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Peaches Geldof died due to heroin overdose**MOD NOTE: NO JOKES**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Muise... wrote: »
    :pac:

    Lady Astor: "Mr. Churchill, you're drunk!"

    Winston Churchill: "Yes, and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober."

    Provided he didn't choke on his puke that night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Candie wrote: »
    I didn't paint her as a saint. I just don't get off on putting a dead girl down and pretending I can see inside her head.

    And I don't get off on coming imaginary first in the imaginary comparative suffering steeplechase, it's not a competition to see who can withstand the hardest hardship without being a junkie.

    It's easy to be nice you know, nobody has to be judgemental or nasty about the death of a mum of two kids at only 25. Shame so many seem to enjoy it.

    At least if you're a junkie you have a chance of rehab. Assholes tend to stay that way for life.

    I can get called an asshole all day here if I call one of the 3 or 4 post thanking glossy attachment parenting fans anything the thread gets closed.
    Im enjoying this am I?
    Two kids with no mother because she was too selfish to put the needle down?
    Great craic Im having.
    The fathers probably at it aswell. I must be delighted according to you and your 3 friends.
    Poor kids. Im disgusted there is no delight here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭Ugo Monye spacecraft experience


    jane82 wrote: »
    I can get called an asshole all day here if I call one of the 3 or 4 post thanking glossy attachment parenting fans anything the thread gets closed.
    Im enjoying this am I?
    Two kids with no mother because she was too selfish to put the needle down?
    Great craic Im having.
    The fathers probably at it aswell. I must be delighted according to you and your 3 friends.
    Poor kids. Im disgusted there is no delight here.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Some people here need to take a big chill pill, acting like she was your best friend or something.

    Not everyone has to see addicts in a sympathetic light, and they are not "evil" because they don't either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Seriously, all this is beyond ridiculous. How can you say you never met a heroin addict who wanted to be an addict? You would have to be an actual retard not to know the dangers of taking heroin. The warnings about it and the risks associated with it have been drummed into ALL of us from a very early age. So anyone willing to chance it and take it for the very first time deserves no sympathy at all. The amount of opportunities we have in the Western world is amazing, we can almost do whatever we want.

    I genuinely am sad about people wasting their lives that become addicted to drugs, but I am not sad for them, I am sad for the people they affect, such as their families, their friends and the likely victims of their crimes. You know what, writing this is making me think we probably put way too much value on a human life, lets be real for a moment, all of our lives are pretty irrelevant in the greater scheme of things, so dry your eyes and enjoy your fleeting moment on this earth because you don't have long enough left to live to be angry about some selfish celeb you don't even know. Your time is precious, go live it!!!!

    Right thats it, Im away off this PC and Im going to go sky diving right now, who's up for a boards.ie meet at Dublin airport in 1 hours time?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭Olive8585


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Some people here need to take a big chill pill, acting like she was your best friend or something.

    Not everyone has to see addicts in a sympathetic light, and they are not "evil" because they don't either.

    Who said anyone was evil? Judgemental and lacking in empathy, maybe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Are you saying that is a rediculous idea. It couldnt be possible a heroin users husband who she doesnt let sleep in the bed with the kids is also a heroin user?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jane82 wrote: »
    I can get called an asshole all day here if I call one of the 3 or 4 post thanking glossy attachment parenting fans anything the thread gets closed.
    Im enjoying this am I?
    Two kids with no mother because she was too selfish to put the needle down?
    Great craic Im having.
    The fathers probably at it aswell. I must be delighted according to you and your 3 friends.
    Poor kids. Im disgusted there is no delight here.

    I'm surprised. Because your posts sound gleeful, spiteful, satisfied, smug, small minded, judgemental, sanctimonious, lacking in taste, empathy, insight, and without compassion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 212 ✭✭thrashmetalfan


    a waste of a life. why do heroin?? feel sorry for her family especially bob. on another note, damon albarn during interviews to promote his new album said heroin was very beneficial to him especially when it came to his song writing. apparently damon has an iron will and can drink snort and smoke then not do so for weeks on end without feeling any cravings. not passing comment on peaches but some people never get addicted or come a cropper from their use of drugs while others...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    Who said anyone was evil? Judgemental and lacking in empathy, maybe.

    Implied by way of several borderline hysterical posts.

    But do carry on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    Again, good for you.

    I'm sorry you had such a hard time, but you have no idea what anyone else went through.

    Here is the thing.....Your line of thinking leads to a sort of carte-blanche blamelessness.

    Of course I can't live in her shoes,only one person can,and what she chose to do with her Life mildly dissappointed me.Briefly.

    Is she off-limits from criticism because she was famous/a mother or some other reason?

    The woman is dead.She leaves behind a family and if it was self-inflicted,do people not have the right to air their thoughts on the matter?Can people not understand why some people might hold her up in a negative light?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Candie wrote: »
    I'm surprised. Because your posts sound gleeful, spiteful, satisfied, smug, small minded, judgemental, sanctimonious, lacking in taste, empathy, insight, and without compassion.

    You hear my posts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Not surprising in the least. When I heard about her death I presumed it was a drug overdose but my GF (who is a fan of hers) was trying to convince me that it couldn't have been drugs because she's a mother to two small children and she seemed so happy on Twitter, Instagram, etc.. I never had any doubts though. A tragedy for the family, really feel for Bob.

    RIP


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭Olive8585


    Seriously, all this is beyond ridiculous. How can you say you never met a heroine addict who wanted to be an addict? You would have to be an actual retard not to know the dangers of taking heroine. The warnings about it and the risks associated with it have been drummed into ALL of us from a very early age. So anyone willing to chance it and take it for the very first time deserves no sympathy at all. The amount of opportunities we have in the Western world is amazing, we can almost do whatever we want.

    I genuinely am sad about people wasting their lives that become addicted to drugs, but I am not sad for them, I am sad for the people they affect, such as their families, their friends and the likely victims of their crimes. You know what, writing this is making me think we probably put way too much value on a human life, lets be real for a moment, all of our lives are pretty irrelevant in the greater scheme of things, so dry your eyes and enjoy your fleeting moment on this earth because you don't have long enough left to live to be angry about some selfish celeb you don't even know. Your time is precious, go live it!!!!

    Right thats it, Im away off this PC and Im going to go sky diving right now, who's up for a boards.ie meet at Dublin airport in 1 hours time?

    The risks of many things are drummed into us from a very young age. I'm astounded by how many people my age smoke and drink excessively. But they do, and not only people who are trying to escape awful lives.

    I think you're missing the point of why people are annoyed. In my case, it's not so much about Peaches (didn't like her) but more about the family she's left behind and the judgemental comments that are being made on here about addicts in general. I have a friend whose mother died of a heroin overdose and I don't think she's a selfish b1tch. I think she was a very troubled woman who wasn't able to get the help she needed in time.

    Some people here seem to think 'hard life' equates with 'poor mental health'. It doesn't. You can grow up dirt poor with crappy parents and not be affected by depression, anxiety, schizophrenia or any other mental health issue. That's what makes the 'I had it harder than she did and I'm fine' stuff so pathetic. I used to work with addicts and alcoholics and every single one of them had mental health issues. Addiction is very often a symptom of a more serious condition, not just some sort of choice you make because you're a bit bored.

    The ignorance on this thread is depressing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭Olive8585


    crockholm wrote: »
    Here is the thing.....Your line of thinking leads to a sort of carte-blanche blamelessness.

    Of course I can't live in her shoes,only one person can,and what she chose to do with her Life mildly dissappointed me.Briefly.

    Is she off-limits from criticism because she was famous/a mother or some other reason?

    The woman is dead.She leaves behind a family and if it was self-inflicted,do people not have the right to air their thoughts on the matter?Can people not understand why some people might hold her up in a negative light?

    Yes, of course. But that's the obvious thing to do. Saying 'well, she deserved it, she took drugs, it was her choice' is the obvious thing to say. Is there some element of truth in that? Maybe. But I don't find it that hard to have compassion and empathy for anyone who ends up ruining or ending their life through drug use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    To be taking heroin with her small baby beside her ffs, ive no sympathy for the stupid b**** only the family she left behind


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    To be taking heroin with her small baby beside her ffs, ive no sympathy for the stupid b**** only the family she left behind

    You're so hard. Calling a dead 25 year old a stupid bi*ch. If only everyone was as cool as you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    it has been found that she died of a drug overdose

    Not surprising. I hope her children do not go down the same path in life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    jane82 wrote: »
    I can get called an asshole all day here if I call one of the 3 or 4 post thanking glossy attachment parenting fans anything the thread gets closed.
    Im enjoying this am I?
    Two kids with no mother because she was too selfish to put the needle down?
    Great craic Im having.
    The fathers probably at it aswell. I must be delighted according to you and your 3 friends.
    Poor kids. Im disgusted there is no delight here.

    Your posts seem quite hysterical and not very coherent. You probably need to calm down a little. :)

    It seems unfair to describe her as 'too selfish to put the needle down'. It's more likely that she was too addicted to put the needle down. None of us know what drove her to take heroin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭Ugo Monye spacecraft experience


    jane82 wrote: »
    You hear my posts?

    That's just so childish. Explains a lot though


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    The risks of many things are drummed into us from a very young age. I'm astounded by how many people my age smoke and drink excessively. But they do, and not only people who are trying to escape awful lives.

    I think you're missing the point of why people are annoyed. In my case, it's not so much about Peaches (didn't like her) but more about the family she's left behind and the judgemental comments that are being made on here about addicts in general. I have a friend whose mother died of a heroin overdose and I don't think she's a selfish b1tch. I think she was a very troubled woman who wasn't able to get the help she needed in time.

    Some people here seem to think 'hard life' equates with 'poor mental health'. It doesn't. You can grow up dirt poor with crappy parents and not be affected by depression, anxiety, schizophrenia or any other mental health issue. That's what makes the 'I had it harder than she did and I'm fine' stuff so pathetic. I used to work with addicts and alcoholics and every single one of them had mental health issues. Addiction is very often a symptom of a more serious condition, not just some sort of choice you make because you're a bit bored.

    The ignorance on this thread is depressing.

    Ive hung around with alcoholics and drug addicts from a young age and not so much now. You seen the ones that needed a bit of mental health care. Plenty of them I know just like a drink a bit too much. The ones I know that go on the heroin are the ones whos brothers did or who cant get any other friends apart from junkies.
    Are you honestly saying with all bobs money he couldnt get her into a mental health hospital?
    Im honestly getting offended how I can be constantly accused of being a monster when her 5 fans disagree with how I see a woman doing so many drugs she dies while caring for her youngest son.
    No babysitter. Just her the youngest child and the drugs.
    Im the monster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Olive8585 wrote: »

    The ignorance on this thread is depressing.

    Maybe we just do not care?

    Do not get depressed, otherwise yours will be just another life wasted in the same way.

    I think with society and social care, the natural selection process which would have eliminated such weak examples of our species has been destroyed. Now we are surrounded by feeble specimens requiring help and assistance at every turn.

    Perhaps we should be saying "good riddance" rather than RIP, it could be seen as a cleansing of the human race. Perhaps in the future, when the earths resources are stretched to breaking point, the Governments or corporations will start a culling program whereby those incapable of taking responsibility for themselves will be fed into a big mincing machine and used as fertiliser to grow crops for the Aryan race!


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jane82 wrote: »
    Ive hung around with alcoholics and drug addicts from a young age and not so much now. You seen the ones that needed a bit of mental health care. Plenty of them I know just like a drink a bit too much. The ones I know that go on the heroin are the ones whos brothers did or who cant get any other friends apart from junkies.
    Are you honestly saying with all bobs money he couldnt get her into a mental health hospital?

    I wish I was psychic too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Candie wrote: »
    You're so hard. Calling a dead 25 year old a stupid bi*ch. If only everyone was as cool as you.

    Its got nothing to do with being cool, if she was a young free rebel rouser with no young family i couldnt care less what **** she pumped into herself, but to be doing that crap with her young baby beside her well to me she is a stupid b**** and alot worse that i wont say on here


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Candie wrote: »
    I wish I was psychic too.

    Theres no such thing as psychic stop reading them rubbish magazines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Is the tit for tat in this thread really necessary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    jane82 wrote: »
    Theres no such thing as psychic stop reading them rubbish magazines.

    There is no such thing as God, stop reading the bible! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Last I checked this was posted in After Hours, if you don't want jokes or banter post it in the Celebrates forum, apologies for any offence caused by my post earlier but it is after hours so humour is expected here, low brow as it may be in my case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Olive8585 wrote: »
    Yes, of course. But that's the obvious thing to do. Saying 'well, she deserved it, she took drugs, it was her choice' is the obvious thing to say. Is there some element of truth in that? Maybe. But I don't find it that hard to have compassion and empathy for anyone who ends up ruining or ending their life through drug use.

    Well, here is kinda where I'm split on the matter-there are kids around the country who see the evidence of their parents addictions Daily.The same kids are given Little chance to break free of the cycle.

    For all the criticisms I have of Bob Geldof,I just cannot imagine him as a distant uncaring parent.The girl would have had a lot more support than some poor kid you might see on the Liffey boardwalk tomorrow.

    Today was (I Think) the first time I posted on the subject,because there seems to be evidence that she OD'd, this is not,as some here Think,a cause of celebration or a Point proven (for me anyway) but rather a tragic hypocrite exposed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    If this was inner city DUBLIN - news headline - JUNKIE FOUND DEAD IN BED
    Everyone that dies is someone's mother/father/sister/brother/son/daughter. Why the public Dianaesque display at a foolish woman's death?
    She put her fix before her kids. So why the eulogising?


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