Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

bilston · 13-04-2014 12:53AM

Morf wrote: »

Last time I saw Ludik he had a serious moustache going.

Going on that Ulster should sign him.

The 1980s were like 30 years ago...

.ak · 14-04-2014 09:14AM

bilston wrote: »

The 1980s were like 30 years ago...

Depends on where abouts in Ulster you live.

case885 · 14-04-2014 01:36PM

Hagz wrote: »

But in all seriousness, the signing of Ludik (unconfirmed though it may) suggests that Payne will move to 13 next season.

Would cave be moving then if that happens?

jacothelad · 14-04-2014 01:48PM

case885 wrote: »

Would cave be moving then if that happens?

Payne will fill in for Cave while Darren is away with Ireland.

:D:D

I am pie · 14-04-2014 01:48PM

case885 wrote: »

Would cave be moving then if that happens?

Would be tough on Cave, Anscombe might think that 13-Payne/15-Ludik is better than 13-Cave/15-Payne though.

Not seen enough of the other lad to have an opinion. I guess our ambition should be to have internationals in as many positions as possible.

irishbucsfan · 14-04-2014 01:51PM

Cave is too good to be 2nd choice. He should definitely move to Leinster...

.ak · 14-04-2014 01:53PM

Not sure why people think a player coming in means a player moving on. Cave can play 12 as well as 13 and may or may not be required for Irish camps. At the moment outside of Payne there's no real genuine threat at 15 for Ulster. What if there's an injury before a HEC game? Ulster are blessed with Payne because he can play anywhere but if needs be they'd be screwed without a decent backup at 15. All the young players coming through seem to be excellent centres and solid wings.

jacothelad · 14-04-2014 03:09PM

I am pie wrote: »

Would be tough on Cave, Anscombe might think that 13-Payne/15-Ludik is better than 13-Cave/15-Payne though.

Not seen enough of the other lad to have an opinion. I guess our ambition should be to have internationals in as many positions as possible.

On all the evidence I've seen, Cave is a much better 13 than Payne. On the other hand, Payne at 15 is superb. We should wait until Ludik's signing is confirmed before getting any more convoluted mechanisms in an endeavour to squeeze the best 15 in Ireland into a shirt better filled by someone else I think.

bilston · 14-04-2014 03:13PM

On the basis of what I've seen of Payne at 13 (and I didn't see him.play there for the Blues), Tommy Bowe is a much better option. Maybe that is something that both Ulster and Ireland should be investigating. The form of Trimble, the return of Earls, Fitzgerald and the potential of Zebo and Gilroy could allow for this. That said Bowe is our best winger so maybe that is where he should stay.

shuffol · 14-04-2014 03:50PM

I dont think Bowe's passing is good enough for midfield, plus he's one of the best footballing wings in the world which you'd lose a lot of if he's in the center.

bilston · 14-04-2014 07:20PM

Put a 12 who can pass alongside him and he would be fine. He is one of the best offloaders/pop passers around at the minute, but yes anything over 5 metres can sometimes be a test for him!

CatFromHue · 14-04-2014 07:33PM

Any more news on Paddy Wallace?

Buer · 14-04-2014 07:39PM

There are plenty of outside centres around now who don't have much of a passing game. Once they can give a standard pass off either hand and are able to offload decently they're in business and Bowe can certainly do those things.

Guys like Bastareaud, Burrell and Tuilagi are not anything special with in terms of passing. Even the great BOD wasn't a fantastic passer. I think Bowe has enough footballing talent to be am effective centre. If he could do it well for the Lions, it's worth looking into.

Swiwi. · 14-04-2014 07:45PM

I haven't really heard of Ludik, so that makes me think he's probably a van den Heever-type selection. Probably decent enough, but not a Habana or Le Roux...or Payne or Kearney. However, that doesn't mean he won't prove to have the goods.

bilston · 14-04-2014 07:49PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Any more news on Paddy Wallace?

Sadly I fear he is done. Apparently his knee didn't react well on his return.

Sad as that is for Paddy this is what I worry about with regards to Stuart Olding who has his entire career ahead of him. Anyway if confirmed it will be a sad end to Paddy's career. He probably discovered 12 was his best position too late in his career.

bilston · 14-04-2014 07:51PM

Swiwi. wrote: »

I haven't really heard of Ludik, so that makes me think he's probably a van den Heever-type selection. Probably decent enough, but not a Habana or Le Roux...or Payne or Kearney. However, that doesn't mean he won't prove to have the goods.

We don't need a world class back though (assuming we don't lose Payne), Ludik seems like he will fit the bill perfectly and despite the fears in my previous post we also have Olding returning so whatever about our pack we will have a stronger set of backs next season.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 14-04-2014 07:53PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Any more news on Paddy Wallace?

He has almost certainly played his last.

awec · 15-04-2014 09:10PM

Ricky Andrew and Ricky Lutton have both signed pro contracts.

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/News/LatestNews/TabId/149/ArtMID/793/ArticleID/1425/Lutton-and-Andrew-agree-full-time-contracts-with-Ulster-.aspx

Both are decent squad players. Good enough signings.

awec · 17-04-2014 11:43AM

Ulster XV and replacements to face Glasgow Warriors, RaboDirect PRO12, Scotstoun Stadium, Friday 18th April (kick off 19:35)

(15-9): R Andrew, T Bowe, D Cave, L Marshall, A Trimble, P Jackson, P Marshall; (1-8): T Court, R Herring, R Lutton, J Muller (Captain), I Henderson, C Henry, S Doyle, N Williams; Replacements (16-23): N Annett, A Warwick, D Fitzpatrick, L Stevenson, M McComish, M Heaney, J McKinney, C Gilroy.

Bowe back to the wing. Henderson starts in the second row again. No Ferris again. Fitzpatrick returns from wherever he was.

CatFromHue · 17-04-2014 11:54AM

That's a fairly weak bench.

Glasgow will be favourites for this I think.

yuinc · 17-04-2014 11:55AM

Ferris injured his ankle... hopefully its his good one..

bilston · 17-04-2014 12:32PM

yuinc wrote: »

Ferris injured his ankle... hopefully its his good one..

Aye, its a bit worrying. Hopefully nothing to worry about.

.ak · 17-04-2014 12:37PM

Being out for that long it takes a while for your body to get accustomed to playing again, you'll easily pick up little knocks and strains, even just getting your running balance back will take a while. I suspect Ferris will probably pick up a few niggles between now and the off season. In a way it's great for him to get this into his system now, then he'll have a strong pre-season.

awec · 17-04-2014 12:53PM

.ak wrote: »

Being out for that long it takes a while for your body to get accustomed to playing again, you'll easily pick up little knocks and strains, even just getting your running balance back will take a while. I suspect Ferris will probably pick up a few niggles between now and the off season. In a way it's great for him to get this into his system now, then he'll have a strong pre-season.

Agreed - got to expect a bit of pain.

For what it's worth he's taking part in the Circuit of Ireland on Saturday (some motor racing type thing - not exactly sure what it is).

overshoot · 17-04-2014 01:11PM

awec wrote: »

Agreed - got to expect a bit of pain.

For what it's worth he's taking part in the Circuit of Ireland on Saturday (some motor racing type thing - not exactly sure what it is).

Rallying round, part of the Irish Tarmac Rally Championship, Northern Ireland Rally Championship & this year the European Rally Championship.
Used to follow a huge coastline route thus 'circuit of ireland' but now confined to one area like most rallies and kept the name.

Must be taking part in an historic or junior section or something like that if he is only doing 1 day

former legend · 17-04-2014 01:21PM

yuinc wrote: »

Ferris injured his ankle... hopefully its his good one..

Does he have a good one?

jacothelad · 17-04-2014 10:01PM

awec wrote: »

Ulster XV and replacements to face Glasgow Warriors, RaboDirect PRO12, Scotstoun Stadium, Friday 18th April (kick off 19:35)

(15-9): R Andrew, T Bowe, D Cave, L Marshall, A Trimble, P Jackson, P Marshall; (1-8): T Court, R Herring, R Lutton, J Muller (Captain), I Henderson, C Henry, S Doyle, N Williams; Replacements (16-23): N Annett, A Warwick, D Fitzpatrick, L Stevenson, M McComish, M Heaney, J McKinney, C Gilroy.

Bowe back to the wing. Henderson starts in the second row again. No Ferris again. Fitzpatrick returns from wherever he was.

Has been suffering from chronic migraines since January... after a concussion.:eek:

awec · 17-04-2014 10:08PM

jacothelad wrote: »

Has been suffering from chronic migraines since January... after a concussion.:eek:

That sounds... bad?

Buer · 19-04-2014 09:03AM

Some injury list for Ulster in the front row at this point (as it was last season).

Front row of Warwick, Herring and Macklin for rest of season?

jacothelad · 19-04-2014 09:21AM

Buer wrote: »

Some injury list for Ulster in the front row at this point (as it was last season).

Front row of Warwick, Herring and Macklin for rest of season?

Need to name 4 props. MCall is now a hooker so the cupboard is bare unless we can parachute 4 emergency props in. Would Leinster lend us Furlong?????

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