Finally I have abandoned Google Gaelic Maps

Piliger · 11-02-2014 05:34PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

Yeah see now you are being obviously anti-Irish.

I would have thought that that was clear from the beginning. I don't like irish. I don't want to learn or use it. The vast majority of Irish people have only academic interest in it. My family is routed in Galway, Mayo, Monaghan and Dublin and they haven't spoken Irish for 6-8 generations. You speak it. You learn it. You study it. But don't foist it on the rest of us.

Andrew_Doran · 11-02-2014 05:43PM

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Where do i report a bug in that OpenStreetMap one?

Dún Laoghaire still has a fada on it.

I've never heard a Dub call it it anything other than Dunleary face to face. Never Dún Laoghaire, never Kingstown, just Dunleary. I wonder if the next lot to come along after I'm dead and buried will give it some other politically trendy name that we can write on maps and signs. At this rate it'd almost be rude not to.

GaelMise · 11-02-2014 05:52PM

Piliger wrote: »

I would have thought that that was clear from the beginning. I don't like irish. I don't want to learn or use it. The vast majority of Irish people have only academic interest in it. My family is routed in Galway, Mayo, Monaghan and Dublin and they haven't spoken Irish for 6-8 generations. You speak it. You learn it. You study it. But don't foist it on the rest of us.

Your family is from Galway going back 6-8 generations? I suggest you take a closer look at your family tree, it is almost statistically impossible that they were all English only speaking going back that far.

Artful_Badger · 11-02-2014 06:20PM

In this day and age with the technology available you wouldnt think it a big issue to want an option to view an online map solely in the language you actually speak.

How people are so worked up about someone wanting that I have no idea.

Piliger · 11-02-2014 06:51PM

GaelMise wrote: »

Your family is from Galway going back 6-8 generations? I suggest you take a closer look at your family tree, it is almost statistically impossible that they were all English only speaking going back that far.

What piece of uninformed nonsense.

GaelMise · 11-02-2014 07:42PM

Piliger wrote: »

What piece of uninformed nonsense.

Why? Ypou do know that over only a hand full of generations family trees tend to expand exponentially.
Given the numbers of Irish speakers in Galway at the time it is very unlikely that a group of so many people, the vast majority of whom were not directly related to each other at the time (Only becoming related to you further down the tree) would all speak English only.

GTE · 11-02-2014 07:56PM

Just checked Google Maps to see what all this fuss was about. By default it is displaying both Irish and English street names. All are in English where there is no space for both. Never set that setting in my life so I'd hardly blame Google for it.

Fuss fuss fuss fuss fuss, bull****.

username123 · 11-02-2014 08:29PM

bbk wrote: »

All are in English where there is no space for both.

Nope, its random, for me plenty are in Irish only when there is no space for both. Ive never changed the defaults.

Peregrine · 11-02-2014 08:31PM

bbk wrote: »

All are in English where there is no space for both.

I've found roads where it does not show me the English name at all. Irish at level of zoom.

Tokyo · 11-02-2014 08:32PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I've found roads where it does not show me the English name at all. Irish at level of zoom.

Any examples??

GTE · 11-02-2014 08:37PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I've found roads where it does not show me the English name at all. Irish at level of zoom.

Not one for me yet.

username123 · 11-02-2014 08:41PM

mike_ie wrote: »

Any examples??

I'm on a tablet and don't know how to screen grab but if you google map 'carriglea grove, firhouse' and zoom in, the street parallel to it is in Irish only. It's really called Carriglea Rise.

Herb Powell · 11-02-2014 08:47PM

Piliger wrote: »

I would have thought that that was clear from the beginning. I don't like irish. I don't want to learn or use it. The vast majority of Irish people have only academic interest in it. My family is routed in Galway, Mayo, Monaghan and Dublin and they haven't spoken Irish for 6-8 generations. You speak it. You learn it. You study it. But don't foist it on the rest of us.

Ok, but if it's a case of you hating it so much that place names in Irish offend you, it's one of those things you're just going to have to deal with. Being Ireland, most placenames have their roots in the Irish language.

Piliger · 11-02-2014 09:06PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

Ok, but if it's a case of you hating it so much that place names in Irish offend you, it's one of those things you're just going to have to deal with. Being Ireland, most placenames have their roots in the Irish language.

I don't really care a jot about 'roots'. Most of the irish language has roots even further back in other languages. So what. It's a crock except to extremists like your good self.

Herb Powell · 11-02-2014 09:34PM

Piliger wrote: »

I don't really care a jot about 'roots'. Most of the irish language has roots even further back in other languages. So what. It's a crock except to extremists like your good self.

Right, absolutely no doubt you're trolling now.

spank_inferno · 11-02-2014 09:36PM

It is annoying alright.

You have to zoom in very close to see the English name.

Tokyo · 11-02-2014 09:38PM

username123 wrote: »

I'm on a tablet and don't know how to screen grab but if you google map 'carriglea grove, firhouse' and zoom in, the street parallel to it is in Irish only. It's really called Carriglea Rise.

Thanks for that - I see what you mean. Though for some reason on mine at least, Carriglea Rise seems to wrap round the corner into the road that connects to Carriglea Grove....

Piliger · 11-02-2014 09:55PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

Right, absolutely no doubt you're trolling now.

You expose yourself when you knee jerk to that kind of juvenile name calling.

Herb Powell · 11-02-2014 09:58PM

Piliger wrote: »

You expose yourself when you knee jerk to that kind of juvenile name calling.

And again.

You are the one calling anyone who disagrees with your (ironically extreme) viewpoint an extremist.

It doesn't do your argument any favours at all.

ianobrien · 11-02-2014 10:53PM

Piliger wrote: »

Now that I have found a real alternative, http://www.openstreetmap.org/, I have finally abandoned Google Maps totally because I am thoroughly sick to death of the way it's been taken over by the Irish language nationalists.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/ is way way better, I find, with a lot more local information. Tragic that google will not given us access to an English language version of google maps. English, our language, the one 90% of us speak, and the one our parents and their parents and their parents speak.

OP, read this to change the language

http://www.wpgmaps.com/documentation/changing-the-google-maps-language/

Have fun as you can change it to Russian if you want.

username123 · 11-02-2014 11:06PM

mike_ie wrote: »

Thanks for that - I see what you mean. Though for some reason on mine at least, Carriglea Rise seems to wrap round the corner into the road that connects to Carriglea Grove....

Yeah it does on mine too. Not sure what the real situation is there, Or what it should be called.

There are actually lots of examples like that around Firhouse/Tallaght. When I was house hunting a few years back I started noticing it, it makes it very difficult to use the map.

spank_inferno · 11-02-2014 11:27PM

ianobrien wrote: »

OP, read this to change the language

http://www.wpgmaps.com/documentation/changing-the-google-maps-language/

Have fun as you can change it to Russian if you want.

That's handy.

Shame it doesn't work for the handset ap.

Piliger · 11-02-2014 11:31PM

ianobrien wrote: »

OP, read this to change the language

http://www.wpgmaps.com/documentation/changing-the-google-maps-language/

Have fun as you can change it to Russian if you want.

Doesn't work. Anyway I believe I have changed over to the New Google Maps referred to earlier in the thread and it seems a lot better.

ianobrien · 11-02-2014 11:47PM

Piliger wrote: »

Doesn't work. Anyway I believe I have changed over to the New Google Maps referred to earlier in the thread and it seems a lot better.

Worked for me when looking at Moscow when planning a recent holiday and I was trying to match street names from a guide book to the Cyrillic alphabet and for attractions in Budapest.

ArtyC · 12-02-2014 12:11AM

Piliger wrote: »

I would have thought that that was clear from the beginning. I don't like irish. I don't want to learn or use it. The vast majority of Irish people have only academic interest in it. My family is routed in Galway, Mayo, Monaghan and Dublin and they haven't spoken Irish for 6-8 generations. You speak it. You learn it. You study it. But don't foist it on the rest of us.

Irish Being on a map and some people happy enough with that is not "foisting it on you".
Keep rambling your anti Irish language crap... I'll be ignoring you. How pathetic, I'm happy for people to have different interests and opinions to mine. I don't feel the need to ramble on about how wrong they are because I have different views or interests

Piliger · 12-02-2014 12:32AM

ArtyC wrote: »

Irish Being on a map and some people happy enough with that is not "foisting it on you".
Keep rambling your anti Irish language crap... I'll be ignoring you. How pathetic, I'm happy for people to have different interests and opinions to mine. I don't feel the need to ramble on about how wrong they are because I have different views or interests

And yet you are here ... rambling on ... and on ...

ozmo · 19-02-2014 12:55PM

Piliger wrote: »

Doesn't work. Anyway I believe I have changed over to the New Google Maps referred to earlier in the thread and it seems a lot better.

Yup - a popup appeared today offering to try the new Google maps - it redirected me then to maps.google.co.uk

- A quick look though and I can see only one Road named in Irish in the new Map in Dublin City Center (Bòthar Northumberland)

Uriel. · 19-02-2014 01:04PM

LordSutch wrote: »

English is our main language, not Irish, not by a long shot . . .

Nearly all Irish people speak English, & some choose to speak Irish.

You should check out Article 8 of our dear constitution. It'll blow your mind.

Sulla Felix · 19-02-2014 01:37PM

It's a PICNIC issue, not some high minded gaelgoir coup in the google offices.

My street names are all in English. Just checked.

Piliger · 19-02-2014 01:40PM

Uriel. wrote: »

You should check out Article 8 of our dear constitution. It'll blow your mind.

You mean the constitution that used to ban divorce and still bans same sex marriage until the people get to decide ?

Finally I have abandoned Google Gaelic Maps

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