Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Giggsy11 · 08-05-2014 01:21PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Martinez to Arsenal is worrying, it looks like they'll get a top striker as well this summer. I think we'll see a proper title challenge from them next season

Apparently Liverpool have had scouts watching Greizmann as well, I'll be píssed if they get him, he would fit so well into a Van Gaal team and is a realistic alternative to the Reus fantasy.

If Martinez is available then we should do everything we can to sign him. Brilliant player and IMO the best DM in the world.

redbaron_99 · 08-05-2014 01:25PM

Why are so many of bayerns top players supposed to be leaving? Sounds like total BS to me.

NTMK · 08-05-2014 01:27PM

i was pissed when we didnt seem to try for him when he moved to BM ill be really ****ing pissed if he ends up at arsenal

if he is available united should do everything in their power to sign him

Son Of A Vidic · 08-05-2014 01:27PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Why are so many of bayerns top players supposed to be leaving? Sounds like total BS to me.

Probably because their new manager ballsed up a fine team from last year.

Headshot · 08-05-2014 01:31PM

Pep has a style of play which alot of those players wont get into. Muller barely plays compared to last season and Kross is not playing his ideal position.

08-05-2014 01:36PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Probably because their new manager ballsed up a fine team from last year.

League Champions, a cup final to come and Champions league semi final.

Not a bad season for a ballsed up team!

redbaron_99 · 08-05-2014 01:38PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Probably because their new manager ballsed up a fine team from last year.

He did not make a balls of it this season. Jesus, talk about a knee jerk reaction!

08-05-2014 01:40PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

He did not make a balls of it this season. Jesus, talk about a knee jerk reaction!

He turned Bayern from a team with attacking width and pace into 'team pass extraordinaire' and ended up loosing badly to Madrid the process because of this.

I would consider that 'ballsing it up'.

08-05-2014 01:41PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

League Champions, a cup final to come and Champions league semi final.

Not a bad season for a ballsed up team!

In the Bundasliga, a cakewalk anyway.

Agueroooo · 08-05-2014 01:42PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

In the Bundasliga, a cakewalk anyway.

ahh here ya cant have it both ways.

08-05-2014 01:44PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

In the Bundasliga, a cakewalk anyway.

If only football was that simple.

Hotblack Desiato · 08-05-2014 01:45PM

good tune just needs a few new lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp2qcCrdBLA

NTMK · 08-05-2014 01:48PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

ahh here ya cant have it both ways.

in fairness this year it was a cakewalk. Dortmund were playing with a 2nd string side for most of the season.

you cant do much about the opposition but bayern winning the league isnt a huge plus, its expected.

peps rumoured situation is probably more down to pissing off Bayerns overlords who have built a team that the manager now wants to change than getting knock out of the CL

08-05-2014 01:51PM

Doesn't Van Gaals teams have similar traits to Peps?

ie, dominating possession, pressing high up the pitch

Rayne Wooney · 08-05-2014 01:52PM

Pep's style is based off Van Gaal's but taken to the extreme on the passing front

gracehopper · 08-05-2014 01:56PM

Louis Van Gaal............you big dutch man.....we love you so.....la la la, la

Maybe a bit premature?

08-05-2014 01:59PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

ahh here ya cant have it both ways.

And why not?

Dortmund were a much weaker team this season than they were last season and they are the only team to pose even a challenge. Bundasliga was no test at all.

Munich destroyed Barca last a season with there vicious pace & width.

There tactics took a role reversal and Munich got well beaten by Real Madrid this season because Guidiola took the sting out of there attack and turned there team into a team all about Possession football. They lost what was most threatening about them last season.

bangkok · 08-05-2014 02:02PM

possession never wins you football matches...barca had 72% possession against munich last year over 2 legs and were hammered 7-0!!

08-05-2014 02:03PM

Back on topic. Were down to 3rd on Forbes. Report up on SSN.

Think approx 1.6BN

keane2097 · 08-05-2014 02:05PM

**** Pep and his gammy style IMO. No way I'd take being the most dominant club team in the world over an extended period if I had to agree to losing sometimes to go along with it. No way man.

Rayne Wooney · 08-05-2014 02:10PM

Possession needs to be used correctly, if you read what Van Gaal says about his philosophy you will see where Pep veered off and added his own mark to it with the excessive passing.

When Van Gaal talks about possession it's about circulation, to draw the opponent on and leave gaps in behind before striking. However you need a plan B when a team sets out to sit back and not be drawn towards the ball like United v Bayern and Chelsea v Pool

08-05-2014 02:11PM

keane2097 wrote: »

**** Pep and his gammy style IMO. No way I'd take being the most dominant club team in the world over an extended period if I had to agree to losing sometimes to go along with it. No way man.

Barca at the time he was in charge were awesome. Consisting of the arguably the 3 best midfielders in the world all in there prime.
Not to mention Messi.

Munich last year were setup tactically in a completely different way to best utilize there 2 best Attacking assets, Robben & Ribery.

The same system he he trying use with Munich now was the wrong option.

It's like comparing apples to oranges.

redbaron_99 · 08-05-2014 02:14PM

I think Bayern were far more effective last season, but my original point stands: Pep did not make a balls of it this season. Finishing in 7th or something like that would be a balls of a season.

NTMK · 08-05-2014 02:15PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Back on topic. Were down to 3rd on Forbes. Report up on SSN.

Think approx 1.6BN

Figures in $
1)Real 3.44
2)Barca 3.2
3)United 2.8
and Bayern are worth 1.8 (not sure of placing)

08-05-2014 02:15PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Barca at the time he was in charge were awesome. Consisting of the arguably the 3 best midfielders in the world all in there prime.
Not to mention Messi.

Munich last year were setup tactically in a completely different way to best utilize there 2 best Attacking assets, Robben & Ribery.

The same system he he trying use with Munich now was the wrong option.

It's like comparing apples to oranges.

He's only in the job a year tbf.

Pro. F · 08-05-2014 02:16PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Barca at the time he was in charge were awesome. Consisting of the arguably the 3 best midfielders in the world all in there prime.
Not to mention Messi.

Munich last year were setup tactically in a completely different way to best utilize there 2 best Attacking assets, Robben & Ribery.

The same system he he trying use with Munich now was the wrong option.

It's like comparing apples to oranges.

It's more like jumping to conclusions too quickly.

Agueroooo · 08-05-2014 02:21PM

I'm from the days when a manager was giving the time to implement his project over a couple of seasons- If it failed he got the sack. (fair enough imo)

It then moved into a manager getting a season - If he failed he got the sack.

more recently its being a manager gets half a season -If he failed he got the sack.

what are we saying now?... lose a CL game you've failed?

madness.

patmac · 08-05-2014 02:23PM

Interesting that if we beat Southampton away next week we will end up with the best away record in the Premiership (this would have been Liverpool if it wasn't for those pesky Palace kids), also for the first time in a long time we have a worse home record than away, I seem to recall that this happened in the late seventies early eighties before, but then I am old and this time was mainly a blur, I shall check it out later.

Backstreet Moyes · 08-05-2014 02:23PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I think Bayern were far more effective last season, but my original point stands: Pep did not make a balls of it this season. Finishing in 7th or something like that would be a balls of a season.

Moyes would have walked the league with Bayern this season.

08-05-2014 02:23PM

Pro. F wrote: »

It's more like jumping to conclusions too quickly.

Can't see how I'm jumping to conclusions. Munich were better last season than they are this season and it's clear why.

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