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Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

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  • #6032
    Agueroooo
    Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Mikeyt086 v Zerks in a Gif battle.

    would be epic.

    a 'Zerk Off' if you will? :)


  • #6033
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    Why is the club continuing to leak information to the press? Obviously we have a very mentally fragile fan base who are getting very hot under the collar already and the transfer window hasn't even opened already.

    Deals for top class players aren't going to happen. We have no Champions League football to offer and we have a new manager in place who is going to want to get his own targets. If you believe the early rumour mill in April we had one or two deals lined up before the World Cup. Maybe van Gaal doesn't want Luke Shaw, maybe he doesn't want Toni Kroos. I'd also hazard a guess that we could be signing a couple of Dutch players but van Gaal doesn't want to upset the players, their clubs to the Dutch FA by trying to rush through deals before the World Cup. Louis van Gaal is very focused on this World Cup and there is a huge possibility, even probability, that Holland will not make it out of the group. If Louis van Gaal is seen to be trying to do deals for Dutch players or is spotted meeting other players then he is going to be crucified for not giving his entire attention to the Dutch squad and their training preparations for the World Cup.


    Maybe he's not signing any Dutch players either, we don't know. Let's see what happens and then review the transfer window. I think people are going to be bitterly disappointed as van Gaal isn't going to spend huge money and he's likely only going to bring in a couple of pieces.


  • #6034
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Kroos deal falls apart or pulled out of, shaw deal going belly up? Continuing the farce of last summer, brill. Fabregas the number 1 target again? What could possibly go wrong.

    Bunch of freaking morons running united.

    You're blood pressure must be through the roof if you have a bitch fit over every minor fùcking thing.

    It's still only May ffs. I am actually embarrassed for you.


  • #6035
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Spread the word Robben
    Arjen Robben on a possible move to Manchester United: 'that's not an option. I'm staying with Bayern Munich. Period.
    Robben: 'it would have been different if I wasn't completely happy. Then I'd be up for it, I had a great time with Van Gaal at Bayern'


  • #6036
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Robben's just a more effective version of Valencia. Bayern can keep him.


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  • #6037
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    glued wrote: »
    Why is the club continuing to leak information to the press?

    There is always three parties involved in a deal; United, the other club and the player's camp.

    Taking Kroos as an example, it's likely his agent leaked he wanted to go to try and either get a move or get a new contract. It's likely Bayern leaked to show he could **** off with this game.

    Point is, United don't have to leak a thing to get outed like this; the other two can cause 99% of the ruckus and then United have to deal with 95% of the fallout :/


  • #6038
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    SkyBet have stopped taking bets on Luke Shaw now. He's apparently been on 1/20 odds for a while, so it's not that they just don't think it's worth while.


  • #6039
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Robben's just a more effective version of Valencia. Bayern can keep him.

    He's really not.


  • #6040
    GSPfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Where are all the top players Moyes said would love to join United?

    I'd be happy with the Shaw deal being confirmed to be honest. It's the only one I have any interest in cause it's the only one which has any real substance to it. The rest are just fairy tales at the moment.

    I still think there will be one deadline day deal or January deal in the form of Strootman. I bet you he will be on LvG's list.


  • #6041
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    adox wrote: »
    He's really not.

    He's past his best, though.


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  • #6042
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    He's past his best, though.

    He's really not.


  • #6043
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Robben's just a more effective version of Valencia. Bayern can keep him.

    e965339ef2f7ec69cd723354f029a41d30c64e75d91374cb6f7900631386feaa.jpg


  • #6044
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Mikeyt086 v Zerks in a Gif battle.

    would be epic.

    f7I3hmk.gif


  • #6045
    Larry Wildman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    Deiseboy01 wrote: »
    60m! Sh*t I'm glad you're not in charge of transfers at Utd!

    No way is he worth 60m

    Maybe we'd actually sign players if I was rather than lowballing and irritating clubs / players.

    We're now in a world where Cardiff got more tv money last season than United got for the 2012/2013 title winning season.

    We have money and no Champions League football.

    I disagree and believe that Cesc is worth £60m TO US.

    When a player like that who we absolutely need and want becomes available, we need to make decisively rather than adopt the Woodward Summer 2013 approach of offering less than the player's perceived value.


  • #6046
    TheTownie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭TheTownie


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    Maybe we'd actually sign players if I was rather than lowballing and irritating clubs / players.

    We're now in a world where Cardiff got more tv money last season than United got for the 2012/2013 title winning season.

    We have money and no Champions League football.

    I disagree and believe that Cesc is worth £60m TO US.

    When a player like that who we absolutely need and want becomes available, we need to make decisively rather than adopt the Woodward Summer 2013 approach of offering less than the player's perceived value.

    No point fretting over what Fabregas is worth to Utd since he ain't gona sign for Utd.


  • #6047
    lordgoat
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Ohhh Ahhhh Ohhh Ahhh Ohhh Aaaaa Caanntoonnaaaa

    Happy Birthday Eric.


  • #6048
    Larry Wildman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    lordgoat wrote: »
    Ohhh Ahhhh Ohhh Ahhh Ohhh Aaaaa Caanntoonnaaaa

    Happy Birthday Eric.

    '66 was a great year for English football.

    Eric was born.

    Simply the best.


  • #6049
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Saw this on Reddit...

    Saw this on Twitter - According to AS, Barcelona are considering an approach for Juan Mata due to uncertainty over Cesc Fabregas and Xavi Hernandez future.


  • #6050
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,981 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Saw this on Reddit...

    Saw this on Twitter - According to AS, Barcelona are considering an approach for Juan Mata due to uncertainty over Cesc Fabregas and Xavi Hernandez future.

    They can **** off


  • #6051
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Saw this on Reddit...

    Saw this on Twitter - According to AS, Barcelona are considering an approach for Juan Mata due to uncertainty over Cesc Fabregas and Xavi Hernandez future.

    The stuff of nightmares.


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  • #6052
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,097 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I can imagine things getting a bit tense if LvG has given a list to Woodie & then no one is signed.


  • #6053
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Luiz for 50m is the biggest indication the transfer market is simply broken

    Horrendously average player to be worth that much, shocking

    My first thought is there's something more between Chelsea and PSG. Could it be to do with financial fair play loop-holes?


  • #6054
    Technophobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Pogba is gone, you need to stop talking about him.
    Funny guy.. How many nights you doing? :)


  • #6055
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    My first thought is there's something more between Chelsea and PSG. Could it be to do with financial fair play loop-holes?

    Undoubtedly.


  • #6056
    Technophobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    kryogen wrote: »
    Is it, just about possible, maybe, that the Kroos story was bull**** and never going to happen, much like Thiago last year? Maybe a possibility? Also, would it enter the realms of possibility that the Chelsea fan Shaw who everybody acknowledged months ago was pretty much nailed on to go to Chelsea to replace Cole (Cole seemingly not being offered a concert since then adding strength to the theory) was also never actually a genuine target for the club or more to the point a possibility, in that case? Could that be possible?

    Fabregas is the number 1 target again now is he? If you wish to believe that go ahead sure, course, unless you actually hear it from Van Gaal or Woodward you speculate all you want and cry all summer if it makes you feel good.

    Is there any chance you might stop constantly
    insulting the people at the club though?

    This, just this....


  • #6057
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    Saw this on boards.... ;)
    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Saw this on Reddit...

    Saw this on Twitter - According to AS, Barcelona are considering an approach for Juan Mata due to uncertainty over Cesc Fabregas and Xavi Hernandez future.


  • #6058
    Technophobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Al Capwned wrote: »
    Saw this on boards.... ;)
    10m + Fab....take it or leave it...what say you Mr Chairman...


  • #6059
    Larry Wildman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    I'll never understand people's issue with overpaying for proven quality players. We're fans, not cost accountants.

    Consider the money that's been p..sed away on guys like Bebe, Anderson, etc. And the interest payments on the debt. I have no problem with us paying 10% or 20% over market value to ensure that a deal is definitely done rather than enduring the embarrassment of last summer (and last season).

    Personally I couldn't care less if we sign Cesc Fabregas for £60m or £48m or £42m once we sign him.

    Question:

    If it was announced on Monday that we'd signed Shaw for £35m, Hummels for £30m, Vidal for £40m and Fabregas for £60m, would people be ecstatic or raging over us overpaying a bit for the players who we want?


  • #6060
    Delboy5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Delboy5


    Great Andy Mitten article on transfer silly season, English half way down

    http://www.united.no/andy-mitten/ryktehysteriet/


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  • #6061
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    I'll never understand people's issue with overpaying for proven quality players. We're fans, not cost accountants.

    Consider the money that's been p..sed away on guys like Bebe, Anderson, etc. And the interest payments on the debt. I have no problem with us paying 10% or 20% over market value to ensure that a deal is definitely done rather than enduring the embarrassment of last summer (and last season).

    Personally I couldn't care less if we sign Cesc Fabregas for £60m or £48m or £42m once we sign him.

    Question:

    If it was announced on Monday that we'd signed Shaw for £35m, Hummels for £30m, Vidal for £40m and Fabregas for £60m, would people be ecstatic or raging over us overpaying a bit for the players who we want?

    Fabregas would probably by worth the same as Mata. 35M would be a fair price I would say. 60M and we're having our pants pulled down.

    The issue most fans have is quite simple: There is probably a set budget for transfers. Let's say 120M. If we spend 60M on Fab, that's half the budget gone on one player. A player who isn't worth that much.
    We're then left with 60M to fill the roles of left back, one or two centre backs and probably a young midfield prospect. It essentially means we have to go for lesser players in those positions than we would like.

    That's my take on it.


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