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Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 941 ✭✭✭yomtea98


    Arsene Wenger has agreed a new three-year deal to remain as Arsenal manager until 2017.
    That's six points next season anyway lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    It also doesn't really matter where he has played nationally. Maybe Ecuador have even worse central midfielders than we do.

    We have also seen his close control, his ability to work in tight spaces, his passing, his creativity and his ability to beat a man with a bit of skill. NONE of it is acceptable for a central midfielder at United. If Valencia becomes a CM for us, it will be a sign that United are done.

    Im not disagreeing with you but I would still like to see how he does at the world cup if he does indeed play centrally.

    Kagawa is a ****e winger and once upon a time Valencia was player of the year at United. The article I linked mentions Valencia and Christian Benitez were very close, that could be one explanation for his loss of form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    beno619 wrote: »
    Im not disagreeing with you but I would still like to see how he does at the world cup if he does indeed play centrally.

    Kagawa is a ****e winger and once upon a time Valencia was player of the year at United. The article I linked mentions Valencia and Christian Benitez were very close, that could be one explanation for his loss of form.


    Not rediscovering his 2011 form after breaking his leg would be more likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,453 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Not rediscovering his 2011 form after breaking his leg would be more likely.

    His best form and season where he swooped all the club awards came after that injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    His best form and season where he swooped all the club awards came after that injury.

    Thought that myself. He was immense that season. Rooney scored some amount of headers that year from pinpoint headers supplied by Valencia.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    Was his best season before or after he got the number 7 jersey? Wasn't he saying he felt too much pressure wearing it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Was his best season before or after he got the number 7 jersey? Wasn't he saying he felt too much pressure wearing it?

    The most post hoc excuse of all time IMO.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Was his best season before or after he got the number 7 jersey? Wasn't he saying he felt too much pressure wearing it?

    Before. If I remember right...

    He got badly hurt.
    He came back and had the season where he cleaned up the awards.
    He played the next season as No.7 which was rewarded to him after his great season. He was awful.
    Then this season just gone.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Quite a few sources in Spain saying us and Barca are after Koke, but Barca will only pay 30m for him and we're willing to pay the 60m buyout clause.

    Is he really that good?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    Quite a few sources in Spain saying us and Barca are after Koke, but Barca will only pay 30m for him and we're willing to pay the 60m buyout clause.

    Is he really that good?

    probably not. never seen him play but he surely cant be worth 60 ****ing million


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    Its a shame how quick he changed, I remember the Blackburn game and he was immense, he scored to put us 1-0 when they were playing 10 in defence.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    NTMK wrote: »
    probably not. never seen him play but he surely cant be worth 60 ****ing million

    Cant say I've seen him play either, but I'd imagine there'd be expectations of instant success at that price tag, given how people were so up in arms about Fellaini...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Rubber_Soul


    Oh yay, another Spanish release clause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Oh yay, another Spanish release clause.

    I think buyout clauses are a legal requirement in Spain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Rubber_Soul


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I think buyout clauses are a legal requirement in Spain.

    I know, I meant another Summer of people explaining the tax situation when foreign clubs are attempting to activate them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Rafael played centre midfield for united so did phil Neville, yaya toure started as a striker so did Ashley cole, bale started out left back.... Valencia plays out wide every game for united and Ecuador.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭KombuchaMshroom


    Why are people even discussing whether or not Valencia has or hasn't played in center midfield? I thought we all long ago agreed that all he has left are his pace and speed, and that he has no creativity, extremely limited technical ability or ability to make any quick or clever passing.

    If these flaws are so blatantly apparent out on the wing why in gods name would we want to put him into the center where those problems will be highlighted ten-fold. Besides, we already have Carrick and Cleverley, with don't need another man in the middle who provides absolute zero to the team in an attacking sense!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    bangkok wrote: »
    Valencia plays out wide every game for united and Ecuador.

    He doesn't, he has 100% definitely played CM for Ecuador a good few times 100%

    Stop being so adamant when you're so blatantly wrong.

    Oh, actually, you're the Reus in CM guy aren't you? bit of a blind spot for that position, clearly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    bangkok wrote: »
    Rafael played centre midfield for united so did phil Neville, yaya toure started as a striker so did Ashley cole, bale started out left back.... Valencia plays out wide every game for united and Ecuador.

    What a totally Ridiculous post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Adolescenteen


    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/30/manchester-united-luke-shaw-world-cup-deadline-southampton?CMP=twt_gu

    Jamie Jackson saying that United are hoping to get the Shaw deal done before the England squad head off to Brazil next week. Seems Southampton want £30m.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    He doesn't, he has 100% definitely played CM for Ecuador a good few times 100%

    Stop being so adamant when you're so blatantly wrong.

    Oh, actually, you're the Reus in CM guy aren't you? bit of a blind spot for that position, clearly.


    yea the same blind spot that man utd have had since keane retired

    yes but the other 99% of time he plays on the right....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    30 million might be too much of a risk but a risk worth taking as he is only 19 if I'm correct. With Evra staying he has a good mentor behind him and will make the settling in much easier and less pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Seemingly Lambart deal will be announced today, fee agreed and they want to expadite proceedings.

    Appears we are trying to do the same with Shaw, and get him through his medical before they leave next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    Fcuk it, just spend the extra £3M and concentrate on other deals. I have a feeling he is going to be a super player. A huge improvement on whats there anyway at the moment. Evra triggering his contract means another £4M in wages but its only for one season. Plus he could do well enough as a back up.

    Get at least one CB and two class midfielders and I will feel a lot better about the squad. Jettison a few fringe players (Young, Valencia, Fletcher for a start) and suddenly the squad looks a lot more balanced.


  • Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Please, stop mentioning Valencia and CM... He can't even play his favoured position effectively...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Why does it matter if he did or not, if we ever have to play him there we're better off packing it in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea the same blind spot that man utd have had since keane retired

    yes but the other 99% of time he plays on the right....

    99% still isn't every game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Good old Becks

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    *Might not be real


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    99% still isn't every game.


    great post


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    We can forget about top 4 next season if Antonio Valencia is going to be playing in CM. He's one of the most technically limited players I have ever seen in a united jersey.

    This summer more than ever before, we needed to get in proper players, and to get them in early. It's looking likely now that we will have to do our business post WC, which is an overpriced and overhyped free-for-all.

    The club is becoming a joke.


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