Oculus Rift

lmimmfn · 09-05-2014 09:08PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I think the final consumer version is supposed to have a resolution even higher than 1080. I'd be tempted to get the DK2 if it wasn't for that fact.

Just to be clear DK2 isint really 1080p, its lower rez than the HD version they were demoing before Crystal Cove, DK2 is a pentile display, pixels are orientated in a diamond display, green pixels have a 1080p rez, but red and blue don't therefore its not really 1080p, its mobile tech BS, but it is OLED and with the FB acquisition they can afford their own custom screen.

Guaranteed CV1 will be 1440 but possibly pentile, I would only expect FB money to provide a screen for CV2. The screens cost billions in R&D and manufacturing equipment, and R&D time of course.

I wouldn't recommend any Dev kit to a regular consumer, there's a lot of fiddling with display setups to get the optimal experience and there's a lack of full title support. There's great demos but its not there yet and won't be for a while for hard core gamers

AlmightyCushion · 09-05-2014 10:03PM

lmimmfn wrote: »

Just to be clear DK2 isint really 1080p, its lower rez than the HD version they were demoing before Crystal Cove, DK2 is a pentile display, pixels are orientated in a diamond display, green pixels have a 1080p rez, but red and blue don't therefore its not really 1080p, its mobile tech BS, but it is OLED and with the FB acquisition they can afford their own custom screen.

Guaranteed CV1 will be 1440 but possibly pentile, I would only expect FB money to provide a screen for CV2. The screens cost billions in R&D and manufacturing equipment, and R&D time of course.

I wouldn't recommend any Dev kit to a regular consumer, there's a lot of fiddling with display setups to get the optimal experience and there's a lack of full title support. There's great demos but its not there yet and won't be for a while for hard core gamers

They're not going to be making the screens themselves, they'd bleed money if they tried that. They'll just buy the screens from Samsung, LG, Sony or one of the other few screen manufacturers.

Brian · 09-05-2014 10:16PM

Yeah, I don't believe FB's money will be a direct cause of screen development. The big Asian conglomerates have years and years of money and R+D put into screens already, a couple of billion probably isn't going to suddenly prompt a dramatic increase in screen performance over what's available now. Another concern is that the priorities for these manufacturers' main market (smartphones) aren't quite the same as VR because the use cases are so different. A smartphone display doesn't require a high refresh rate or tightly packed pixels, it mainly just needs to be clear, bright, and have good viewing angles. The VR market will take some time before it's lucrative enough to have its display demands considered as important as those of smartphones in the eyes of display manufacturers.

AlmightyCushion · 09-05-2014 10:23PM

Brian wrote: »

Yeah, I don't believe FB's money will be a direct cause of screen development. The big Asian conglomerates have years and years of money and R+D put into screens already, a couple of billion probably isn't going to suddenly prompt a dramatic increase in screen performance over what's available now. Another concern is that the priorities for these manufacturers' main market (smartphones) aren't quite the same as VR because the use cases are so different. A smartphone display doesn't require a high refresh rate or tightly packed pixels, it mainly just needs to be clear, bright, and have good viewing angles. The VR market will take some time before it's lucrative enough to have its display demands considered as important as those of smartphones in the eyes of display manufacturers.

High refresh rate maybe but smartphone manufacturers have been pumping up the PPI of their screens over the past couple of years. There are phones coming out soon with 5.5" screens with a 1440P resolution, that's about 540PPI.

Brian · 09-05-2014 10:25PM

I wasn't referring to pixel density, but pixel fill factor.

http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/details-on-new-display-for-developer-kits/

Fill factor isn't a concern in smartphone displays because of the operating distance ameliorating the screen-door effect.

lmimmfn · 09-05-2014 10:44PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

They're not going to be making the screens themselves, they'd bleed money if they tried that. They'll just buy the screens from Samsung, LG, Sony or one of the other few screen manufacturers.

Palmer himself said it, the FB deal means they dont have to rely on scraps from the mobile industry. Theyre not going to setup a whole manufacturing process etc. but i guess they can have custom screens comissioned.

Baked.noodle · 19-05-2014 05:16PM

Chinese Developed Oculus Rift Competitor Hit Kickstarter

Kickstarter link

Yeti Beast · 21-05-2014 08:25PM

ZeniMax have filed an official lawsuit against Oculus today. I can't link to the article on PC Gamer, but I assume it'll pop up on other sites soon enough. Hopefully it'll be resolved quickly enough - I imagine Oculus can afford some rather good legal representation these days!

Lu Tze · 21-05-2014 08:29PM

Surprised they havent integrated two forward facing cameras in the new dev kit, there is the potential for augmented reality games, even if it is just playing street fighter on your kitchen table instead of the typical background!

Skerries · 29-05-2014 10:20AM

Lu Tze wrote: »

Surprised they havent integrated two forward facing cameras in the new dev kit, there is the potential for augmented reality games, even if it is just playing street fighter on your kitchen table instead of the typical background!

ssshhh! they might make a DK3 with that before we get the commercial version

Thargor · 29-05-2014 10:43AM

Can a mod please capitalise the words Oculus and Rift in the thread title please? (Sorry)

Jerichoholic · 29-05-2014 11:21PM

Half Life 2 has been updated to include the Rift's IPD settings. Is there a way to change the control setup to make it more like Skyrim. I mean locking the crosshair to head tracking and moving your torso with the right analogue. It's still making me very sick the way they have it now. It's horrible.

jumbobreakfast · 29-05-2014 11:48PM

I don't know if this is out of date or not but you could try the different settings for "vr_moveaim_mode" convar listed here:

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Oculus_Rift_User_Guide

Yeti Beast · 31-05-2014 12:35AM

So Samsung are teaming up with Oculus to develop their own VR headset (which will be aimed at smart phone users and will not be a rival to Oculus' own gaming headset). According to Engadget, Oculus will give Samsung early access to their mobile software dev kit. In return, Samsung will give Oculus early access to their next-gen OLED screens. And Engadget's sources reckon these screens will be higher resolution than 1080p.

ScumLord · 31-05-2014 12:41AM

That's more along the lines of what you want to see Oculus do.

jumbobreakfast · 31-05-2014 01:17AM

That deal makes sense alright. There are others doing this with mobiles too:

https://www.durovis.com/dive.html
http://www.vrase.com/

C14N · 31-05-2014 10:52AM

Yeti Beast wrote: »

So Samsung are teaming up with Oculus to develop their own VR headset (which will be aimed at smart phone users and will not be a rival to Oculus' own gaming headset). According to Engadget, Oculus will give Samsung early access to their mobile software dev kit. In return, Samsung will give Oculus early access to their next-gen OLED screens. And Engadget's sources reckon these screens will be higher resolution than 1080p.

I'd say they are. I mean even consumer phones all have 1080p now at the upper end, with Samsung's R&D it wouldn't surprise me at all if prototypes can already go higher than that.

rd1izb7lvpuksx · 31-05-2014 11:23AM

C14N wrote: »

I'd say they are. I mean even consumer phones all have 1080p now at the upper end, with Samsung's R&D it wouldn't surprise me at all if prototypes can already go higher than that.

The announced LG G3 has a 2,560 x 1,440 5.5 inch screen, which is 538 ppi.

Yeti Beast · 03-06-2014 01:39PM

Valve recently gave a sneak-peak of their own headset at some VR event in Boston.

It's interesting that they're still working on it - back in January they said they wanted to help Oculus bring PC gaming forward by working with them, but that was before the FB buyout. Valve have also lost a few of their top tech guys to Oculus since then too. Is it still just an in-house tech experiment?

Dyr · 03-06-2014 01:40PM

Yeti Beast wrote: »

Valve recently gave a sneak-peak of their own headset at some VR event in Boston.

It's interesting that they're still working on it - back in January they said they wanted to help Oculus bring PC gaming forward by working with them, but that was before the FB buyout. Valve have also lost a few of their top tech guys to Oculus since then too. Is it still just an in-house tech experiment?

they had previously said that it was too expensive to bring to market, dunno if thats changed

Tar.Aldarion · 03-06-2014 04:03PM

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/3/5774892/valves-experimental-dota-2-virtual-reality-experiences-lets-users

wow

Wossack · 04-06-2014 09:21AM

very cool

the description of the tabletop overview reminds me of that psychonauts level

Doge · 04-06-2014 02:11PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/3/5774892/valves-experimental-dota-2-virtual-reality-experiences-lets-users

wow

Their website is down! What's the article about?

Tar.Aldarion · 04-06-2014 02:13PM

Basically with valves VR you could spectate a game of dota as a tabletop game. So you would be looking at the action happen from above but you could bend down and look at any aspect of the game that was happening closer. Which would be cool for cs and cod etc too.

Dyr · 04-06-2014 02:13PM

waveform wrote: »

Their website is down! What's the article about?

Gaben has created a metaverse in which we can all live so long as we run steam OS

xtal191 · 05-06-2014 04:27PM

Apologies if already posted

Rossin · 06-06-2014 07:10AM

ah man i really need to try this!

jumbobreakfast · 06-06-2014 12:39PM

Looks awesome, I couldn't stand listening to the reviewer though so I had to turn it off. That's going on my list of things to try when I get my DK2.

btw for people awaiting their DK2. Some guy on the Elite Dangerous forums emailed Oculus because he was moving house and wouldn't be at his new location until July 10th (UK). They told him that it was ok because they didnt expect to begin shipping internationally before then. So it's realistic to expect your DK2 towards the end of July.

Jerichoholic · 06-06-2014 04:23PM

Just tried that Opera thing now. Holy Smokes! That's the best VR so far, by a long way.

Squidwert · 06-06-2014 08:34PM

jumbobreakfast wrote: »

So it's realistic to expect your DK2 towards the end of July.

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