Tax Changes under a Sinn Féin Government

30-05-2014 11:02PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

When your bit gets to be a huge amount of your income, why bother working so hard? Get and easier job, earn less (but take home the same) ,enjoy life more.

Do you get how marginal tax rates work?

Uriel. · 30-05-2014 11:03PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

As does everyone. In fairness I don't think their spending is significantly more than a lot of people.

So you're saying "the rich" don't spend more?

Hmmm they sspend the same as everyone else and Bury the rest is it? Interesting.

bumper234 · 30-05-2014 11:06PM

michael999999 wrote: »

I thought British soldiers didn't show fear?

Am no longer a serving member of her majesties armed forces

awec · 30-05-2014 11:06PM

All this will achieve is to encourage successful people to leave Ireland. Increasing an already too high tax rate is madness.

Why stay here and get robbed by the revenue?

100k a year is not a rich person. These people are already hammered every month by the tax man.

Toby Take a Bow · 30-05-2014 11:06PM

Uriel. wrote: »

So you're saying "the rich" don't spend more?

Hmmm they sspend the same as everyone else and Bury the rest is it? Interesting.

The rich would spend more, but there aren't as many rich as poor. But I don't know what actual amounts they pay.

Tail Docker · 30-05-2014 11:07PM

Uriel. wrote: »

So you're saying "the rich" don't spend more?

Hmmm they sspend the same as everyone else and Bury the rest is it? Interesting.

Most of the rich I know pay little or no tax. I count stupidly wealthy family members in this, one of whom used to be a tax-inspector. They spend sweet-felicity-arkwright in Ireland btw, IMO, obviously.

Mean as shyte tends to be the way to get there. If your idea of someone who is really rich is someone paying prsi and on a salary that is taxable, then you have no idea what you are talking about and ought to stfu.

Young Blood · 30-05-2014 11:08PM

awec wrote: »

All this will achieve is to encourage successful people to leave Ireland. Increasing an already too high tax rate is madness.

I'm sure there are plenty of graduates who would be willing to take places

awec · 30-05-2014 11:10PM

Young Blood wrote: »

I'm sure there are plenty of graduates who would be willing to take places

How many graduates are going to walk in to 100k+ a year jobs?

30-05-2014 11:11PM

Uriel. wrote: »

So you're saying "the rich" don't spend more?

Hmmm they sspend the same as everyone else and Bury the rest is it? Interesting.

Even before accounting for the tricks they can use to avoid taxes, they're likely to spend a lower proportion of their income. Also they're more likely to buy high-priced imports such as cars and holidays.

Karl Stein · 30-05-2014 11:11PM

awec wrote: »

All this will achieve is to encourage successful people to leave Ireland.

Is that why places like Somalia have boat loads of refugees from Denmark and Sweden?

steddyeddy · 30-05-2014 11:12PM

Uriel. wrote: »

So you're saying "the rich" don't spend more?

Hmmm they sspend the same as everyone else and Bury the rest is it? Interesting.

No they certainly spend more. The total amount of VAT paid by most people would certainly come close to that if not surpass it though.

Fratton Fred · 30-05-2014 11:12PM

michael999999 wrote: »

As opposed to the taxing of the low paid to pay off the bankers and Bertie aherns developer mates and fund Mary hanafins four pensions?

Ya you carry on supporting fianna fail and there wonderful monetary policy's!

The lower paid are, proportionately, taxed lower already.

Middle income workers on €40 to €65k are the ones getting hammered.

Phoebas · 30-05-2014 11:12PM

Young Blood wrote: »

I'm sure there are plenty of graduates who would be willing to take places

Replacing successful people with graduates doesn't seem like a great idea.

Young Blood · 30-05-2014 11:13PM

awec wrote: »

How many graduates are going to walk in to 100k+ a year jobs?

Very few, but I'm sure there are no shortage of people who would fill the void. Afterall, there are people currently working in this country practically for free for people who make well in excess of a 100k a year.

30-05-2014 11:13PM

I cant wait for sein finn to get a huge majority....
get into government.

and when they do, i give them about 6 weeks before they completely bankrupt us.
no public servants will be paid,
so no prison officers,
no guards,
no dept of social welfare staff
no public servants whatsoever!!!!!

sein finn have the worst finance portfolio ever.
let them in.
lets see what we get!!

michael999999 · 30-05-2014 11:13PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The lower paid are, proportionately, taxed lower already.

Middle income workers on €40 to €65k are the ones getting hammered.

And who introduced that tax policy?

michael999999 · 30-05-2014 11:14PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I cant wait for sein finn to get a huge majority....
get into government.

and when they do, i give them about 6 weeks before they completely bankrupt us.
no public servants will be paid,
so no prison officers,
no guards,
no dept of social welfare staff
no public servants whatsoever!!!!!

sein finn have the worst finance portfolio ever.
let them in.
lets see what we get!!

Fianna fail?

steddyeddy · 30-05-2014 11:16PM

I think most graduates leave Ireland because they can't get successful here in the first place.

Young Blood · 30-05-2014 11:16PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Replacing successful people with graduates doesn't seem like a great idea.

Don't you mean wealthy?

Banjo String · 30-05-2014 11:17PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Don't you get it yet?

I think I do actually.

bumper234 wrote: »

People are not excited about sinn fein getting into power people are AFRAID of sinn fein getting into power.

Boy have you nailed it. Just replace "people" with the current elite, and those before.

Ever look up insanity on Wikipedia?

Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.

http://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Insanity

awec · 30-05-2014 11:17PM

Young Blood wrote: »

Very few, but I'm sure there are no shortage of people who would fill the void. Afterall, there are people currently working in this country practically for free for people who make well in excess of a 100k a year.

Nonsense.

Maybe we should hike taxes on low earners - I'm sure there are a lot more people able and capable to take those jobs when the low earners head elsewhere.

Karl Stein · 30-05-2014 11:17PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The lower paid are, proportionately, taxed lower already.

On income. When you include VAT and other flat rate charges they're taxed fairly well.

Middle income workers on €40 to €65k are the ones getting hammered.

That's true but its only an argument for making those who benefit most from the economy pay in relation to their means.

The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state. The expense of government to the individuals of a great nation is like the expense of management to the joint tenants of a great estate, who are all obliged to contribute in proportion to their respective interests in the estate.

Adam Smith
Wealth of Nations

Renegade Mechanic · 30-05-2014 11:18PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Don't you get it yet?

People are not excited about sinn fein getting into power people are AFRAID of sinn fein getting into power.

Exactly. If you have the bare faced cheek to venture very far past the breadline, you're in for a hell of a wake up call.

Fratton Fred · 30-05-2014 11:18PM

michael999999 wrote: »

And who introduced that tax policy?

It's pretty much the standard way of taxation, but it's the FF USC that is really hurting.

The One Doctor · 30-05-2014 11:19PM

Sinn Fein have no concept of reality. Populist propagandists with ne'er a jot of intelligence.

Young Blood · 30-05-2014 11:20PM

awec wrote: »

Nonsense.

Maybe we should hike taxes on low earners - I'm sure there are a lot more people able and capable to take those jobs when the low earners head elsewhere.

Haven't you heard of job bridge yet? The government has pretty much created an entire new 'slave' class of people. Graduates bought and sold at markets by an arrogant elite of employers.

Banjo String · 30-05-2014 11:21PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I cant wait for sein finn to get a huge majority....
get into government.

and when they do, i give them about 6 weeks before they completely bankrupt us.
no public servants will be paid,
so no prison officers,
no guards,
no dept of social welfare staff
no public servants whatsoever!!!!!

sein finn have the worst finance portfolio ever.
let them in.
lets see what we get!!

Aren't you a Garda?

Strange outlook tbh.

Tail Docker · 30-05-2014 11:23PM

Banjo String wrote: »

Aren't you a Garda?

Strange outlook tbh.

Behave youself now K - you'll get a load of tickets as your thanks. :P

30-05-2014 11:23PM

Banjo String wrote: »

Aren't you a Garda?

Strange outlook tbh.

how this this strange?

drdidlittle · 30-05-2014 11:25PM

ote="Buttonftw;90625320"]Evenbefore accounting for the 30tricks they can use to avoid taxes, they're likely to spend a lower proportion of their income. Also they're more likely to buy high-priced imports such as cars and holidays.[/quote]

10 percent of 100k is still 10 thousand. 20 percent of 30k is only 6k. Its all in the maths

Tax Changes under a Sinn Féin Government

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