Importation of a medical product, WHAT A JOKE

benki11 · 27-03-2014 03:14PM #1

Importation of a medical product, WHAT A JOKE

Quote:
Dear Benki11

it has come to the attention of the Irish medicines board(IBM)Hyatt you imported the following medical product(s) into Ireland from USA

Loperamide (imudium)

The iMB holds the view that the product listed are medicinal product "any substance or combination of substances presented as having properties for threading or preventing dismisses in human beings......"

the the listed product above are prescription only medicinal products pursuant to the terms of the medicinal products(prescription and control of supply)Regulations 2003 as amended, the product may only be supply in pharmacy outlet on production of a prescription issued by a registered medical practitioner or registed dentist.

these product contain the prescription only medicinal product(s)

Loperamide

you are requested, within two weeks from the date of this latter to

1. State the specific sales outlet from witch you ordered and purchased these products
2.How you become aware of supply outlet
3.please state method of payment you used .......... Quote ended"

first imodiom -Loperamide it is NOT prescription only in Ireland because I buy it regularly in every pharmacy OTC !!!!!
i bought it here http://www.ebay.ie/itm/290905054840?...84.m1439.l2649

And what do you lads think I should do Ignore , respond or pretend I never receive letter as it wasn't registered ?

thank you

gavindublin · 27-03-2014 03:19PM

Ive had to deal with these clowns on a few occasions. I ignored them one of the times and they came out to the house with police!

But on another occasion I argued their stupidity and got my stuff back.

If can show a receipt for it bought otc and legit then id engage with them and get your bits back.

The questions are standard they ask them of everyone.

Their office used to be near harcourt street and quite easy to get to. Id say go get your stuff back!

JOSman · 27-03-2014 03:22PM

Who are Hyatt?

This is part of the closed network of medical scams in this country to keep the wealthy in the comfort that the government has afforded them. The point being that you cannot buy prescription drugs in another European country and bring them home either.

You might not have a lot of spare cash but doesn't mean you'll catch a break.

Good luck.

benki11 · 27-03-2014 03:27PM

gavindublin wrote: »

Ive had to deal with these clowns on a few occasions. I ignored them one of the times and they came out to the house with police!

But on another occasion I argued their stupidity and got my stuff back.

If can show a receipt for it bought otc and legit then id engage with them and get your bits back.

The questions are standard they ask them of everyone.

Their office used to be near harcourt street and quite easy to get to. Id say go get your stuff back!

What should i do with letter ?
If I answer I admit and hardly I believe they'll send police in house for Imodium or .......?

And you said them come with police so what police did do and what happend to you?
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L1011 · 27-03-2014 03:33PM

The drug being available OTC is irrelevant if that preparation of it isn't licensed in Ireland. Which its not.

gavindublin · 27-03-2014 03:38PM

Said I never ordered or recieved a parcel with any of the documents they had in their possession.

They asked to view my laptop, I asked to view the warrant. They had none and left. It was all half arsed.

Ring and ask them to explain the letter to you before you answer any of their questions

benki11 · 27-03-2014 04:40PM

Will my address now be blacklisted and every letter open ?

homer911 · 27-03-2014 07:13PM

Its a public health concern as well

Medicines sold in Ireland go through approved suppliers and a licensing process. Counterfeiters are producing just about every medicine imaginable and there can be no certainty it will do what it says - often these are basically sugar pills..

Seen Dallas Buyers Club yet?

benki11 · 27-03-2014 09:20PM

homer911 wrote: »

Its a public health concern as well

Medicines sold in Ireland go through approved suppliers and a licensing process. Counterfeiters are producing just about every medicine imaginable and there can be no certainty it will do what it says - often these are basically sugar pills..

Seen Dallas Buyers Club yet?

Yaya we not talking abot prescription medicine here we talking about medicine you could buy in Tesco , so only reason them doing this is make us buy 1000 times more expensive pills here in Ireland !
What a country Ireland has become , shame ......

L1011 · 27-03-2014 09:31PM

benki11 wrote: »

Yaya we not talking abot prescription medicine here we talking about medicine you could buy in Tesco , so only reason them doing this is make us buy 1000 times more expensive pills here in Ireland !
What a country Ireland has become , shame ......

Become? This has been the legal situation here for years if not decades - the 2003 regulations were a replacement set covering much the same things in this area.

Fred Swanson · 27-03-2014 09:53PM

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kc90 · 27-03-2014 11:19PM

benki11 wrote: »

Yaya we not talking abot prescription medicine here we talking about medicine you could buy in Tesco , so only reason them doing this is make us buy 1000 times more expensive pills here in Ireland !
What a country Ireland has become , shame ......

Prescription changes nothing. You have no idea about the conditions these drugs are made under, nor can anyone verify the process. There's a such a huge risk when people buy counterfeit drugs or from a non reputable source. In some cases, people are lucky if they only receive sugar pills, it could be any sort of 'filler' that's used.

This will give you the idea of some of these operations:

Padraig Mor · 28-03-2014 10:28AM

MYOB wrote: »

The drug being available OTC is irrelevant if that preparation of it isn't licensed in Ireland. Which its not.

But the OP's letter seems to suggest the IMB are claiming that Loperamide generally is prescription only. By preparation do you mean brand, or the formulation? AFAIK loperamide 2mg is the standard preparation sold here. Re conditions of manufacture etc - it's hardly fake Viagra or something we're talking about here, only loperamide!

L1011 · 28-03-2014 10:40AM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

But the OP's letter seems to suggest the IMB are claiming that Loperamide generally is prescription only. By preparation do you mean brand, or the formulation? AFAIK loperamide 2mg is the standard preparation sold here. Re conditions of manufacture etc - it's hardly fake Viagra or something we're talking about here, only loperamide!

Brand + pack size. There are no OTC 200 packs licenced in Ireland, let alone that brand. Hence that preparation is prescription only as an unlicenced medicine.

Loperamide is an opiod receptor agonist so there is good reason to ensure its manufactured properly.

Alun · 28-03-2014 12:17PM

Regardless of the legal and counterfeit issues I'm wondering why anyone would need that many of the things. If I was using them at a rate that justified buying 400 at a time, I'd be heading straight to my doctor.

L1011 · 28-03-2014 12:45PM

Alun wrote: »

Regardless of the legal and counterfeit issues I'm wondering why anyone would need that many of the things. If I was using them at a rate that justified buying 400 at a time, I'd be heading straight to my doctor.

Very long-term use of loperamide in cases of IBS is not unheard of, and could easily have been what the doctor recommended anyway.

skelligs · 30-03-2014 05:16PM

suppose if the OP came ill after consuming fake medicine, he / she would be claiming that more controls should be brought in. I think in Ireland the maximum a family of adults and children can spend of medicines every month is €150. After that every medicine required is refunded no matter what the cost. I think it is a good system. Imagine, all your family medicine for €1800 a year maximum, no matter how much your earn.

I have recently returned from the UK. Yes, you pay a small prescription fee and and your gp care and medicines are "free". However, unless you have an emergency and go to hospital, it can be 2 or even 3 weeks to get a GP appointment.

If you do have to go to a&e, think of the worst situation here and double it. This is my experience in Bishops stortford in the very recent past and Harlow a&e is meant to be one of the better ones.

wmpdd3 · 30-03-2014 09:37PM

I have ordered many medicines from chemists in the UK and they all arrived. Most generics I ordered were made in CLonmel anyway!, but were only for sale in the UK.

The only pack that was intercepted was one with 36 paracetamol 500mg and a bottle of gripe water.

Neither were licensed for Ireland so they took them, I received a different letter though, it just said items not for sale in Ireland, so confiscated etc.

I ordered the day I got the letter and received the next packet.

I have also gotten relatives to get me generic OTC meds in Wales and bring them back..

OP was the letter written with all those grammar mistakes or did you rewrite it to post it?

Fred Swanson · 30-03-2014 09:44PM

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benki11 · 30-03-2014 11:43PM

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I have ordered many medicines from chemists in the UK and they all arrived. Most generics I ordered were made in CLonmel anyway!, but were only for sale in the UK.

The only pack that was intercepted was one with 36 paracetamol 500mg and a bottle of gripe water.

Neither were licensed for Ireland so they took them, I received a different letter though, it just said items not for sale in Ireland, so confiscated etc.

I ordered the day I got the letter and received the next packet.

I have also gotten relatives to get me generic OTC meds in Wales and bring them back..

OP was the letter written with all those grammar mistakes or did you rewrite it to post it?

Probably my fault gramma mean !

benki11 · 30-03-2014 11:45PM

Alun wrote: »

Regardless of the legal and counterfeit issues I'm wondering why anyone would need that many of the things. If I was using them at a rate that justified buying 400 at a time, I'd be heading straight to my doctor.

I bought cause 20 of those in pharmacy here cast same price as 400 in USA
Does that make sense ?

benki11 · 30-03-2014 11:45PM

Well week to go , i decided to ignore letter , will see what will happened !!
Hopefully no Police will Be searching my house

irishgeo · 02-04-2014 11:43PM

benki11 wrote: »

Well week to go , i decided to ignore letter , will see what will happened !!
Hopefully no Police will Be searching my house

you dont have to let them inside the door without a warrant.

hfallada · 02-04-2014 11:51PM

The IMB are constantly on the look out for imported medicine. One being the abortion pill, which they destroy thousands of every year.

I know from a friend being a nurse, that a patient in the hospital brought diet pills online and ended up with her bowel being destroyed. The teenager will now have to use a colostomy bag for her life.

But the whole law to protect consumer crosses the line. When Irish medicine has a pill per box size unique to Ireland. Paracetamol in the UK has 16 tablets per box and costs around 15p in Boots or Sainsbury. But a packet of paracetamol cant be greater than 12 a strip in Ireland, meaning UK paracetamol cant be sold here. Therefore we have to pay about 20 times the UK Price

benki11 · 03-04-2014 12:28AM

irishgeo wrote: »

you dont have to let them inside the door without a warrant.

Thanks Mate

If they manage to get warrant for poop pills bought from Ebay well I'll welcome
Them in but as you said without warrant NO !
And I ll say did t order those pills so let court prove I did !
Now I ll do such thing in way of rebel against them and against buying chipper OTC repeat OTC medicine & them lying to me is only prespriction medicine wich obviously NOT!!!!
Those people have right to lie to me ask me ditails of my credit card and letting sick people die just to not buy cheaper pills abroad witch can save there life's , and downgrading other countries as only Ireland check there medicine and other countries sell poison to their people , because Ireland is only propor country in whole world rest of them are scam !!

Sheme on them !!!

recipio · 03-04-2014 10:57AM

Better to stick to the UK market and use PM for value. In reality someone has to protect people from importing unknown chemicals from dubious sources. What annoys me about the IMB is their insistence on smaller packs of standard drugs like Paracetamol - what is good enough for UK citizens should be good enough for us.

L1011 · 03-04-2014 11:07AM

benki11 wrote: »

Thanks Mate

If they manage to get warrant for poop pills bought from Ebay well I'll welcome
Them in but as you said without warrant NO !
And I ll say did t order those pills so let court prove I did !
Now I ll do such thing in way of rebel against them and against buying chipper OTC repeat OTC medicine & them lying to me is only prespriction medicine wich obviously NOT!!!!
Those people have right to lie to me ask me ditails of my credit card and letting sick people die just to not buy cheaper pills abroad witch can save there life's , and downgrading other countries as only Ireland check there medicine and other countries sell poison to their people , because Ireland is only propor country in whole world rest of them are scam !!

Sheme on them !!!

What condition are you going to die from if you don't get loperamide?

You seem ridiculous over-entitled and completely unwilling to accept that you've been caught breaking the law here. You've also given more than enough info to ensure that the IMB can tell who you are and that you not only received the letter but did order the product.

benki11 · 03-04-2014 01:30PM

MYOB wrote: »

What condition are you going to die from if you don't get loperamide?

You seem ridiculous over-entitled and completely unwilling to accept that you've been caught breaking the law here. You've also given more than enough info to ensure that the IMB can tell who you are and that you not only received the letter but did order the product.

Letter come up to me not registerd found it on my floor, so I ll deny it,
And if you don t have medicine in your hands you order nothing , cause if that would be case I could send anything illigal to someone I hate ,I call on Garda and opss they ll end up in prison for life , my god you so smart !!!!!

L1011 · 03-04-2014 02:05PM

benki11 wrote: »

Letter come up to me not registerd found it on my floor, so I ll deny it,
And if you don t have medicine in your hands you order nothing , cause if that would be case I could send anything illigal to someone I hate ,I call on Garda and opss they ll end up in prison for life , my god you so smart !!!!!

You've now admitted, repeatedly, in a public forum that you did receive the letter and that you did order the products though.

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2014 02:08PM

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L1011 · 03-04-2014 02:10PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Plenty of pretty easily identifiable info in other posts.

More importantly, how many other people will have been sent a letter for that specific drug, preparation and quantity?

Importation of a medical product, WHAT A JOKE

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