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'Call female teachers SIR'

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  • #32
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,044 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Anyone else considering moving to Russia before we all end up in skirts?


  • #33
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    From now on lets refer to women as men and be done with feminism for good!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #34
    Tea 1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    While they're at it, get rid of the whole female-male distinction. So no more feminists, just peopleists.


  • #35
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Candie wrote: »
    Sir implies greater authority than Miss, and doesn't refer to marital status as a form of address. The use of Miss uses marital status to define a persons overall status, Sir doesn't. It's outdated, although I've no idea what the alternative is.

    Sir definitely sounds more authoritative than Miss, we (some of us) call bosses Sir, but a female boss is never 'just' Miss.

    Maybe a hundred years ago but we do have equality now and anyone that considers a miss in authority less respectable than a sir wont have their mind changed by a title.


  • #36
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    Won't somebody please think of the children!!!
    ha ha ha


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  • #37
    Boombastic
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Maybe a hundred years ago but we do have equality now and anyone that considers a miss in authority less respectable than a sir wont have their mind changed by a title.

    but you call a knight sir, a miss is not a knights title, that seems to be one of their supporting arguments

    why they are not campaigning the 'establishment' to create some sort of 'woman knight title' is unclear

    * sidenote: 'female' is an offensive term to some feminists


  • #38
    the_monkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    IK09 wrote: »
    I have nothing against women at all, but when i hear feminists spouting their shíte I cant help but cringe.

    It really makes me want to troll them. I cant help but be a "sexist pig" when theyre around.

    I think this thread should be about ways to troll feminists.

    Yeah such tripe all right, like the dopes that wanted "History" to be renamed "Theirstory" ....

    FacePalm


  • #39
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Boombastic wrote: »
    but you call a knight sir, a miss is not a knights title, that seems to be one of their supporting arguments

    why they are not campaigning the 'establishment' to create some sort of 'woman knight title' is unclear

    * sidenote: 'female' is an offensive term to some feminists

    Lady Brienne is knight. :)


  • #40
    Cazzoenorme
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Cazzoenorme


    Boombastic wrote: »
    but you call a knight sir, a miss is not a knights title, that seems to be one of their supporting arguments

    why they are not campaigning the 'establishment' to create some sort of 'woman knight title' is unclear

    * sidenote: 'female' is an offensive term to some feminists

    Let's switch to your highness then.


  • #41
    dee_mc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    As a teacher I've been called Miss, Ms and Mrs dee_mc, as well as Miss, Sir, Granddad, Mammy, Mom... I still managed to sleep at night.


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  • #42
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,402 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Lady Brienne is knight. :)

    And Pod calls her Ser..M'Lady.


  • #43
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Lady Brienne is knight. :)

    but lady, is considered a derogatory term by them also, if it's the equivalent of knight and sir is acceptable...?


    * head explodes


  • #44
    anncoates
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    deise08 wrote: »
    Won't somebody please think of the children!!! ha ha ha

    I presume the teachers already do as it would present certain insurmountable obstacles vis a vis the logistics of their work if they were, in fact, not cognizant of their educational charges?


  • #45
    rubadub
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    We called both sexes "teacher" in primary, I remember a new guy starting and saying "sir" and a male teacher going mad at it, I think seeing it as a british term. Then joined secondary and had to say "sir" and them going mad if people said "teacher", which many from my primary school continued to do by accident.

    "teacher" makes more sense to me.

    When ever I flick over on TV and see that oscar pisotrius trial I keep thinking its like some monty python type skit with all this cringeworthy "m'lady" crap uttered every few seconds.


  • #46
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Boombastic wrote: »
    but lady, is considered a derogatory term by them also, if it's the equivalent of knight and sir is acceptable...?


    * head explodes

    They are both honorific gender specific titles. No real difference today as they dont suit up in armour for feudal warfare. :v


  • #47
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    IK09 wrote: »
    I have nothing against women at all, but when i hear feminists spouting their shíte I cant help but cringe.

    It really makes me want to troll them. I cant help but be a "sexist pig" when theyre around.

    I think this thread should be about ways to troll feminists.

    Ways to troll feminists...

    I know, why not link to a Daily Mail article about a press release about a tiny little opinion by a feminist or two which would be rejected by most other feminists for ideological and logistical reasons, and put it up on AH!

    Flaw: the only people frothing at the mouth will be your own kind.


  • #48
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    What's wrong with 'Mistress'?


  • #49
    Boombastic
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    Muise... wrote: »
    Ways to troll feminists...

    I know, why not link to a Daily Mail article about a press release about a tiny little opinion by a feminist or two which would be rejected by most other feminists for ideological and logistical reasons, and put it up on AH!

    Flaw: the only people frothing at the mouth will be your own kind.

    a few posts in I linked to the original in the tes. (Times educational supplement uk)

    and call her by her proper title, 'professor', very derogatory of you to say she is just a feminist


  • #50
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Must...resist..urge...to....post...in...thread...


  • #51
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Boombastic wrote: »
    a few posts in I linked to the original in the tes. (Times educational supplement uk)

    and call her by her proper title, 'professor', very derogatory of you to say she is just a feminist

    Are you really a schoolteacher. :eek:


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  • #52
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    pickarooney wrote: »
    What's wrong with 'Mistress'?
    That has come to mean "prostitute that a head of state is screwing"


  • #53
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rggspuTEir8


  • #54
    KyussBishop
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    I read this article yesterday, which I stuck in the A&A forum, about the 'weak man' logical fallacy (it's like straw man, but a lot more subtle).

    It gives a very interesting/new perspective, of when you see minor/insignificant things like this, as being posted as representative of feminism (or minor things about any societal subgroup, presented as representative):
    http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/12/weak-men-are-superweapons/

    I think that explains a bit, why people are prone to seeing feminists as really extreme/hyperbolic:
    All of these little unrepresentative things like in the OP are highlighted, yet if you want to challenge that by saying "that's not representative", you're damned if you do and damned if you don't - if you do point that out, people can paint you as defending minor/ridiculous stuff like in the OP (and it will look like you are), but if you don't point out the generalization, it will allow people to smear a whole group of people, and shift the 'overton window' so that they are all viewed as extreme (which is what has happened with feminism - is why a lot of people view it as extreme now).


  • #55
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I'm not a "proper" teacher (I teach TEFL) and I only teach adults. They all call me, "Teacher"; it's rather kinky.;)


  • #56
    Potatoeman
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    rubadub wrote: »
    That has come to mean "prostitute that a head of state is screwing"

    You dont call male teachers master either. Its not the gender equivalent.


  • #57
    Caliden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Some people actually get up everyday to find something to get angry about.

    They need a hobby.


  • #58
    [Deleted User]
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    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    I'm not a "proper" teacher (I teach TEFL) and I only teach adults. They all call me, "Teacher"; it's rather kinky.;)


    It's only kinky if you're brandishing a cane.


  • #59
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    I'm not a "proper" teacher (I teach TEFL) and I only teach adults. They all call me, "Teacher"; it's rather kinky.;)

    What's "teacher" in Spanish? :)

    I'm not a proper teacher either, so I insist on using my first name when I work in schools.

    "Sir", "Miss" etc. are English forms of address which are only used in Ireland in the education system -probably as some kind of throwback. Their class and rank divisions only apply in the UK. Where the article comes from, and where it will be argued academically and dismissed, but shure don't let that stop the dreams of feminazi jackboots splashing across the Irish sea to infect our children with PC gone mad, mad I tell you!


  • #60
    jimgoose
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    Give 'em all the ol' steely, Fix-Bayonets stare and bark "MiZZZZZZZZ!!". men and women.


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  • #61
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,202 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    You dont call male teachers master either. Its not the gender equivalent.

    "Sifu" will do. That, or snap-to-attention and bellow "Hooyah, Instructor Goose!!"


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