Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

lazygal · 06-02-2014 08:12PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

Hi David!

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:14PM

lazygal wrote: »

Hi David!

Not my name but I hate seeing people being called names when they are not present to defend themselves.

I know some would think calling people '****wits', is the height of intelligent debate. Not accusing you.

floggg · 06-02-2014 08:18PM

No

floggg wrote: »

I forgot you had such a nonsensical view. The version of marriage with all the legal benefits, protections and obligations isn't real, but the religious version which is utterly meaningless and can be walked away from or wished away at will is.

Well then, same question but imagine your are religious married.

How will it in impact your "real" religious marriage i get "not real" civil married.

And how do you address the resulting inequality of from voting no to marriage equality, while allowing it to remain an option for straight people?

Is your opposition to marriage more important than the right of lgbt irish citizens to be treated with equal dignity and respect by the irish state, and to receive the same legal benefits and protections, as straight people.

Oh good. Robertkk is back.

Care to answer now?

lazygal · 06-02-2014 08:20PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

Not my name but I hate seeing people being called names when they are not present to defend themselves.

I know some would think calling people '****wits', is the height of intelligent debate. Not accusing you.

Oh David, now you're just being a silly Billy. Don't sue me!

Friend Computer · 06-02-2014 08:21PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

Would you like us to erect statues in honour of the people who want to deny us equal rights? Maybe we should be daily thanking them for considering us second-class citizens. Or hey, things aren't as bad here as in Russia so maybe we should be glad they're only fighting against our rights.

Yes, Robert, all the hate is from the people on the thread, none from Iona and Co..

Corkfeen · 06-02-2014 08:25PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.(Since this is coming from you) Stating that a homophobic group is homophobic. Merely a statement of fact. You just seem to have struggled throughout to understand this. I'd actually suspect that the amount of people that view them as homophobic since they censored a person who stated that they were. So Iona shutting down the debate hit them negatively and marriage equality rather positively.

Turtwig · 06-02-2014 08:28PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

Still on that High Horse I see. Any chance of, oh I don't know, something substantial in your posts. Maybe some reasoning for why gays should be treated differently or examples of this hatred?

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:33PM

I will not call anyone here a ****wit, as I don't think it is acceptable if one wants to be taken seriously.

I notice the double standards, people wants to be treated equally in a debate and rightly so yet I get replies 'since this is coming from you', which implies what I post is somehow inferior and the derision is an attempt to shut down debate.

PopePalpatine · 06-02-2014 08:34PM

No

It's inferior because it's based on inferior reasoning.

iwantmydinner · 06-02-2014 08:35PM

Nope. Not watching Quinn, not reading RobertKK's posts. Not today.

*heads to pub*

Kiwi in IE · 06-02-2014 08:42PM

No

I made the f€&@wit comment that Mr KK(K) has issue with!

David Quinn, Breda O'Brein, John Waters, all the rest of Iona and those that think like them are welcome to the above title.

Those who argue against the equal human and civil rights of other people with no logical or rational basis for their argument are welcome to, and deserve to be called f&%#wits.

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:44PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

It's inferior because it's based on inferior reasoning.

So calling people names is ok?

You may see that as inferior, but no one should be getting called names whether that is a homosexual person, David Quinn or whoever.
That is what is inferior - name calling.

I have a thing about this as I was bullied as a child and I can't stand seeing people being called names, however justified one thinks it is, it is not good.

20Cent · 06-02-2014 08:46PM

No

Paddy Manning is on tonight as well. Seen him twice already this week on tv complaining about not being allowed express his views. He's some unknown blogger getting more airtime than most of the cast of fair city.

Bizarre.

floggg · 06-02-2014 08:46PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

I will not call anyone here a ****wit, as I don't think it is acceptable if one wants to be taken seriously.

I notice the double standards, people wants to be treated equally in a debate and rightly so yet I get replies 'since this is coming from you', which implies what I post is somehow inferior and the derision is an attempt to shut down debate.

We welcome debate. An number of points have been made to you which you have ignored though, so its a bit rich to be emplaning about being unable to debate the issues.

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:46PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I made the f€&@wit comment that Mr KK(K) has issue with!

David Quinn, Breda O'Brein, John Waters, all the rest of Iona and those that think like them are welcome to the above title.

Those who argue against the equal human and civil rights of other people with no logical or rational basis for their argument are welcome to, and deserve to be called f&%#wits.

The 3 K's is a reporting issue for me, given it has happened before and implies I am racist.

Kiwi in IE · 06-02-2014 08:47PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

I will not call anyone here a ****wit, as I don't think it is acceptable if one wants to be taken seriously.

I notice the double standards, people wants to be treated equally in a debate and rightly so yet I get replies 'since this is coming from you', which implies what I post is somehow inferior and the derision is an attempt to shut down debate.

I didn't call anyone 'here' a f&€*wit. I called David Quinn one.

'Equal standards' are not possible in this 'debate'. Some people get to vote against other people's basic human rights.

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:49PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I didn't call anyone 'here' a f&€*wit. I called David Quinn one.

'Equal standards' are not possible in this 'debate'. Some people get to vote against other people's basic human rights.

You are making out I am racist "Mr KK(K)".

Name calling one person just leads to one calling other people names and it is not positive.

Kiwi in IE · 06-02-2014 08:50PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

The 3 K's is a reporting issue for me, given it has happened before and implies I am racist.

Well report it then. What's the point in posting that you have/are going to?

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:51PM

floggg wrote: »

We welcome debate. An number of points have been made to you which you have ignored though, so its a bit rich to be emplaning about being unable to debate the issues.

I could reply to your post the way some reply to my long posts, like with a lol and I didn't see you complaining then about points being ignored.

Bannasidhe · 06-02-2014 08:52PM

No

efb wrote: »

I think if I see smug David on my TV I'll smash it, so I'll watch Netflix on it instead Bridegroom maybe???

Paddy Manning is on too apparently...

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:53PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Well report it then. What's the point in posting that you have/are going to?

Because it is not the first time it happened and they were reported too.

It is not acceptable behaviour and not original.

Bannasidhe · 06-02-2014 08:54PM

No

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

That was my point really efb. I am aware I have no business telling groups that I don't belong to what they should or should not refer to themselves as I quite like being called a 'Kiwi'. I just think that the prefix 'The' prior to gays, blacks, women, foreigners etc, immediately shows prejudice.

I have always found The Kiwis to be quite mouthy.

:pac:

RobertKK · 06-02-2014 08:55PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Paddy Manning is on too apparently...

I'll record it

Bannasidhe · 06-02-2014 08:57PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

I'll record it

Excellent.

Then we can discuss a debate on TV that you have actually seen which will make a refreshing change.

You will watch it before commenting won't you?

efb · 06-02-2014 08:59PM

No

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Paddy Manning is on too apparently...

I fear for my tv- Live at the Apollo it is

Nodin · 06-02-2014 09:00PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

Not my name but I hate seeing people being called names when they are not present to defend themselves.

I know some would think calling people '****wits', is the height of intelligent debate. Not accusing you.

...but you don't have any problem with a well financed program of vilification that aims to drag us back 50 years. Nice.

Annasopra · 06-02-2014 09:07PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

It's ok. I know David Quinn and yourself don't represent all straight people. I won't judge all heterosexual cisgender people on what you or David Quinn say.

floggg · 06-02-2014 09:07PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

I could reply to your post the way some reply to my long posts, like with a lol and I didn't see you complaining then about points being ignored.

I take it therefore you don't actually have a constructive argument.

I took the time to ask you to explain your point and to try and understand it.

You have however made no attempt to get it across.

I can only assume there is nothing to back it up.

Annasopra · 06-02-2014 09:10PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

I will not call anyone here a ****wit, as I don't think it is acceptable if one wants to be taken seriously.

I notice the double standards, people wants to be treated equally in a debate and rightly so yet I get replies 'since this is coming from you', which implies what I post is somehow inferior and the derision is an attempt to shut down debate.

In all fairness you have used the argument that marriage equality will be abused to facilitate child abuse.

iguana · 06-02-2014 09:11PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

The amount of hate in this thread does the LGBTIQ people no favours.

I opened this thread and the Garth Brooks one in different tabs at the same time and thought I was looking at the GB one when I read this. Thought I'd missed some big story about Garth Brooks being hated by the LGBT community. I even googled it. I need more sleep.

Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

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