Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

I would love Costa we dont need world class all over we just need class, and giroud and arteta are average at best

Any midfield player we get should not be easily bossed and able to stand up for himself. Would have loved Yaya.

Roll on Tuesday

What a ****ty day fellow gunners, goodnight

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Agree he got it badly wrong today. Awful awful day but surely, surely we are not at the point of already discussing his departure and possible successor?? Really??

I for one believe the man deserves 2-3 years to compete on a similar financial footing to his rivals and i believe that is the 1st year we have reached that level despite the absolute guff and tripe about our 'excellent' financial position as outlined by a poster today.

This is the 1st year we have been able to spend big without jeopardy to the club. I believe a man who sacrificed his career for 6/7 years deserves the respect and chance to compete when we are back to the top.

I know we get annoyed cos our friends down the pub slag about 9 years bla bla bla but we should be bigger than that and know the case. I believe we will win the FA Cup and get top 4 and will strenghten significantly in the summer.

I do think we should stick with Wenger and I agree with a lot of what you say. But he has huge flaws. And he's not learning. Why would he splurge in the summer? That's not really his style. Its so frustrating because we're so close and have been for a couple of seasons now. We've needed a striker since the end of last season. He's let 2 windows go by. Massive massive mistake. He deserves time to get it right but my head is saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

DenMan wrote: »

It's so hard to believe Wenger is 64 now! I mean...64! That is too old being honest! Look around the rest of the Premier League at the ages of the managers in it! We do need a younger manager being honest, Brendan Rodgers is 41. Him and other younger managers are the future of English/World football.

Fergie was 71 when he won the Premier League last year. Age doesnt come into it once he is still up to the pressure.

Is there many of the lads that have won a league in any country? 3 maybe?

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I wouldn't Cazorla?
He had his best season under Wenger.

He's looked really down the last month or so! Plus I saw him shake his head at the substitution of Podolski for Vermalean. I'd trust Podolski more to put away a pass from Cazorla over Giroud. All is not well in the camp!

DenMan wrote: »

He's looked really down the last month or so! Plus I saw him shake his head at the substitution of Vermalean for Podolski today. I'd trust Podolski more to put away a pass from Cazorla over Giroud. All is not well in the camp!

I think you're looking into it too much.
Vermaelen I could understand.. but not Cazorla.

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I think you're looking into it too much.
Vermaelen I could understand.. but not Cazorla.

He knew it was a wrong decision to sub him! Even with 10 men we could have still hurt Chelsea and keeping Podolski on would have helped! Instead we just caved in! Took off a striker and brought on a defender! Played into Chelsea's hands! Losing Koscielny too was an uphill mountain to climb in the end!

Decided to bite the bullet and watch the highlights. Ive one question, what the **** was Gibbs doing for those 2 first goals, absolutely outrageous positioning by a premier league full back, absolutely nowhere to be seen. Wenger is gone at the end of the season mark my words I can see it in his eyes in that interview, he knows hes taking the team as far as he can

Wenger looked very down in that interview, almost like he knows this is close to the end. I admire the man greatly, respect everything he has done on and off the field, I've criticised him plenty of times but it pains me to see him broken after a game, especially on his big day.
I think he will go at the end of the season.

Someone asked a few pages back who would you rather see win the league, I'm going to go with Liverpool, they play the right way, haven't relied on a sugar daddy like some others and I think Stevie G deserves a winners medal. I couldn't say Chelsea because I can't stand mourinho and can't say city because they are just buying success

wonga77 wrote: »

I might also add that my Liverpool friends including my brother would make my life a misery if the pool won the league, I don't mind the plebs on here because there's always the ignore button. It's a no win situation really...

Is there an Ignore button for your family?

Gus99 wrote: »

Correct. They probably have around £100m to spend in the summer on transfers (incl the first year of wages of any players they buy). Which I hope they do spend, on the right players. However some earlier posts were glossing over the fact that up until very recently we had to make an annual operating profit (after player trading) of £20m just to meet the debt repayments, and this was not easy based on the commercial deals we had been locked into. It will be much easier going forward.

i think 08 is the last time arsenal were in profit, excluding player sales.
though even those commercial deals were poor they were around 16-20mil a season i think, prize money gained in those seasons (league + CL) would've covered the loans too, however in the summer they had 70mil to spend - that was accumulated over that period, 70mil!
surely they could've spent some that? a player or two, whatever it would've helped out (injuries, etc.)

they like playing the pauper card but it loses its credibility when you're sitting on cash, everyone - pundits, papers, fans - attacks it based on that, "you've money but don't spend it"
have 70mil, spend 40 on ozil, announce HY accounts and now have 120 - WTF

but that's gone, going forward; well it should be easier but how much faith can you've in it?
I think they will spend or want to spend but i'm not sure if they're willing to go the lengths or actually know how to spend it.

the summer was a failure target wise & they landed on their feet i think. go after a DM, namely bender & gustavo, get neither. then they happen to have flamini asking to come and train at the club.
go after a CF; higuain, between price & thinking suarez is available it goes no further with him (i've no really problem there, prioritising LS) but it also goes nowhere with suarez either.

so after an opening day loss to villa the two positions targeted are still unfilled & this all against the backdrop of 'rooney, we could do more than rooney' 70mil, increasing fan frustration from all angles etc. no further forward.
that flamini lad who dropped in to train, sure we'll sign him. Cirque du Real was in full swing too at this stage late august, offering ozil to man u, then in the last 24/48 hours to arsenal - they took him, they HAD to.

money was spent on ozil & flamini turned out to be shrewd signing, coupled with a good run of form in the league, everything was rosy. landed on their feet, shortcomings forgotten.

the january window, i wouldn't view it as critically as a lot on here. though if draxler has a release clause of 35/37 for the summer, how do you expect to sign him for 30 in jan? if it was a case of really wanting him & not going that extra bit, that'd be different but it's hard to know.
kallstrom as farcical as it was, it was a freak occurrence & spartak covered the cost until he was fit again

amy lawrence & raffa honegstein were talking on football weekly about dick law apparently showing up at different clubs in the summer and basically making take it or leave it offers, never heard from again - that can't be happening again
they also thought that with the ozil deal - pressure they were under, time constraints - that they just had go get the deal done, no time for haggling and went against their better judgement and paid slightly more than they wanted but it they didn't seem to learn from it (referring to January)

it should be easier in the future but they can't repeat what they done last summer again. they need to get who they want, strengthen where they want.

on wenger staying, i'm not sure what to think apart from i wish he had 15 months left instead of 3.

emergingstar wrote: »

I don't think wenger will stay on

I agree I think if he wins the cup this season I could see him stepping down.
He looks like defeated man to me, the loses over bigger clubs this season and the way he just sits on the bench looking lost shows me he's at the end. Could be wrong but some young blood and a manager not afraid to splash the cash on players would be great.