Liverpool v Man City. Sun April 13th KO 13:37 SS1, Important Mod Warning in OP.

DDC1990 · 14-04-2014 01:46PM

messinkiapina wrote: »

City deserved something from the game yesterday, but we deserved something from the game in December. I think points shared over the 2 games is perfectly fair.

In fact Chelsea should be disappointed.

Instead of 2 draws (2 points each - 4 total) it was a win each (3 points each - 6 total).

Nerdlingr · 14-04-2014 01:51PM

Fair play to clattenburg yesterday, was consistent with his decisons. Never booked Dzeko for his 'dive' in the first half and consequently didnt book Suarez (or Milner) for his in the second. Good officiating.

SantryRed · 14-04-2014 03:31PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

The ref was too quick to give out cards early on and that gave him a problem in regards to Suarez, who probably should have been booked for diving. When he didn't get booked he couldn't book milner for it either.
Clattenburg is one of the poorer refs and yesterday it probably went in our favour.

Regardless of giving out cards early to other players, Suarez had to be booked for his tackle. His tackle on Demichelis was too late to just be allowed go with a warning.

SantryRed · 14-04-2014 03:32PM

citytillidie wrote: »

No one appealed for it, and nothing was said until a slow montion reply was viewed

It was still a penalty though. You couldn't blame Clattenburg for missing it though.

I thought all four penalty incidents were penalties yday to be honest. At least Clattenburg was consistent in not giving any of them! :pac:

14-04-2014 04:42PM

Gary Neville said dive straight away before analysing it at all.

There was contact. Suarez made a ridiculous meal of it and tbh I thought there was no contact until I watched MOTD last night and there certainly was.

Neville isn't the genius pundit everyone makes him out to be.

He was shouting dive when Kompany fouled Suarez. Again Suarez went down easy but it was a foul.

They also mentioned missed the handball from Skrtel.

Hangballlouie · 14-04-2014 04:50PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Gary Neville said dive straight away before analysing it at all.

There was contact. Suarez made a ridiculous meal of it and tbh I thought there was no contact until I watched MOTD last night and there certainly was.

Neville isn't the genius pundit everyone makes him out to be.

He was shouting dive when Kompany fouled Suarez. Again Suarez went down easy but it was a foul.

They also mentioned missed the handball from Skrtel.

I've noticed it more the last few weeks. He said Flanagan did the ref last week and he was wrong, same yesterday. I think we know which he'd rather his wife to run off with.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-04-2014 04:57PM

Anyone got a link to the MOTD highlights?

14-04-2014 05:03PM

hangballlouie wrote: »

I've noticed it more the last few weeks. He said Flanagan did the ref last week and he was wrong, same yesterday. I think we know which he'd rather his wife to run off with.

He's better suited to the studio anyway tbh. Not great in the commentary box.

gosplan · 14-04-2014 07:32PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Fair play to clattenburg yesterday, was consistent with his decisons. Never booked Dzeko for his 'dive' in the first half and consequently didnt book Suarez (or Milner) for his in the second. Good officiating.

Consistant bad reffing is still bad, it's just consistant.

There's yellows for diving for a reason.

It's a shocking inditement of how exposed the refs are and how little support they get that in the biggest game of the season, the ref simply removed contentious decisions. No one was getting a penalty and no-one was getting booked(or sent off as it would have been for Suarez) for diving.

citytillidie · 14-04-2014 07:39PM

gosplan wrote: »

Consistant bad reffing is still bad, it's just consistant.

There's yellows for diving for a reason.

It's a shocking inditement of how exposed the refs are and how little support they get that in the biggest game of the season, the ref simply removed contentious decisions. No one was getting a penalty and no-one was getting booked(or sent off as it would have been for Suarez) for diving.

But Suarez did not dive, he went down easy each time there was contact

niallo27 · 14-04-2014 08:24PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Gary Neville said dive straight away before analysing it at all.

There was contact. Suarez made a ridiculous meal of it and tbh I thought there was no contact until I watched MOTD last night and there certainly was.

Neville isn't the genius pundit everyone makes him out to be.

He was shouting dive when Kompany fouled Suarez. Again Suarez went down easy but it was a foul.

They also mentioned missed the handball from Skrtel.

I think Neville was ok up to a few weeks ago as I'm sure he though liverpool wouldn't win the league but now he is a worried man. I think it would kill him if liverpool won it

gosplan · 14-04-2014 08:56PM

citytillidie wrote: »

But Suarez did not dive, he went down easy each time there was contact

Sarcasm detector malfunction?

Eight Ball · 14-04-2014 08:57PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I think Neville was ok up to a few weeks ago as I'm sure he though liverpool wouldn't win the league but now he is a worried man. I think it would kill him if liverpool won it

My thoughts exactly. His true colours are coming out now tbh.

OwaynOTT · 14-04-2014 09:00PM

SantryRed wrote: »

Regardless of giving out cards early to other players, Suarez had to be booked for his tackle. His tackle on Demichelis was too late to just be allowed go with a warning.

Not debating that the tackle did not warrant a card but usually in the bigger games like that the refs let a few off at the start and just tell them to calm down. He could have done that, as oncve he booked Suarez he booked others not too long after that were a bit harsh.

Grayditch · 14-04-2014 09:15PM

Neville's a good pundit. Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm glad he's rattled and showing it. He's a human with emotions and he's also still a United fan, so let him be upset like a lot of United fans. No reason he should be let off :pac:

Will I Amnt · 14-04-2014 09:21PM

Ah but sure wasn't he brilliant not so long ago when he was defending Suarez's right to go down. He's great when he's on your side...

"Even Neville said it was a pen"

5live · 14-04-2014 09:35PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Not debating that the tackle did not warrant a card but usually in the bigger games like that the refs let a few off at the start and just tell them to calm down. He could have done that, as oncve he booked Suarez he booked others not too long after that were a bit harsh.

The ref made a stick to beat himself with with the early booking.

Yes it deserved a booking but just like defenders not making a stupid tackle early and getting booked, the same applies to refs too, imo.

There would be plenty of time left to book a player for a tackle/dive after a warning to calm down was ignored.

14-04-2014 09:35PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

My thoughts exactly. His true colours are coming out now tbh.

He was a closet United fan all along alright

SlickRic · 14-04-2014 09:42PM

Gary Neville in hating Liverpool shocker.

He's a great pundit, but asking him to commentate on that game was always going to bring out some gutteral emotion. It's hard to censor yourself on live commentary and come across objective.

He's entitled to want Liverpool nowhere near the title.

I wouldn't want it any other way.

Chucky the tree · 14-04-2014 09:47PM

The Neville comments are a bit bizarre. Wow, the guy didn't realise Suarez touched and called it a dive without the aid of super-duper slow motion. Clearly he has a chip on his shoulder.

He's a commentator. He's obviously going to get things wrong when he calls things live. I thought Suarez dived as well, does that make me a liverpool hater?

5starpool · 14-04-2014 10:10PM

Even if Neville wass somewhat biased against Liverpool it wouldn't bother me too much. I don't think he is though in terms of how he calls things generally.

Knex* · 15-04-2014 08:00AM

Have great respect for Neville as a pundit. Considering the hate he had for Liverpool while wearing United colours, he does remarkably well to restrain himself while on tv, I feel :pac:

He calls it as he sees it, and I think its very understandable that he thought Suares dived. Most of us did at the time.

SM01 · 15-04-2014 08:09AM

Echoing the last three posts, Neville is a grand commentator and it's a non-debate. Nearly everyone (including Neville) thought Suarez wasn't touched and it took a BBC slow-mo replay from a specific angle to clarify he was. It's expected that Neville's commentary is informed by his United career which is fine by me and I find him consistently balanced, impartial and often insightful.

Grayditch · 15-04-2014 08:11AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Ah but sure wasn't he brilliant not so long ago when he was defending Suarez's right to go down. He's great when he's on your side...

"Even Neville said it was a pen"

I'm not sure the ones slating him now, defended him them and/or vice versa.

Bandana boy · 15-04-2014 08:14AM

If Neville did not have a bias towards Man u ,then I would find him fake. As it is it's clear he wants Man u to do well but he tends to discuss incidents fairly and you cant ask for much more than that.

Vicxas · 15-04-2014 08:33AM

Bandana boy wrote: »

If Neville did not have a bias towards Man u ,then I would find him fake. As it is it's clear he wants Man u to do well but he tends to discuss incidents fairly and you cant ask for much more than that.

Same with Garragher, still biased to Liverpool but can still make critical comments about them.

Its nice to see.

gafferino · 15-04-2014 08:35AM

From the match day programme, City took a full page advert to mark the 96.

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willowthewisp · 15-04-2014 08:40AM

Wrong thread

gafferino · 15-04-2014 08:47AM

willowthewisp wrote: »

Wrong thread

No its not. This is from the match day program on Sunday. It had previously been posted in the Liverpool thread (closed today as a mark of respect in case you hadnt noticed).
This is a fitting place for it and shows the class of Man City. Their fans were impeccable too in the minute silence.
The ad was a nice touch.

Knex* · 15-04-2014 08:57AM

willowthewisp wrote: »

Wrong thread

I would seriously doubt that, considering its been posted in this thread about 5 times now.

Sorry gafferino! :pac:

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