Which Type of Grass Harrow

PN14 · 28-03-2014 03:12PM #1

Looking for advice as to which harrow type is best for poached ground and general grass maintenance, the older traditional chain type mats (beaconsfield type), or the cast iron ring mats with levelling bar (ritchie type)

Asked this question last year but didn't really get a definite answer then the weather turned and places dried up I never actually bought a harrow. Thinking of purchasing again now. I can buy both within about 5 miles of home for similar money both 12 or 14ft mounted units.

We would have heavyish ground if this would make a difference as to which type in better. Both salesmen reckon their type is superior to the other.

Any opinions? Anyone use both in their time and what did ye find better? Most reason for buying would be for repairing any poached areas. All field s would have been reseeded relatively recently so would be using it on any older lays.

onyerbikepat · 28-03-2014 03:51PM

I bought one of these last year. It's a heavy duty Hackett type with 7/16" tines so it should last a lifetime if minded. It is made up of 2 four ft sections. It can be worked 3 ways, on it's back, tines back at high angle and tines back at low angle.

http://www.williamhackett.co.uk/products/chain_harrows/paddock_harrows/s-444

PN14 · 28-03-2014 04:17PM

Thanks Pat how do you find it? Was it for repairing poached ground you got it and what kind of a job did it do for you? What type of soil would you have?

It was a mounted version of one of these I was thinking of or else this type

onyerbikepat · 28-03-2014 04:27PM

Bought it for repairing all the poaching damage done last year. I used it in the mid way, with the tines back at a high angle. Very happy with it. Don't have a lot of experience with other types so cant compare.
I plan to maybe use it for scrathing the land too for reseeding. We'll see. It may need a weight added on top for this.
Land here is all types.:D Upland with good red earth to low lying corcas type.
The main reason I went with this type is it looked the most sturdy of all. Seen enough of other types on Donedeal in bits to stay away from those types.

PN14 · 28-03-2014 04:47PM

Cheers Pat. Similar set up here with regard land type with plenty of corcas land which invariably gets some poaching every year around troughs and gaps etc. Very few harrows around local and if possible I want to get one that suits land type etc. I don't mind paying for a thing as long as it does what you want it to.

Reggie. · 28-03-2014 07:50PM

We use an einboch. It's expensive but does a great job on grass growth

28-03-2014 08:16PM

Reggie. wrote: »

We use an einboch. It's expensive but does a great job on grass growth

Be interested to know what sorta money they are.... They look the business to me with the seeding kit

agriman27 · 28-03-2014 08:23PM

I priced them this week a 3metre is 2500+ vat and a 4.5metre is 4300+vat pity they're so dear I hear they're a good yolk

Greengrass1 · 28-03-2014 09:04PM

agriman27 wrote: »

I priced them this week a 3metre is 2500+ vat and a 4.5metre is 4300+vat pity they're so dear I hear they're a good yolk

A few pop up on DD the odd time if ye keep your eyes on it ye might get a good one

Reggie. · 28-03-2014 11:09PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

A few pop up on DD the odd time if ye keep your eyes on it ye might get a good one

Ya nearly want to buy new as they are easy broke tbh

Greengrass1 · 28-03-2014 11:10PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Ya nearly want to buy new as they are easy broke tbh

seen a few in good condition on it though

Reggie. · 28-03-2014 11:11PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

seen a few in good condition on it though

The tines are where the money is and hard to see them broke or bentt on a photo

Greengrass1 · 28-03-2014 11:20PM

Reggie. wrote: »

The tines are where the money is and hard to see them broke or bentt on a photo

Are they dear?

Reggie. · 28-03-2014 11:23PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Are they dear?

I think a fiver a tine. Now I could be wrong as I haven't looked for any in a while

agriman27 · 28-03-2014 11:37PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I think a fiver a tine. Now I could be wrong as I haven't looked for any in a while

Would you buy one that might need all he tines replaced if ya got it cheap enough or do you think the whole steel in the body and tine bed of it would be shook aswell

Reggie. · 28-03-2014 11:46PM

agriman27 wrote: »

Would you buy one that might need all he tines replaced if ya got it cheap enough or do you think the whole steel in the body and tine bed of it would be shook aswell

They ain't too strong and have to be minded

agriman27 · 29-03-2014 12:18AM

Reggie. wrote: »

They ain't too strong and have to be minded

Thanks it's good to hear the real truth about them. Did you ever use yours to reseed by just spraying off with round up and using the einbock to ruff it up an sow the seed, that's what I'd be hoping to try and use it for because my ground doesn't suit ploughing

Reggie. · 29-03-2014 01:03AM

agriman27 wrote: »

Thanks it's good to hear the real truth about them. Did you ever use yours to reseed by just spraying off with round up and using the einbock to ruff it up an sow the seed, that's what I'd be hoping to try and use it for because my ground doesn't suit ploughing

It can be done but the seeder is 1200 again on top of the 4500. Wouldn't mind giving it a go sometime but trying to get the FIL to agree is another thing altogether

satstheway · 29-03-2014 09:31AM

How do you rate the rakeman on dd? Irish made . Do they all have adjustable tines like this?

Reggie. · 29-03-2014 10:36AM

satstheway wrote: »

How do you rate the rakeman on dd? Irish made . Do they all have adjustable tines like this?

Very same as the einboch only stronger built. Would hold up to more abuse. It uses the same seeder as the einboch but can't be got as wide as the einboch. 3m is the width of it.
Prices should be as follows (there abouts)
Einboch 4.5 with hyd folding is €5000
Einboch 3m is €3500
Rakeman 3m is €2950
Rotaspreader seeder for either harrow is €1200
All them prices include vat.

onyerbikepat · 29-03-2014 02:00PM

You could use your fertiliser spreader and just pull the harrow behind it.

PN14 · 31-03-2014 10:18AM

Seen the rakeman & einboch types on DD alright they do look the business to be fair but I doubt the budget would extend that far.

nhg · 14-04-2014 05:58AM

After following Reggie's posts, took the plunge & bought the Rakeman 3000, it cost €2700. Didn't bother with the seeder as it can be purchased later on (in the region of €850).

Very happy so far. Below is a picture from a spot where the cattle had a made track up a hill and around a quarry heading to the water tank before being harrowed.

nhg · 14-04-2014 06:00AM

This is the same spot after a few runs of the harrow, threw a few grass seeds on it, will spread fertiliser today as this is one of the fields we plan on cutting pit silage on.

Reggie. · 14-04-2014 06:55AM

Good to hear it's working out for you

I said · 14-04-2014 10:46AM

nhg wrote: »

This is the same spot after a few runs of the harrow, threw a few grass seeds on it, will spread fertiliser today as this is one of the fields we plan on cutting pit silage on.

Fair job lad

fixitagaintomo · 14-04-2014 01:30PM

Any use on moss?

PN14 · 14-04-2014 01:40PM

Anyone notice more moss than normal in fields this year. I noticed in a couple of paddocks that there is some moss creeping in. I can't say I ever noticed much of it until this year.

GrandSoftDay · 14-04-2014 01:44PM

PN14 wrote: »

Anyone notice more moss than normal in fields this year. I noticed in a couple of paddocks that there is some moss creeping in. I can't say I ever noticed much of it until this year.

Ya, I noticed the same thing here!

Sami23 · 14-04-2014 01:54PM

PN14 wrote: »

Anyone notice more moss than normal in fields this year. I noticed in a couple of paddocks that there is some moss creeping in. I can't say I ever noticed much of it until this year.

Anyone know how to reduce or get rid of moss in normal conditions ?

Muckit · 14-04-2014 02:02PM

Nitrogen+S (sulphur) I think a few lads said. Isn't it sulphate of iron that is used on lawns?

also a rattle of a chain or grass tine harrow wouldn't do any harm

Which Type of Grass Harrow

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