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Alexander Shulgin, 'Godfather of ecstasy', dies aged 88

  • 03-06-2014 05:18PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    The chemical scientist who reinvented the popular party drug ecstasy has died at the age of 88 from liver cancer.

    Alexander Shulgin earned his nickname, the Godfather of ecstasy, after honing a way to make the drug - and testing it out on himself to check it had worked.

    A Facebook post by his wife and research partner, Ann, said he died "surrounded by family and caretakers and Buddhist meditation music".

    He lived out his final years at his home in Northern California.

    'The Godfather'
    Shulgin began his study of organic chemistry at Harvard University in his teens and, after a stint in the US Navy during World War Two, returned to Berkeley to get his PhD in biochemistry at the University of California.

    In his early working career, he joined Dow Chemical Company and, while there, developed the world's first biodegradable pesticide.

    But it was while he was pursuing his own research that he began experimenting with psychoactive compounds.


    He tested out his new creations on himself, inviting small groups of friends to join him in the tasting sessions.

    During the swinging '60s, he says he made and tested hundreds of concoctions.

    In 1965, he parted company with Dow, but continued his studies and began teaching classes at local universities.

    Ecstasy
    Nearly a decade later, he came across a compound closely related to what we now call ecstasy or MDMA.

    MDMA had been previously synthesised and patented in 1912 by the pharmaceutical company Merck, but was never fully explored within humans.

    Shulgin decided to start human trials - again, starting with himself.

    Once he had fine-tuned his recipe, he introduced the chemical to a psychologist from Oakland called Leo Zeff.

    And Zeff introduced Shulgin to a lay therapist called Ann, who later became Shulgin's wife.

    Zeff used small doses of the substance in his practice as an aid to talk therapy, and introduced it to hundreds of psychologists across the nation.

    Clubbers have been known to use ecstasy so they can dance for hours. In some cases, people have died from taking ecstasy.

    The drugs advice charity Frank says a big problem with ecstasy is that it's rarely pure.

    "Regardless of what it looks like and what it is called, you can't be sure what's in a pill or a powder and you can't predict how you'll react," it advises.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27676669

    Ok Godfather of ecstasy has died, should he rave in heaven or rot in hell ?



    Tried it myself a few times years ago , I was quite happy with the experience ,rave in heaven I say....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Rave in peace dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The guy was a legend.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,060 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Never have and never will take ecstasy, but I commend his lifetime achievements. RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Drugs kill obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 613 ✭✭✭rodge68


    RIP......Fair play to him for turning boring nights into great nights (well in my mind anyway)...downside my jaws used to kill me for days afterwards !!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭VenomousFish


    great chemist. rip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    realies wrote: »
    A Facebook post by his wife and research partner, Ann, said he died "surrounded by family and caretakers and pounding, pounding techno music".
    The father of an entire music scene too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    We'll see all the scummers out in force for this thread. The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths. Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭jiminho


    I doubt the guy foresaw it being used as a party drug. 88 is a ripe old age, fair play to him on his accomplishments and RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    kneemos wrote: »
    Drugs kill obviously.

    Years ago my father told me in no uncertain terms not to smoke, his grandfather had smoked before him and his father after that. Both of them had contracted cancer and it was as a direct result of smoking apparently. For years this frustrated me as smoking always seemed so enjoyable, my father however lived a full healthy life not contracting cancer having not smoked so clearly it wasn't heridatery.

    I know this seems off the point but I guess what I'm trying to say is, I wish I had started smoking because that post gave me cancer anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    So long sweet prince, you did good!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    realies wrote: »
    The chemical scientist who reinvented the popular party drug ecstasy has died at the age of 88 from liver cancer.

    Alexander Shulgin earned his nickname, the Godfather of ecstasy, after honing a way to make the drug - and testing it out on himself to check it had worked.

    A Facebook post by his wife and research partner, Ann, said he died "surrounded by family and caretakers and Buddhist meditation music by ravers with glowsticks and whistles".

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    kneemos wrote: »
    Drugs kill obviously.

    There was a guy living up the road from me who was killed by drugs. He was working in a pharmacy supply depot and a big crate of paracetamol fell off a forklift and killed him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    We'll see all the scummers out in force for this thread. The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths. Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.

    Chill out man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    He hated the rave scene and though it should just be used in psychology. RIP dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    kneemos wrote: »
    Drugs kill obviously.

    Life kills...
    Schwiiing wrote: »
    We'll see all the scummers out in force for this thread. The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths. Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.

    You do know there are more people addicted to prescription drugs than anything else right? Which is legal, but kills. Do you have sympathy for them because government says their drug is OK? What I'm trying to say, is your post is stupid, so stupid that I can't imagine anyone with their wits about them to have said it.

    And Ecstasy in it's purer forms is relatively harmless.... I'm not someone who takes it, it's not for me, the hangover is too bad, but to judge those that do.... man four letter words describe you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    Life kills...



    You do know there are more people addicted to prescription drugs than anything else right? Which is legal, but kills. Do you have sympathy for them because government says their drug is OK? What I'm trying to say, is your post is stupid, so stupid that I can't imagine anyone with their wits about them to have said it.

    It's an odd coincidence but one that appears all too often in that the staunch anti drugs brigade are so vehemently against drugs that they come out with quite possibly the stupidest statements I've ever read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Man if i could come into a thread and not be called a "scummer" I would be so happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    We'll see all the scummers out in force for this thread. The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths. Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.

    And the most clueless post of the day award goes to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Life kills...



    You do know there are more people addicted to prescription drugs than anything else right? Which is legal, but kills. Do you have sympathy for them because government says their drug is OK? What I'm trying to say, is your post is stupid, so stupid that I can't imagine anyone with their wits about them to have said it.

    And Ecstasy in it's purer forms is relatively harmless.... I'm not someone who takes it, it's not for me, the hangover is too bad, but to judge those that do.... man four letter words describe you :)

    So two wrongs do indeed make a right.Seems to be the stock argument amongst drug users.Sure alcohol is legal...whaa whaa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭VenomousFish


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    We'll see all the scummers out in force for this thread. The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths. Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.
    :rolleyes:
    Only if you count Mexacarbate! Most deaths caused by illegal drugs are a result of deliberate mislabeling of drugs, NBOMe as LSD for example. Shulgin is hardly responsible for people trying to make a quick buck selling research chemicals to uneducated teens by claiming it to be a chemical he original synthesized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭VenomousFish


    kneemos wrote: »
    So two wrongs do indeed make a right.Seems to be the stock argument amongst drug users.Sure alcohol is legal...whaa whaa.
    You add "whaa whaa" to the argument, yet you make no attempt to refute it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You add "whaa whaa" to the argument, yet you make no attempt to discredit it?

    Discredit what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I remember back in 2008 when Hoffman kissed the sky the streets were awash. Good year ahead for pill heads me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    The man is responsible for an inordinate amount of needless deaths.
    Jaysus, so what do you think about Arthur Guinness & Mr Smirnov/smirnoff so? they must be appear worse than Hitler to you.

    There are very few deaths from ecstasy relative to its massive user base, this is why many doctors would call for its legalization, a very safe track record. One of the most famous deaths Leah Betts was manslaughter by the media propaganda, not the actual drug, their sensationalist stories led her to overdose on water.
    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Although I have no sympathy for anyone who dies from taking illegal drugs. They're no loss to society.
    Is it just the legality issue that bothers you? If a friend of yours died walking home drunk after being hit by a car after illegally drinking in a lock-in after hours would you also have no sympathy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    RIP, a great man for his achievements. I've never taken ecstasy but in a secure setting with an unadulterated supply it worked miracles in achieving psychological breakthroughs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    rubadub wrote: »
    Jaysus, so what do you think about Arthur Guinness & Mr Smirnov/smirnoff so? they must be appear worse than Hitler to you.

    There are very few deaths from ecstasy relative to its massive user base, this is why many doctors would call for its legalization, a very safe track record. One of the most famous deaths Leah Betts was manslaughter by the media propaganda, not the actual drug, their sensationalist stories led her to overdose on water.

    Is it just the legality issue that bothers you? If a friend of yours died walking home drunk after being hit by a car after illegally drinking in a lock-in after hours would you also have no sympathy?

    More people are hypersensitive to caffeine. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    They're no loss to society.

    Kurt Cobain
    Amy Winehouse
    David Bowie
    Syd Barrett
    Neil Young
    George Harrison
    Brian Wilson
    Brian Jones
    John Lennon

    no loss what so ever. (and thats of the top of my head)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    If he is not a fan of any of those artists he might have listened to something else on an ipod,

    “Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.” -Steve Jobs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    They're no loss to society.

    Kurt Cobain
    Amy Winehouse
    David Bowie
    Syd Barrett
    Neil Young
    George Harrison
    Brian Wilson
    Brian Jones
    John Lennon

    no loss what so ever. (and thats of the top of my head)


    Someone better tell David Bowie he is dead :-)


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