-06-2014 01:26PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Well thats a ban for me so

Too late for a ninja edit?;)

Lord TSC · 09-06-2014 01:28PM

Kroos talk seems to be starting back up....

MagicIRL · 09-06-2014 01:34PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Kroos talk seems to be starting back up....

Kroos... Toni Kroos. T.K.

Tour... Kew Tour... K.T.

*Puts on thinking cap*

Toni Kroos not signing rumour after Toni Kroos signing rumour= :eek:
Kew Tour's post +

=

+

+ :eek: are all blue. TK backwards is KT. KT is Kew Tour.

HE KNOWSSSSSSSSSSSS!

tallaghtmick · 09-06-2014 01:39PM

zerks wrote: »

Too late for a ninja edit?;)

Nope sure I should know the rules I got carded for the troll one a few months ago, I think it's a month this time, enjoy the WC lads

NTMK · 09-06-2014 01:42PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Nope sure I should know the rules, I think it's a month this time, enjoy the WC lads

youre far to happy about this maybe you wanted a month off so you cant engage in the ****e in this thread

Im on to you :pac:

Mikeyt086 · 09-06-2014 01:45PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Isn't that against the rules?

Nobody cares. You could have just said you think Welbeck is **** and saved us all a lot of time.

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