Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

jester77 · 14-02-2014 04:19PM

So, we are winning the biggest bank account league

Surely we can afford Bendtner a new contract now

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:19PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

that thought process of the media lapping up every thing he says as gospel is highly naive, they know exactly the kind of statements he comes out with. (if you watched MOTD last week, you'd have seen B.Rodgers and the commentator laughing when Rodgers was asked what kind of horse l'pool were. JM gets criticised/called up by a lot media people for his hypocrisy, etc.)
they also know the kind of knicker twisting responses (see the last few posts here) that he elicits, it makes their job a lot easier and probably a lot more entertaining as well - they aren't idiots blindly following jose they know exactly what it is

classless? externally maybe but look at the reactions & stories former players give of him - a highly liked, respected manager and man. a winner would be another very apt word to describe him - like it or not

if...

If you watched Sky Sports News 30 minutes ago you wouldn't say that! Also we have said some aspects - not all and I think that is accurate.

Furthermore as I said since we are speaking about Mourinho as a manager. We judge him in that context. It's not a personal attack. In this context of being judged as a manager I believe the comments here are accurate and justified. It's Mourinho who has in the past got personal with people. I agree what you say in terms of people, players, etc but we are discussing him 'externally' as you say and I believe that is fair.

Soups123 · 14-02-2014 04:20PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Let's give Wenger over a billion and see what he can win.

I can guarantee you he would bank it, make about 6.6% interest per annum

monkey9 · 14-02-2014 04:23PM

jester77 wrote: »

Meh, poor attempt at trolling. Look at the facts, we've built a new stadium in the middle of London, took on huge debt which left us with little to no money to play with in the transfer market, yet we still qualified for champions league every year. CL was more important to Arsenal than any trophy during those years because of the cash it was brining in.

We are now over that as of this season. If he wants to call that failure then let him. I would consider what Chelsea and City have done over the last 8 years a bigger failure given the ridiculous amounts of money they have been gifted.

This right here!! Arsenal Wenger has done unreal things at Arsenal, more than Jose Mourinho is capable of. Arsenal will be successful in years to come and on their own terms, Chelsea will never be that.

14-02-2014 04:26PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Better have tried and failed my lad, it'll be a team fighting for the lives that'll take the record eventually.

It should have been West Brom, no great shakes fighting for anything mid season.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:27PM

Good ol Arsenal:

Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 33s Not to state the obvious, but the cash in the bank is probably highest of any club in europe .....
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Pighead · 14-02-2014 04:28PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

If you watched Sky Sports News 30 minutes ago you wouldn't say that! Also we have said some aspects - not all and I think that is accurate.

Furthermore as I said since we are speaking about Mourinho as a manager. We judge him in that context. It's not a personal attack. In this context of being judged as a manager I believe the comments here are accurate and justified. It's Mourinho who has in the past got personal with people. I agree what you say in terms of people, players, etc but we are discussing him 'externally' as you say and I believe that is fair.

Jose is a pantomine villain at worst. You called him a muppet and classless. That is a personal attack no matter what way you try to paint it. If we are speaking solely in the context of him as a manager surely you'd have to call him a genius?

wandatowell · 14-02-2014 04:29PM

Why release details of how much money we have just after a transfer window when we signed one slightly above average, aging, injured player?

And especially considering how poor the team has looked recently.

Also what really annoys me is that the £120m (that took us what 8 years to build up) can be blown out of the water on a whim by City, Chelsea and Utd.

Irish Aris · 14-02-2014 04:32PM

Pighead wrote: »

Jose is a pantomine villain at worst. You called him a muppet and classless. That is a personal attack no matter what way you try to paint it. If we are speaking solely in the context of him as a manager surely you'd have to call him a genius?

being a good manager and being classless are not mutually exclusive. . .:rolleyes:

wandatowell · 14-02-2014 04:34PM

Pighead wrote: »

If we are speaking solely in the context of him as a manager surely you'd have to call him a genius?

To me he's a genius, to you he is a genius but to a genius he's no genius....

He sees where his teams are weakest and buys great players to fill the void. Something Wenger flat refuses to do.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:34PM

Pighead wrote: »

Jose is a pantomine villain at worst. You called him a muppet and classless. That is a personal attack no matter what way you try to paint it. If we are speaking solely in the context of him as a manager surely you'd have to call him a genius?

To be fair I don't meant muppet in a derogatory form if you can accept that?

And yes I believe he is a classless manager given a lot of his actions and words as one.

A great manager, tactically one of the best I would say.

However one has to accept the outstanding resources he has had since Porto. You can't ignore that.

Easy for fickle fans to belittle no trophy in 8 years. Question and honest answer:

Do you think Mourinho could have achieved what Wenger has achieved at Arsenal since we made the stadium move for 8 years?

Secondly would he have stuck at it?

For example until we bought Ozil this year Cazorla/Arshavin was our most expensive player.

Ye guys bought Schurrle on a whim this year for 5 million more than that. Basically a squad player. We built our team around guys of 10-15 million.

Pighead · 14-02-2014 04:41PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be fair I don't meant muppet in a derogatory form if you can accept that?

And yes I believe he is a classless manager given a lot of his actions and words as one.

A great manager, tactically one of the best I would say.

However one has to accept the outstanding resources he has had since Porto. You can't ignore that.

Easy for fickle fans to belittle no trophy in 8 years. Question and honest answer:

Do you think Mourinho could have achieved what Wenger has achieved at Arsenal since we made the stadium move for 8 years?

Secondly would he have stuck at it?

For example until we bought Ozil this year Cazorla/Arshavin was our most expensive player.

Ye guys bought Schurrle on a whim this year for 5 million more than that. Basically a squad player. We built our team around guys of 10-15 million.

Pighead's not a Chelsea fan. Dundalk fan here. Stephen Kenny is also a genius.

'However one has to accept the outstanding resources he has had since Porto. You can't ignore that.'

It is also true to say you can't ignore the Porto years.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:41PM

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead's not a Chelsea fan. Dundalk fan here. Stephen Kenny is also a genius.

'However one has to accept the outstanding resources he has had since Porto. You can't ignore that.'

It is also true to say you can't ignore the Porto years.

I don't - I rate it as his greatest achievement.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:42PM

DC ‏@DeanLDN22 1m £180m cash reserves come summer + £60m extra revenue per year on top of already growing revenues.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:45PM

Tancredi Palmeri‏@tancredipalmeri
Wenger met Van Persie agent on 28 january.Both Wenger and Van Persie wants to join back.Mufc open to that.

5..4..3..2..1..

Thread explodes:D:D

Irish Aris · 14-02-2014 04:47PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Tancredi Palmeri‏@tancredipalmeri
Wenger met Van Persie agent on 28 january.Both Wenger and Van Persie wants to join back.Mufc open to that.

5..4..3..2..1..

Thread explodes:D:D

:eek::eek::eek::eek:, really????

wawaman · 14-02-2014 04:48PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Tancredi Palmeri‏@tancredipalmeri
Wenger met Van Persie agent on 28 january.Both Wenger and Van Persie wants to join back.Mufc open to that.

5..4..3..2..1..

Thread explodes:D:D

If Sky Italia didnt report it then anything that comes out of his mouth is pure waffle. He is basically Sky Sports news in human form

shano_88 · 14-02-2014 04:48PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Tancredi Palmeri‏@tancredipalmeri
Wenger met Van Persie agent on 28 january.Both Wenger and Van Persie wants to join back.Mufc open to that.

5..4..3..2..1..

Thread explodes:D:D

Isnt he a known spoofer?

greendom · 14-02-2014 04:50PM

From my perspective I'm looking for better than an injury prone 30 year old to lead our strike force next season. And that's before considering the traitor aspect.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:50PM

shano_88 wrote: »

Isnt he a known spoofer?

Ya has a bad reputation for some deals I think. Hit and miss like them all.

Not in favour for practical terms - his age.

Might get slated but once he left he left and I felt it difficult to generate the same level of hatred other fans have for him.

Was too lazy to boo him at the game the other night too.

gnfnrhead · 14-02-2014 04:52PM

Wont happen and wouldnt want it to happen either. Had van Persie been willing to wait another year or two he would have been in an amazing position. But he was too impatient and too self absorbed to repay the faith we had shown in him. Would rather Adebayor back before van Persie.

DenMan · 14-02-2014 04:53PM

Surely he'd have to take a wage cut!

greendom · 14-02-2014 04:56PM

DenMan wrote: »

Surely he'd have to take a wage cut!

Actually, if he'd be prepared to be a bench warmer as back up to our star man (whoever he may be ) that may be acceptable

wawaman · 14-02-2014 04:57PM

greendom wrote: »

Actually, if he'd be prepared to be a bench warmer as back up to our star man (whoever he may be ) that may be acceptable

Bendtner !!

Alfred Borden · 14-02-2014 04:58PM

its absolute lies, he has never got anything right. Said in the same podcast messi to psg :pac:

GeorgeBailey · 14-02-2014 04:58PM

I'll take anyone back if they'll score a heap of goals. Problem with Van Persie is that his best days are nearly gone if not alread gone.

ETA: That's not bitterness talking either, a striker in his 30s is generally past his best.

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 04:59PM

DC ‏@DeanLDN22 5m
Tancredi reporting Wenger met RvP's agent on the 28th of Jan in London? Funny that considering Wenger was in Southampton with the squad.
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Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 3m
@DeanLDN22 Its 100% rubbish.

greendom · 14-02-2014 05:04PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

DC ‏@DeanLDN22 5m
Tancredi reporting Wenger met RvP's agent on the 28th of Jan in London? Funny that considering Wenger was in Southampton with the squad.
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Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 3m
@DeanLDN22 Its 100% rubbish.

Ahh yes but I remember they were delayed into Southampton. Perhaps the meeting went on longer than expected in London

Spanish Johnny · 14-02-2014 05:06PM

greendom wrote: »

Ahh yes but I remember they were delayed into Southampton. Perhaps the meeting went on longer than expected in London

Van Persie cost us two more points so!

Won't happen but not impossible. Probably much more realistic than a Cavani type signing.

batistuta9 · 14-02-2014 05:14PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

If you watched Sky Sports News 30 minutes ago you wouldn't say that! Also we have said some aspects - not all and I think that is accurate.

Furthermore as I said since we are speaking about Mourinho as a manager. We judge him in that context. It's not a personal attack. In this context of being judged as a manager I believe the comments here are accurate and justified. It's Mourinho who has in the past got personal with people. I agree what you say in terms of people, players, etc but we are discussing him 'externally' as you say and I believe that is fair.

i didn't see it but SSNews are no different to any other media - perhaps even worse - they're doing that to sell it/keep you watching. take it for what it is and don't get too sucked into it, that's my view of it anyway

if you judge mourinho as a manager there aren't too many sticks to beat him with.
his comments in the past have been personal and snipey but i'm sure you and everyone else knows someone who's like that especially when on the defensive. he was on the defensive today after wengers comments.
- that's not defending him, it's just realising that just because he's a football manager he hasn't stopped being like a 'normal' person, people you know

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