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Cities you'd never return to

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Was anyone in Tallinn? Would you go back?

    Was thinking of going for a few days and taking the train to that other Sh!thole (according to reports here)....St. Petersburg...

    It isn't a ****hole! Seriously. Great city. I liked Talinn too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Was anyone in Tallinn? Would you go back?

    Was thinking of going for a few days and taking the train to that other Sh!thole (according to reports here)....St. Petersburg...

    The old town is nice, worth a trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Hamburg, very strange place. Wouldn't go back if I was paid!

    What did you not like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭lisa_eire


    I have to agree. I wasnt a fan of Hamburg. Everything is expensive, clean and new. It comes across as very wealthy, a place where people work but do not live (except for the red light district which was sleezy). Saying that i was there a bank holiday weekend a few years ago so maybe its not typical of the place.

    I liked Washington, there are loads of museums there and there seemed to be alot of Irish people working there. Its a beautiful city. However i wouldnt go back to Boston. Alot of irish there too but not much to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Bradford. Horrible weather most of the time. Loads of ugly buildings either remnants of industry or horrible offices from 70's and 80's. Lots of racial tension. Having to listen to taxi drivers espouse the views of the BNP telling you the various reasons why that lot should get out of their country... ugh.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    St Petersburg, Russia. Been all over the world but this place is unreal, completly unsafe feeling and most of it comes from the authorities. Dodgy dodgy place

    I wonder what parts you were in. A stunning city. Chancers galore and still an element of the old 'one price for locals, another for you' but a fantastic place to visit. Was there in the Leningrad days and more recently too and it is just as fascinating second or third time round.

    Not sure if it's big enough to be a city, but Moe in Victoria in Australia is a very unsettling place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    Judging cities based on cleanliness, tidiness and poverty is shallow in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    That's funny you say that because I was bought a shot by some guy in a bar. Turns out they were criminals (according to a friend who was local), smartly dressed, rough looking dudes. Anyway, I said "why?" and he just said that he wants us to gave a good memory of Prague and Czech people.

    Happened again in another club but it was enough for a joint. Guy collecting his gf at a club overheard me talking about smoking. He came back and said "here, have this." I was skeptical again. I asked "how much" but he just said "no, take it" and said something along the lines of wanting us to have a good memory of Prague.

    But then again, I'm friendly and people talk to me all the time and vice versa.

    So, you know I do the same when I come across tourists. I go out of the way to give them directions, take them to a bar they'd like and just generally make them feel welcome. You can be in a **** city but if the people are nice, you'll go back.

    How pretty are you? You're pretty, right?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Speaking of unsettling things: the scariest border experience I ever had was (surprise, surprise) going from Hungary into Slovakia!! Yes, far more scary than Poland into Belarus or Iran into Azerbaijan!! Whatever was the reason, but the whole Slovakian army seemed to be everywhere and loads of guns!! Clearly, something was going down at the time and it was around the 9/11 period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭2rkehij30qtza5


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭2rkehij30qtza5


    1. Moscow...threatening city. Not a nice feel to the place. Still very 'Soviet' or something.
    2. L.A. - meh. Very overhyped and not v nice. Hollywood and Rodeo Drive etc. are nice but LA itself isn't.
    3. Beijing. Overcrowded, smoggy beyond belief.
    4. Helsinki. Boring. Nothing to see or do.
    5. Cairo. Pyramids are cool and the museum is ok-ish (but very old/run-down & nothing writtten in anythinh other than Arabic) but the rest of the city is like a landfill. It's incredibly 3rd world and very dirty.
    6. Riga but I was there many years ago when it was just out of Soviet clutches..people were dour and we were almost robbed a few times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭2rkehij30qtza5


    mosstin wrote: »
    It isn't a ****hole! Seriously. Great city. I liked Talinn too.

    Tallinn is an amazing city with so much to see and do! It's really beautiful and well worth going to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    Was there a few years ago and did not like the place at all. Unlike other places such as Saudi Arabia, Dubai try to hide all their repressive laws which makes it more scary actually. While not the worst city, I think it was the least enjoyable country I was ever in. It has no culture, no history and no social life worthwhile. A fake nightlife for tourists yes but laid on for them. I was never so glad to get out of it and go to Iran! Iran I found far friendlier and a kinder society despite their similar regime.

    Slavery? They dont exactly go to other countries and kidnap them you know. Have you ever spoken to a labourer or a taxi driver about how they feel about Dubai? they brought in wage protect systems to stop lower paid staff from being taken advantage of, its not the EU but its is new country development takes time and they focused on the wrong areas at times, know any other country that had crisis in 08?? Fake nightlife if you went to a nightclub in Dubai what do you expect? Locals don't drink, did you manage to miss every single shisha cafe when you were there? that is local night life. Did you check out any Muslim culture? There is a whole centre dedicated to cultural understanding in Dubai. Dubai doesn't put on a show of liberalism, it is more liberal but isn't costa del sol. They have laws that everyone is aware of, yes they turn a blind eye to a lot but that doesn't mean the laws cant be enforced when people openly flout them. There are ridiculous laws(the issues surrounding rape are archaic) but in general if you have common sense and you wont have a problem, hundreds of thousands of expats live here without issue. As for culture, only old stuff id cultural is it? no one is allowed move on from the past are they? there are tonnes of galleries in the UAE, a Guggenheim is being built in AD which will house mostly middle eastern art, there will also be a louvre with a universal theme opening next year but sure they are buying culture so that doesn't count. there is currently a great exhibit in saadiyat the history of the world in 100 objects (on lone from the British museum) one of which is an islamic coin, these coins were a turning point in the history of the world and trade but sure lets ignore that as well. How about the history of area's like Deira with a rich history of pearl diving and trade? Aw sure we won't count that either... I know its not perfect but you get what you look for in a place...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,318 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    We are a very privileged lot, aren't we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    5. Cairo. Pyramids are cool and the museum is ok-ish (but very old/run-down & nothing writtten in anythinh other than Arabic) but the rest of the city is like a landfill. It's incredibly 3rd world and very dirty..

    So much to see and do in Cairo. Spent 2 weeks and will have to go back some day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Palz


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Swansea and Cardiff in Wales. Both utter kips.

    My search button isn't working so after a lot of surfing the thread, I found what I was looking for. Somebody of like mind.

    Two votes now for Cardiff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭turnikett1


    Oh, how could I forget to add...

    Pretty much EVERYWHERE in Sweden. It was like Germany, but even worse. At least Germans are friendly and engaging. Swedish people are cold, shy and dry on a scale like never before. So boring. Scandinavian history is interesting but honestly the people were amongst the worst I'd met. Wouldn't go back if you offered me a free flight and hotel for 2 weeks.

    From wikitravel "When entering a bus or another form of public transportation it is often considered unpolite to sit next to another person if there is another twin seat available." I mean wtf! I get that some people prefer sitting by themselves, I mean I know I do, but I wouldn't consider it rude or impolite if someone sat down beside me. They are public seats. They are meant to be sat down on. /rantover :P (I had a very bad experience in Sweden as you might guess!)

    Norway and Denmark on the other hand, are lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Palz wrote: »
    My search button isn't working so after a lot of surfing the thread, I found what I was looking for. Somebody of like mind.

    Two votes now for Cardiff.

    Don't forget Bangor 'City' in the north...another fine kip of a place in Wales.


  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alan Unsightly Fish


    turnikett1 wrote: »
    From wikitravel "When entering a bus or another form of public transportation it is often considered unpolite to sit next to another person if there is another twin seat available." I mean wtf!

    That's the same in dublin sure
    Nobody sits beside someone else if there's another twin seat


    The pictures of their bus stop queues are kinda funny though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭Todd Toddington III


    Uncle_moe wrote: »
    phnom penh. Dump

    Siem reap. Even bigger dump


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭turnikett1


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's the same in dublin sure
    Nobody sits beside someone else if there's another twin seat


    The pictures of their bus stop queues are kinda funny though

    My friend is an Irishwoman in Sweden. She said she was on a full bus once, and the only seat available was beside some young woman. She sat down beside her and the woman decided to spend the rest of the bus journey STANDING UP! Madness I tell ye. Poor girl is going mental over there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,163 ✭✭✭ronjo


    I spent 19 long days working in Tashkent, Uzbekistan 12 years ago.

    It was the most boring place I have ever been. It didnt help that we were ferried from our compound, yes compound to work and back every day by bus.
    Had some freedom at weekends but very little to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    turnikett1 wrote: »

    From wikitravel "When entering a bus or another form of public transportation it is often considered unpolite to sit next to another person if there is another twin seat available." I mean wtf! I get that some people prefer sitting by themselves, I mean I know I do, but I wouldn't consider it rude or impolite if someone sat down beside me. They are public seats. They are meant to be sat down on. /rantover :P (I had a very bad experience in Sweden as you might guess!)
    :confused: that would be considered an invasion of personal space in pretty much every western culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭turnikett1


    :confused: that would be considered an invasion of personal space in pretty much every western culture.

    I would beg to differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Siem reap. Even bigger dump

    Really? Siem Reap is fine in comparison to Phnom Penh. At least in Siem Reap you don't have child prostitution so openly on display.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,932 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    :confused: that would be considered an invasion of personal space in pretty much every western culture.

    How is that an invasion of personal space? A bus is a public mode of transport so there will be other members of the public.
    I couldn't give a toss if someone sat next to me and I'd sit next to someone as well if I had no choice.
    If they decided to stand up the moment I get next to them I'd ask what the fook their problem is.


  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alan Unsightly Fish


    turnikett1 wrote: »
    My friend is an Irishwoman in Sweden. She said she was on a full bus once, and the only seat available was beside some young woman. She sat down beside her and the woman decided to spend the rest of the bus journey STANDING UP! Madness I tell ye. Poor girl is going mental over there

    Okay that IS pushing it a bit...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    If you had no choice is the point. If you have a choice, you should pick another seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Anyone who describes a city as "boring" is really just telling us more about themselves than the city imho. A city can't be boring.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    turnikett1 wrote: »
    My friend is an Irishwoman in Sweden. She said she was on a full bus once, and the only seat available was beside some young woman. She sat down beside her and the woman decided to spend the rest of the bus journey STANDING UP! Madness I tell ye. Poor girl is going mental over there

    I spent 6 months in Stockholm and never saw this and I was trying to sit beside as many young wans as I could!


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