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Australian journalist: "I don't want my kids sitting next to a man on a plane"

  • 09-05-2014 01:46AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Australian Sky News Anchor, Tracey Spicer, might not be all that well known to us over here, but in Australia she is one of the most experienced and most respected female news presenters. She is not just a TV presenter, she is a radio broadcaster, columnist and has even done a couple of TEDx talks, in which I thought she made some excellent points.

    However, her recent article regarding her children and how she doesn't want them sitting next to a men on planes should those seats be the only ones available.. disgusted me. For someone who labels her self a feminist and has been championing equality for the past couple of decades, I find it astonishing that she would have the gall to come out with the following tripe:
    I don't want my kids sitting next to a man on a plane

    I know it's sexist. But I don't want my kids sitting next to a man on a plane. Sure, almost 90 per cent of child sexual abuse is committed by someone in, or known to, the family, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. However, stranger danger is a risk and women are perpetrators in only about 8 per cent of cases, says the ABS data.

    In 2001, Northwest Airlines paid a US family half a million dollars after a 10-year-old girl was molested by a 28-year-old man on a flight from Kansas to Detroit. So how do we protect our kids? A spokeswoman for Qantas says the airline is seeing more and more unaccompanied minors travelling, especially during school holidays.

    In 2012, flight crew forced a male nurse to swap seats with a female passenger, because he was sitting next to an unrelated girl travelling on her own. "It seemed I had this sign I couldn't see above my head that said 'child molester'," he said later.

    The airline defends its policy, which still states: "Unaccompanied minors are allocated seats next to adult female customers. Where possible, Qantas aims to seat children near crew areas or next to an empty seat. This policy reflects parents' concerns and the need to maximise the child's safety and well-being."

    My nine-year-old Taj and seven-year-old Grace flew as unaccompanied minors, for the first time, on Virgin last year. They were put in the last row with a bunch of other kids where doting staff plied them with treats. It was a relief to see their smiling faces at the end but I was disappointed I had no choice about where they'd be sitting.

    My advice is this: Plan well in advance, as airlines have only a limited number of unaccompanied minor seats on each flight. If you're worried, request that your child is seated next to another child, or an adult female. Some airlines will quietly comply. Talk to your child about stranger-danger: Not to scare, but to inform them. Sure, not all men are paedophiles but offenders are predominantly male.

    I figure it's better to be safe than sorry.
    Does anyone actually think she has a point with this?

    I just can't understand how someone who is seemingly otherwise quite intelligent, could hold such a misandric view in this day and age, let alone think it printable in a bloody news paper article. If it was about skin colour, she would most likely be guilty of inciting hatred. I can't see how this is far off that to be quiet honest.


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  • Posts: 11,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i read this last week

    yeah women can be child molesters also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    If it means I don't have to deal with kids beside me on a plane I'm all for it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Flew with Qantas many times, top class service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    So its fine to let your kids fly unaccompanied on a plane, but it's "better safe than sorry" when it comes to sitting next to a man. Can't really get my head around that. Then again, parents can be ridiculously unreasonable when it comes to their kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Australian Sky News Anchor, Tracey Spicer, might not be all that well known to us over here, but in Australia she is one of the most experienced and most respected female news presenters. .

    Never heard of her, who'd you say she is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Standman wrote: »
    So its fine to let your kids fly unaccompanied on a plane, but it's "better safe than sorry" when it comes to sitting next to a man. Can't really get my head around that. Then again, parents can be ridiculously unreasonable when it comes to their kids.

    Yeah that's the first thing that came into my head ... she's cool with letting them fly unaccompanied, just as long as they don't come into contact with any men? Those evil bastards. OK ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    It must be stated that 99% of television news in Australia is the equivalent of The Sun turned into a tv show so those kind of comments aren't particularly surprising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Qantas. Qantas never crashed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Fine with me luv. I don't want to have to sit beside your obnoxious, bratty offspring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Can't be too careful these days. A dingo ate her baby on a previous flight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Never heard of her, who'd you say she is.

    Seems to be a rent a gob these days, part time anchor on Sky News Australia.

    Perhaps you'll know her from the following (before, as was said, she got sacked)..



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    Hey Tracey



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Given her knowledge of statistics, I suspect she buys loads of lottery tickets every week.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Yes, logic fail


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    It's a pity her children have to be raised by such an arrogant sexist bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So would anybody be happy having there sitting child sitting beside s strange man if they had to take an unaccompanied trip,be or a flight or other ,

    What's funny everyone is having a go at her and yet Quantas its a standard procedure ,

    As a father of 2 girls I agree with the reporter


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Gatling wrote: »
    So would anybody be happy having there sitting child sitting beside s strange man if they had to take an unaccompanied trip,be or a flight or other ,

    What's funny everyone is having a go at her and yet Quantas its a standard procedure ,

    As a father of 2 girls I agree with the reporter

    i feel sorry for your children, you must not be able to sleep at night with all the crazy paedophiles running loose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Gatling wrote: »
    Quantas its a standard procedure
    That means nothing. Quantas is simply taking ass-covering action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭caustic 1


    Biggest majority of abuse is someone known to or related to victims. Wonder is she as careful about that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Gatling wrote: »
    So would anybody be happy having there sitting child sitting beside s strange man if they had to take an unaccompanied trip,be or a flight or other ,

    What's funny everyone is having a go at her and yet Quantas its a standard procedure ,

    As a father of 2 girls I agree with the reporter

    You would be a strange man to other young children on a flight, would you be comfortable with being treated and publicly acknowledged by an airline to be a potential paedophile ? Because that's what you are, and that's the way they see you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    I was disappointed I had no choice about where they'd be sitting.
    Not true. She could have purchased any remaining seats in the row and left them empty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭lollsangel


    Id never have my 2 flying alone but anyway. It doesn't bother me if the person around my kids is male or female provided they mean them no harm. When they are away from me I have to take belief that those (eg teachers) will not cause or allow hurt to be done to them. Once some8ne decides to allow their kids to fly alone, they have to put fate that the air hostesses will care for them, and I really dont see how gender should come into it. She has given one example of child molestation on a plane to back up her theory, id need more than 1 incident out of millions of flights to colour my opinion against every man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    i feel sorry for your children, you must not be able to sleep at night with all the crazy paedophiles running loose

    Hmmm, I'd be more afraid of his children being unable to sleep at night because of fear of all the potential pedophiles.


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,424 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    So airline policy is now supposed to be formed by parents who allow a 9 yo and 7 yo fly unaccompanied !!!!!

    Good help us all.
    I wouldn't allow my 9 + 7 yo get a bus to the next town unaccompanied.

    The simple answer is not to allow under 16s fly unaccompanied. That would teach these "parents" some responsibility. ... and not labeling ever man as a potential pedophile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson



    However, her recent article regarding her children and how she doesn't want them sitting next to a men on planes should those seats be the only ones available.. disgusted me. For someone who labels her self a feminist and has been championing equality for the past couple of decades, I find it astonishing that she would have the gall to come out with the following tripe:
    .

    Lol.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    This is mental! One ever case in 2001 of a minor being assaulted out of the millions of flights yearly over the past 15 years? If she's that concerned, she shouldn't be putting them on a flight unaccompanied. Talk about an over-reaction!
    I can't imagine how she manages to bring them to the cinema, or stand in a queue with them, or play in a playground, or God forbid, they have a male teacher!
    For all her quoting of statistics in the introductory paragraph, she could have done with quoting:
    A: the number of convicted (or even estimated) male paedophiles, expressed as a percentage of the entire male population
    B: the number of incidents of molestation of minors on flights, expressed as a percentage of the number of incidents of minors flying unaccompanied

    Crazy 'logic'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Gatling wrote: »
    So would anybody be happy having there sitting child sitting beside s strange man if they had to take an unaccompanied trip,be or a flight or other ,

    What's funny everyone is having a go at her and yet Quantas its a standard procedure ,

    As a father of 2 girls I agree with the reporter
    You know they're 9 times more likely to be abused by one of their uncle's, right? Are you happy for your male relatives to babysit?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    kylith wrote: »
    You know they're 9 times more likely to be abused by one of their uncle's, right? Are you happy for your male relatives to babysit?

    Indeed, statistically (since the journalist is so fond of statistics), they are actually more likely to be abused by their father than a stranger. Scary statistic right there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Gatling wrote: »
    So would anybody be happy having there sitting child sitting beside a strange man if they had to take an unaccompanied trip...

    http://www.femalesexoffenders.com


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I started with "I know it's sexist", then I stopped reading.


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