How long more has Christianity (Religion) got ?

Manach · 30-05-2014 01:40AM

Supergurrier wrote: »

But if I repent on my deathbed I'm fine right ?

That's gotta be good for a year or two of raping and pillaging because I love abit of that me.

Pesky religion eh.

Only if truely repentant - and somehow one does not think that pre-planning counts.

endacl · 30-05-2014 01:40AM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Check out these maniacs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopimism

Feck. A church for teenagers. "It shall be free because I want it to be free".

:rolleyes:

corner of hells · 30-05-2014 01:42AM

DesperateDan wrote: »

That neither of us will be alive in 2114 :eek:

Unless you've perfected cryogenic stasis.

Cryogenic stasis ? Don't come round here with your new fangled religion.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 01:43AM

Manach wrote: »

I think there is a LGBT forum ->.

I'm a fairytale?

Ya wouldn't wanna be tellin' stories to yer kiddies about what I get up to on a Saturday night, that's for sure! :pac:

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 01:45AM

Manach wrote: »

Only if truely repentant - and somehow one does not think that pre-planning counts.

Funny it doesn't say that in the bible.

It does however say a man made from dust and a woman made from his rib were tricked my a talking snake into eating a dodgy apple and now all of mankind is suffering for it.

Ya know, if you want to be factual and all by religious standards.

Manach · 30-05-2014 01:45AM

Kiltennel wrote: »

Powerful force of good? Could equally be argued religion has been nothing but a discriminatory force holding back humanity from further scientific advancement.

Re: China, compared to the previuos hard line communist regime in China that killed about 20M citizens in their great leap foward.
Re: Progress, quite alot of Catholic sciencists were historical innovators + an interesting read "God's philosophers", which shows that not ideal but the Church during the middle ages laid the foundation for the scientific revolution and that the Europe of that time was not some backwater but a hive of intellectual activity.

Oblong Gator · 30-05-2014 01:46AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Is this gonna be a sequel to 2012?

I thought Judgment Day was the sequal?

Manach · 30-05-2014 01:46AM

Turtwig wrote: »

Hopefully long long more it's a pleasure to mod.

Even I think it can at times be a gateway to time off purgatory.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 01:47AM

Manach wrote: »

Re: China, compared to the previuos hard line communist regime in China that killed about 20M citizens in their great leap foward.
Re: Progress, quite alot of Catholic sciencists were historical innovators + an interesting read "God's philosophers", which shows that not ideal but the Church during the middle ages laid the foundation for the scientific revolution and that the Europe of that time was not some backwater but a hive of intellectual activity.

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Manach · 30-05-2014 01:49AM

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Ya know, if you want to be factual and all by religious standards.[/QUOTE]
Odd you quote the Bible, in an attempt to be factual yet clearly blow past the teaching tradition and Magisterium of the past 2000 years.

Knasher · 30-05-2014 01:51AM

There are still people who believe in homoeopathy. Despite all the evidence in the world against it, and despite it flying completely in the face of common sense. And yet there are people who believe in it.

Religion will decline, but I imagine there will always be a group of people who want to believe.

Turtwig · 30-05-2014 01:51AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Actually it's more a 60:40 split. You're confusing the national academy of scientists roster with the global scientist roster

endacl · 30-05-2014 01:53AM

Knasher wrote: »

There are still people who believe in homoeopathy. Despite all the evidence in the world against it, and despite it flying completely in the face of common sense. And yet there are people who believe in it.

Religion will decline, but I imagine there will always be a group of people who want to believe.

'Who need to believe', I suspect.

Chucken · 30-05-2014 01:54AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Really? I didn't know that. Is that real? Genuine question.

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 01:55AM

Manach wrote: »

Odd you quote the Bible, in an attempt to be factual yet clearly blow past the teaching tradition and Magisterium of the past 2000 years.

The tradition on censorship/burning/banning of books seen as against religions.

Shows a lot about how confident a religious order is about its past that it tries to rewrite its own history .

Control the education system control what the next generation learns/control their moral code and if you opt out shurre your non Christian child can be buried out in the open like an animal if they die.

Nice stuff this religion

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 01:58AM

Atheism to die out...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/steve-jones-at-the-hay-festival-falling-birth-rates-in-europe-and-rising-ones-in-africa-could-spell-decline-in-atheism-9436397.html

A combination of surging population growth in Christian Africa and population decline in Europe could signal the decline of atheism, a world-renowned geneticist has claimed.

According to Steve Jones, a professor in genetics at University College London’s Galton Laboratory, population decline in religiously sceptical European countries combined with rapid population growth in central Africa could see a resurgence of Christianity, leaving sceptics in a minority.
Speaking at the Hay Literary Festival he argued that religion grows rapidly during large population booms, particularly in poorer countries, while in Europe the Christian faith is stagnating as birth rates drop below the levels required to avoid population decline.
Prof Jones, who is one of the world’s experts on the genetics of snails and regularly appears on television and radio, pointed out that Britain was the only Christian country in Europe that is “replacing its population”
In comments at the festival reported by the Telegraph, he said, “We atheists sometimes congratulate ourselves that the incidence of religious belief is going down.”
“But religious people have more children,” he added. “Where are people having the most children? It’s in the tropics and in Africa. It’s clearly the case that the future will involve an increase in religious populations and a decrease in scepticism. We may not need more scientists but more theologists.”

The non religious are more likely to see abortion as an option too so they are helping to eradicate themselves slowly with lesser children.

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 01:59AM

Supergurrier wrote: »

The tradition on censorship/burning/banning of books seen as against religions.

Shows a lot about how confident a religious order is about its past that it tries to rewrite its own history .

Control the education system control what the next generation learns/control their moral code and if you opt out shurre your non Christian child can be buried out in the open like an animal if they die.

Nice stuff this religion

Yeah it would be better to be illiterate, right?

ryan101 · 30-05-2014 01:59AM

Supergurrier wrote: »

How long more has Christianity (Religion) git

Probably a lot longer that you have git

jacksie66 · 30-05-2014 02:01AM

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_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 02:02AM

Chucken wrote: »

Really? I didn't know that. Is that real? Genuine question.

It's actually 93% of the National Academy of Sciences.

This also came up when I googled it

If every #atheist left the USA, it would lose 93% of the National Academy of Sciences but less than 1% of the prison population.

Which is interesting.

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 02:05AM

Most of the famous scientists were religious, nowadays some are and some aren't.

endacl · 30-05-2014 02:09AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Most of the famous scientists were religious, nowadays some are and some most aren't.

Slight adjustment.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 02:09AM

Turtwig wrote: »

Actually it's more a 60:40 split. You're confusing the national academy of scientists roster with the global scientist roster

Larson and Witham claimed that their survey of elite scientists “found near universal rejection of the transcendent.”1 Atheist Richard Dawkins relied upon this study in The God Delusion.2 More recently, philosopher Alex Rosenberg cited this study as finding “95 percent of the most distinguished scientists in America (along with their foreign associate members) don’t believe in God.” Rosenberg’s conclusion? “An unblinking scientific worldview requires atheism.”3

Their "near universal rejection" figure appears to be 72% if I'm correctly. Hardly universal, but very high all the same.

RobertKK wrote: »

Most of the famous scientists were religious, nowadays some are and some aren't.

Right in the past. Very wrong now.

See above.

Skeleton XIII · 30-05-2014 02:09AM

For as long as there are gullible people, people afraid of the dark, people afraid of ghosts/boogeymen, people afraid of death etc. Religion will exist in some form or another.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 02:13AM

Skeleton XIII wrote: »

For as long as there are gullible people, people afraid of the dark, people afraid of ghosts/boogeymen, people afraid of death etc. Religion will exist in some form or another.

Christianity is built on fear. There actually was no hell until they realised if they didn't force people to join their religion very few would.

Now the motto is join us or be damned forever. They completely manipulate fear to get their followers.

Ironic as I see that as more the trait of their devil than their god, but that's just me.

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 02:14AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Their "near universal rejection" figure appears to be 72% if I'm correctly. Hardly universal, but very high all the same.

Right in the past. Very wrong now.

See above.

How many are religious on the Pontifical academy of sciences. I don't know, some are atheists, most have won Nobel prizes in the area of science.

Fred Swanson · 30-05-2014 02:16AM

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RobertKK · 30-05-2014 02:18AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Christianity is built on fear. There actually was no hell until they realised if they didn't force people to join their religion very few would.

Now the motto is join us or be damned forever. They completely manipulate fear to get their followers.

Ironic as I see that as more the trait of their devil than their god, but that's just me.

Christians are not living in fear of hell, they want to try and be Christ like in their lives, which is not easy.

Chucken · 30-05-2014 02:25AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's actually 93% of the National Academy of Sciences.

This also came up when I googled it

Which is interesting.

America?
Just America??

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 02:31AM

Chucken wrote: »

America?
Just America??

That study was based in America. Considering the developed world's similar attitudes and outlooks in the field of science, that figure would roughly translate over to many other countries, I'm sure. Especially considering America has a higher rate of practising religious than some big European countries.

How long more has Christianity (Religion) got ?

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