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Which Recession Was Worse?

  • 05-06-2014 06:35PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭


    Sorry if there is already a thread on this. I did a quick search and I couldn't find one.

    Just wondering what people think is the worse recession, the 1980's-early 90's or the 2000's to now?

    It does seem things are picking up, albeit it slowly.

    Anyway, to those who lived through both, what one do yee think is worse?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    1932 im only getting over it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    1879 hands down. Potatoes wouldn't even grow, let alone the economy. Well, the export market was doing ok. Actually, aren't exports also doing great this time around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    1849 tut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    Obviously the eighties.
    Not only did we have no money, we also had to go around in courduroy trousers and parka's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    The great one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭chops018


    keith16 wrote: »
    1879 hands down. Potatoes wouldn't even grow, let alone the economy. Well, the export market was doing ok. Actually, aren't exports also doing great this time around?

    Very good.

    And tell me, please, from your personal experiences of this era, was it hard for you to get work back then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    And we also had a recession in the 1970's, the 1950's the 1930's.Add the 1990's and the 2010's that every 20 years.

    By gum I think I've stumbled on something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    The 80s was much worse.
    Living standards for the poor and unemployed were much worse than now. Emigration was higher (I think). People just could not afford the things that are now taken for granted.
    And the weather was brutal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    chops018 wrote: »
    Sorry if there is already a thread on this. I did a quick search and I couldn't find one.

    Just wondering what people think is the worse recession, the 1980's-early 90's or the 2000's to now?

    It does seem things are picking up, albeit it slowly.

    Anyway, to those who lived through both, what one do yee think is worse?

    I think in general the current one is worse as people didn't have as much debt back in the 1980's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    This 1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    This one.
    In the 80's people were just skint,this time around people are skint but up to their tits in debt aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    The 1980s were worse by far. Firstly we went from having very little to having nothing. We had no boom before it , so had no reserves whatsoever to fall back on. Inflation was high and interest rates were through the roof. It went on longer as well. Unemployment was higher than at present and there was no minimum wage. That was an era I certainly do not want to see again and will certainly never forget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    The 1980s were worse by far. Firstly we went from having very little to having nothing. We had no boom before it , so had no reserves whatsoever to fall back on. Inflation was high and interest rates were through the roof. It went on longer as well. Unemployment was higher than at present and there was no minimum wage. That was an era I certainly do not want to see again and will certainly never forget.

    Also the Troubles were festering on, one atrocity following another. Anne Lovatt. The abortion referendum. It was a depressing time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    This is my first one, probably rate it about a 6/10, but that number is artificially inflated because I loaned out too many 10/10 votes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    This one.
    In the 80's people were just skint,this time around people are skint but up to their tits in debt aswell.

    And the reason people weren't in debt was because they didn't buy what they couldn't afford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Chucken wrote: »
    And the reason people weren't in debt was because they didn't buy what they couldn't afford.

    Whats done is done.
    Back then the credit wasn't available or being pushed on people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Whats done is done.
    Back then the credit wasn't available or being pushed on people.

    I bought my house in 1983 at the grand old age of 19. We had the common sense not to spend more than we could afford to pay back. I remember the bank manager asking if we needed extra to buy furniture and we said no. We got 2nd hand stuff and were delighted with it.

    I'll never understand people blaming others for "pushing" money at them :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    Whats done is done.
    Back then the credit wasn't available or being pushed on people.

    Rod Liddle (ex BBC Today editor, Spectator columnist and generally grumpy git) has a book out that,among its many splenetic points, alleges that the generation that became adults in the eighties (me) are responsble for the mess we're currently in because we were the first to benefit from credit cards and term loans to get stuff we couldn't afford


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'd rather be a kid now than going back to being a kid in the 80s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Chucken wrote: »
    And the reason people weren't in debt was because they didn't buy what they couldn't afford.

    And the recession came off a period when nobody would give the average Joe credit anyway. Hence we had nothing, I see people every day who are up to their tonsils in debt and suffering from this recession but they still have mobile phones, cars, internet, sky TV, etc but in the 80s a phone in the house was a luxury. As was a car, central heating, or many other items considered must haves today. I saw my kids sleeping under piles of overcoats in winter to keep warm, ice on the inside of the bedroom windows in the morning and having to walk or cycle everywhere because we were broke.

    I know, I know, tell that to the kids today....blah blah...we lived in a paper bag in the middle m
    of a sceptic tank...blah.

    But unfortunately that was the reality of it - and I was lucky enough to have a job!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    I'd rather be a kid now than going back to being a kid in the 80s

    Another thing is that, at least from 1980 to 1986, there seemed to be a real chance that we'd all be either vaporised, die of of radiation poisoning or survive in a post industrial dystopian nightmare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Anonamoose


    Was there a recession.... I hadn't noticed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    cml387 wrote: »
    Another thing is that, at least from 1980 to 1986, there seemed to be a real chance that we'd all be either vaporised, die of of radiation poisoning or survive in a post industrial dystopian nightmare.

    I was working in Shannon around that time and I remember being genuinely frightened that it would be one of the 1st places to get kaboomed if it happened.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    There was in fact no recession ( bar a year) in the 80's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    Recession is a state of mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Recession is a state of mind.

    That and two quarters of negative growth in GDP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Anonamoose


    I've made a killing selling water meters.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Recession is a state of mind.

    A recession is when you loose your job.

    A depression is when I loose mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    There was in fact no recession ( bar a year) in the 80's


    Strangely enough....that's true. Technically GNP grew in all but 1 year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    cml387 wrote: »
    Obviously the eighties.
    Not only did we have no money, we also had to go around in courduroy trousers and parka's.

    Great music though! Like Stock Aitken and Waterman!


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