* Motors Chat - Round 5*

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 09-03-2014 09:08PM

If you want an e36 base, I have a 318is e36 that could be yours....:pac:

Big Nasty · 09-03-2014 09:09PM

Quazzie wrote: »

I'm the same, but bang for buck there is very little better.

I would go a Teg but they get snatched up for obvious reasons.

09-03-2014 09:24PM

Question i wanted to ask, based on a thread I read, but didn't want to derail the thread (and not quite worthy of making a thread over, in my opinion):

Can any joe soap pull out the back seats (of a jeep) and pay commercial tax rates?

I know a chap that has a land cruiser. He was a contractor/self employed and bought the commercial version (bought new). Has since changed line of work and is now an employee of a company, but continues to tax the cruiser as a commercial. He reckons it doesn't matter what you work at or such, a commercial is a commercial and that's all there is to it?

Is he right? Wouldn't mind swapping up to a Hilux or something like that if I could get it taxed commercially (i used to be self employed and I still kind of am, but its not my main role/income any more, so not sure how that would affect me).

Alternatively, if I buy a second hand car that's already a commercial, can I just continue to tax it as a commercial regardless?

I've no real need for a commercial vehicle as such (but want and need are different things) but I have little use for my rear seats, so I wouldn't miss them.

Big Nasty · 09-03-2014 09:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Question i wanted to ask, based on a thread I read, but didn't want to derail the thread (and not quite worthy of making a thread over, in my opinion):

Can any joe soap pull out the back seats (of a jeep) and pay commercial tax rates?

I know a chap that has a land cruiser. He was a contractor/self employed and bought the commercial version (bought new). Has since changed line of work and is now an employee of a company, but continues to tax the cruiser as a commercial. He reckons it doesn't matter what you work at or such, a commercial is a commercial and that's all there is to it?

Is he right? Wouldn't mind swapping up to a Hilux or something like that if I could get it taxed commercially (i used to be self employed and I still kind of am, but its not my main role/income any more, so not sure how that would affect me).

Alternatively, if I buy a second hand car that's already a commercial, can I just continue to tax it as a commercial regardless?

I've no real need for a commercial vehicle as such (but want and need are different things) but I have little use for my rear seats, so I wouldn't miss them.

Legally if it's not your business vehicle you shouldn't.

Realistically it's handy enough for a private use individual to tax a commercial vehicle.

Old diesel · 09-03-2014 09:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Question i wanted to ask, based on a thread I read, but didn't want to derail the thread (and not quite worthy of making a thread over, in my opinion):

Can any joe soap pull out the back seats (of a jeep) and pay commercial tax rates?

I know a chap that has a land cruiser. He was a contractor/self employed and bought the commercial version (bought new). Has since changed line of work and is now an employee of a company, but continues to tax the cruiser as a commercial. He reckons it doesn't matter what you work at or such, a commercial is a commercial and that's all there is to it?

Is he right? Wouldn't mind swapping up to a Hilux or something like that if I could get it taxed commercially (i used to be self employed and I still kind of am, but its not my main role/income any more, so not sure how that would affect me).

Alternatively, if I buy a second hand car that's already a commercial, can I just continue to tax it as a commercial regardless?

I've no real need for a commercial vehicle as such (but want and need are different things) but I have little use for my rear seats, so I wouldn't miss them.

my understanding is - you can only avail of the commercial rate of tax if using the vehicle as part of a business.

Its not even quite that simple - a farmer or a builder could use a commercial Landcruiser for their farming or building purposes and get commercial tax (a lot cheaper then paying 3 litre tax as a private vehicle) - but they can't use the same Landcruiser to go to a GAA match on Sunday if they avail off commercial tax.

That's my understanding of the rules from when there was a big uproar about it a couple of years or so back

Wed probably have a Hilux or L200 type crew cab here at home - if the rules were sensible.

Running a passenger Santa Fe on 2 litre private tax (the old CC rates) instead.

YbFocus · 09-03-2014 09:45PM

Old diesel wrote: »

Its not even quite that simple - a farmer or a builder could use a commercial Landcruiser for their farming or building purposes and get commercial tax

One The farmer has a herd number he can avail

09-03-2014 10:23PM

YbFocus wrote: »

One The farmer has a herd number he can avail

I think he's hinting at the law stating a commercial vehicle shouldnt be used for recreational use. It's 'illegal', I think.

What my real question is, though, is if I buy a hilux that's already taxed as a commercial, what do I do? Do I continue to just tax it as a commerial, or because its got a new owner, will it flag up on a system somewhere and I'll have to prove to someone that it's a business vehicle?

(ie; will i be left alone in it, or will i be pestered into showing that im using it solely for commercial purposes?)

Quazzie · 09-03-2014 10:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think he's hinting at the law stating a commercial vehicle shouldnt be used for recreational use. It's 'illegal', I think.

What my real question is, though, is if I buy a hilux that's already taxed as a commercial, what do I do? Do I continue to just tax it as a commerial, or because its got a new owner, will it flag up on a system somewhere and I'll have to prove to someone that it's a business vehicle?

(ie; will i be left alone in it, or will i be pestered into showing that im using it solely for commercial purposes?)

You can drive it but technically it isn't taxed, so if you're stopped by the AGS then you will get in bother

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 09-03-2014 10:33PM

Quazzie wrote: »

You can drive it but technically it isn't taxed, so if you're stopped by the AGS then you will get in bother

Technically it not taxed at the correct rate. Not the same thing.

And you would want to meet a very p!ssed off ags member to be "done" for it.

Dord · 09-03-2014 10:53PM

Yeah, so on the way to the meet earlier OSI was tailing me for a few Km in his golf. I didn't know til after though. He thought I was flashing him with the hazard lights but I wasn't. I checked it out after and apparently brake assist kicked in. In fairness though, some of those backroads were scary as **** with really tight corners. :eek:

Mycroft H · 09-03-2014 11:07PM

YbFocus wrote: »

One The farmer has a herd number he can avail

And what happens when he's not a dairy farmer? Next door neighbour uses his PPS number. Kildare CoCo seem to be happy.

Mycroft H · 09-03-2014 11:08PM

Dord wrote: »

Yeah, so on the way to the meet earlier OSI was tailing me for a few Km in his golf. I didn't know til after though. He thought I was flashing him with the hazard lights but I wasn't. I checked it out after and apparently brake assist kicked in. In fairness though, some of those backroads were scary as **** with really tight corners. :eek:

Which roads would these be?

Dord · 09-03-2014 11:36PM

Mycroft H wrote: »

Which roads would these be?

Not sure exactly. Somewhere inbetween Kinnegad and Portlaoise.

Supergurrier · 09-03-2014 11:38PM

Was a speed van just after you leave the last roundabout in Portlaoise towards Mountmellick on the left, darted up to 120 or so in typical fashion before being deafened by overrun, hope i was close enough to the car infront to not get nabbed

Mycroft H · 09-03-2014 11:39PM

Dord wrote: »

Not sure exactly. Somewhere inbetween Kinnegad and Portlaoise.

Did ya go through Portarlington? There's some "entertaining" roads round that part haha

Dord · 09-03-2014 11:54PM

Mycroft H wrote: »

Did ya go through Portarlington? There's some "entertaining" roads round that part haha

Yup! :eek:

Hal1 · 10-03-2014 12:12AM

Ded_Zebra · 10-03-2014 12:30AM

Just having a read through the owners manual for the Pirmera there. Some interesting things in it that I haven't come across in an owners manual before like instructions for washing the bodywork and the interior and the chrome parts and the underbody etc etc

Also after 366,000 miles there is, wait for it, 1 stamp in the service book, and that was at 1000 miles

Kaiser D · 10-03-2014 12:31AM

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Just having a read through the owners manual for the Pirmera there. Some interesting things in it that I haven't come across in an owners manual before like instructions for washing the bodywork and the interior and the chrome parts and the underbody etc etc

Also after 366,000 miles there is, wait for it, 1 stamp in the service book, and that was at 1000 miles

Thats a proper example of a paddy spec car!

Ded_Zebra · 10-03-2014 12:35AM

Kaiser D wrote: »

Thats a proper example of a paddy spec car!

It's good alright :pac:

I also thought that the back windows weren't working but I opened one of the back doors and noticed that it had a manual winder :P Obviously it acquired a new drivers door card at some point in it's life with 4 buttons!

colm_mcm · 10-03-2014 12:35AM

Kaiser D wrote: »

Thats a proper example of a paddy spec car!

Paddy spec used car doesn't have an owners manual.

Ded_Zebra · 10-03-2014 12:40AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Paddy spec used car doesn't have an owners manual.

This one only had 2 owners before me so it is more lightly to have it

10-03-2014 01:45AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Technically it not taxed at the correct rate. Not the same thing.

And you would want to meet a very p!ssed off ags member to be "done" for it.

I'm not really concerned about the Gardai caring to be honest, it's just the paperwork side of things. Is it as simple as continuing to tax it as a commercial or do shannon send back a form ive to fill in asking why i need a commercial, etc.?

Thats the only aspect that really has me confused on it all.

10-03-2014 01:52AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Paddy spec used car doesn't have an owners manual.

Speaking of which.

I was reading the Rav4's manual a while back.

I've never heard of this before and I've no idea if it's in every car, or what the craic is, but if you push the front seats forward as much as you can (ie; towards the dash), and take out the headrests, you can put the rear of the seat back flat, and it lines up with the back seats (to make one long surface).

The back seats in the Rav also recline, but not far enough to go flat.

What's the purpose of this? Is it so you can get a bit of sleep in it? I tried it out, and it's a class feature, but I admit it's not the most comfortable in the world. If the rear seats reclined fully you'd have no issue getting a decent sleep in it, but Ive never heard of this before. It's genius (assuming that's what it's actually intended for!).

dgt · 10-03-2014 08:35AM

Fog is fairly heavy out, take care this morning

Bpmull · 10-03-2014 08:42AM

dgt wrote: »

Fog is fairly heavy out, take care this morning

Extremely heavy the whole way to cork this morning. The worst I've seen in along time. As dgt said be careful.

CianRyan · 10-03-2014 08:44AM

Clear blue sky's in Dublin.

dgt · 10-03-2014 09:17AM

It is absolutely lovely in Dublin! But twits still driving like theres fog about :rolleyes:

dar83 · 10-03-2014 10:49AM

dgt wrote: »

It is absolutely lovely in Dublin! But twits still driving like theres fog about :rolleyes:

But the radio said there was fog... somewhere... and to be careful...

Ded_Zebra · 10-03-2014 11:35AM

To whoever put this wheel nut on the Primera, I will find you, and I will kill you :mad::mad:

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The fúcking thing still isn't off and I can't fit the 3/4 inch drive socket on it

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