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Food intolerance testing
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06-03-2014 11:24PM#1
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Krusty_Clown wrote: »Then why don't we all just stick to a gluten free diet? Or a low carb diet? Low fat diet? Lactose free diet? Paleo diet? Vegan diet? Because most people will be better served by a well balanced diet.
What do you miss out on? Taste, balance, value, effort (having to cook different meals for different family members), and of course the risk of missing vital nutrients. A well balanced diet should ensure you get a good distribution of nutrients/vitamins, whereas a restrictive diet introduces risk.
Gluten isn't a nutrient. There is nothing in dairy or gluten foods that can't be got elsewhere just by following a well balanced diet. The only concern anyone may have when not having dairy is calcium, though a lot of people generally don't take on much dairy anyway. My family for example, might eat a bit of cheese. No one drinks glasses of milk or eat yoghurt. The only place any of them would get calcium really is through cheese or milk in their tea. No one intentionally takes dairy to get calcium in, do you? does anyone here, or, if you drink milk, eat cheese etc do you have it just because you like it?
Calcium is available in other foods, in adundance in some (like fish).
Chicken fillet, a pile of veg, maybe rice if you want to go crazy - everyone can eat it. Not about fads or about listing out a pile of different diets. If you're reacting to something why would you continue to consume it just to take on the other nutrients?
Taking out something you react to doesn't restrict your diet, if anything it will expand it. I eat things now I'd never have eaten before because I ate what was 'normal' and I didn't understand what was making me feel so crap.
If you are reacting to something you'll know about it, you won't eat it with regularity if you can see the affects it has...not if you're training anyway.
Gluten free diet is actually pretty easy to keep too. All you do is drop processed food. There's no gluten in a steak, or eggs, or other meat products...or vegetables...or fruit...or water. That's not cooking different food for different family members surely? Do they not all eat meat + veg?
Nor do you miss out on taste, value or balance. Maybe convenience, but something tells me the Clown Clan don't eat microwave meals anyway.
There is gluten/wheat in powdered sauces, jars of sauces, stock cubes, cakes, biscuits, chocolates, crisps, bread, beer...gluten is in processed foods, ready meals, pizza, deep fried foods, take aways. Anything in any of them that we need to survive?
If you eat fresh food you're not following a gluten free diet, you're just eating fresh food.
You don't have to put a name to it like gluten free or low carb or paleo...it's just food.
If something clearly doesn't work for you, why would you eat it? I don't understand...my sister ( a qualified chef ) recently asked me why I make my own sauces etc ''sure would you not ever eat tikka masala from a jar, it's easier''
''No it tastes like crap and it would give me cramps''
''Oh it does that to me too, but I don't care I don't want to be a health freak''
She also wonders why everything I cook looks and smells so good. :rolleyes:
WTF??!
I don't restrict anything from my diet except *trying* to restrict junk food.
If you don't react to gluten or dairy, by all means go ahead and keep eating it. You do not need a doctor and blood tests and a medciine cabinet to tell you that you have a reaction to wheat or gluten though...0 -
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RacoonQueen wrote: »If you don't react to gluten or dairy, by all means go ahead and keep eating it. You do not need a doctor and blood tests and a medciine cabinet to tell you that you have a reaction to wheat or gluten though...
I'd agree with this too. If you have an actual allergy, you'll know all about it -- you'll have an instant reaction, which could be mild like hives, wheezing, sneezing etc or severe, like anaphylaxis, but it will happen when you eat the food or come into contact with the allergen. I don't know as much about intolerances, but I know when a family member had a serious digestive illness, doctors used the exclusion test (mentioned by someone above) to see what was causing it rather than any kind of sensitivity tests.
Like RacoonQueen, I'd know myself what doesn't suit me. I don't have any real intolerances, but ice cream or a latte or something will make me feel quite sick, but I'm fine with yoghurt and hard cheeses, and I can eat bread, but too much white bread makes me feel terrible. I'm sure everyone notices things like that about themselves and adjusts their diet accordingly? I'd never drink or have very heavy food or dessert the night before a race, long run or early morning Pilates class either -- it just doesn't suit me. I don't think any of that is necessarily evidence of intolerances, it's just finding what you feel best eating. (Though as an aside I do have a relatively restrictive diet as my husband is vegan so I eat a lot of vegan food. It seems to suit me ok though; the last time I had bloods done I was disgustingly healthy
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So in short I'd say if food isn't making you feel very bad or sending your body into allergic shock, eat it, if it is, see a doctor to get to the bottom of it. Apart from that try to eat normal food that doesn't leave you feeling sick or weak or whatever when you train. (I say this on absolutely no authority whatsoever eat what you like, I don't mind!) 0 -
Krusty_Clown wrote: »That's exactly my point. If you don't have any intolerances or allergies, why would you restrict your diet to a specific subset of foods? It makes absolutely no sense. You're arguing that it won't do you any harm. I'm arguing that it won't provide any additional benefit, but ultimately it's the same point. Processed food is a completely separate discussion.
By the way, pizza always gets bad press. Here's the list of ingredients that goes into a homemade pizza. Please point out the bad ones:
Base: Flour, water, yeast, tablespoon olive oil, pinch salt
Pizza sauce: Crushed tomatoes, oregano, garlic
Toppings: vegetables, perhaps some cured meats.
As long as you don't smother it in cheese, it's one of the healthiest and tastiest things you can eat (as long as you don't have some form of alleged gluten reaction).
Nutritionally cheese is better for you than flour
There's not really anything nutritionally beneficial about flour...you're still making bread. Whether you've an allergy to it or not, its still not the best choice...based on my experience, reading, research etc I consider most 'carbs' like that as junk. Long before I put much effort into nutrition and what not (when I started cooking for myself) I stopped eating 5 potatoes etc with every meal...bread, pasta, rice, potatoes are not really necessary in abundance for a balanced diet.
I went for like 18 years blissfully unaware that I didn't have to have dairy in my diet, completely unaware that it was affecting my health and mood until I took it out....longer with gluten. People have intolernances they don't know about...potentially, a exclusion/restriction programme could benefit anyone here.0 -
I think you're guilty of assuming that anything that doesn't work for you, shouldn't work for anyone. 76.5% of a typical Kenyan marathoner's diet comes from carbohydrates. 5 Potatoes? There's your problem right there! That's not balanced!RacoonQueen wrote: »Nutritionally cheese is better for you than flour
There's not really anything nutritionally beneficial about flour...you're still making bread. Whether you've an allergy to it or not, its still not the best choice...based on my experience, reading, research etc I consider most 'carbs' like that as junk. Long before I put much effort into nutrition and what not (when I started cooking for myself) I stopped eating 5 potatoes etc with every meal...bread, pasta, rice, potatoes are not really necessary in abundance for a balanced diet.
How are we the first generation of humans to suddenly develop all of these intolerances? I know life expectancy is on the increase, but it's hardly down to knocking bread and potatoes out of one's diet.0 -
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