Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

Sarky · 04-02-2014 11:13PM

No

darced wrote: »

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A little bit, yes. He's right, we all have prejudices of one kind or another, and plenty more of them than we realise. It's important to try and step back and spot those prejudices, and work on reducing or eliminating them.

I'm wondering now if that laugh was an example of such prejudice. You'd have to ask Panti who it was originally intended.

Stark · 04-02-2014 11:15PM

No

darced wrote: »

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I thought that was the most interesting part of the speech in a lot of ways. As someone who makes a living out of the gay lifestyle, I always thought Rory O'Neill would be 100% secure in his sexuality. But watching the speech and the insecurities on display gave me the impression that "Panti" was the public mask he hid behind, that it was too scary to stand out there as his private persona Rory and let the world judge. Put a new spin on the character for me.

diddlybit · 04-02-2014 11:16PM

No

B0jangles wrote: »

Every time I see Rory in drag I get a tiny bit angry.

I have that resentment

diddlybit · 04-02-2014 11:19PM

No

Stark wrote: »

I thought that was the most interesting part of the speech in a lot of ways. As someone who makes a living out of the gay lifestyle, I always thought Rory O'Neill would be 100% secure in his sexuality. But watching the speech and the insecurities on display gave me the impression that "Panti" was the mask he hid behind, that it was too scary to stand out there as "Rory" and let the world judge. Put a new spin on the character for me.

What a wonderful observation. Nice to know that I'm not the only one with sporadic anxiety about my sexuality

Links234 · 04-02-2014 11:20PM

No

darced wrote: »

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my apologies if I've taken you up wrong, but when you say (paraphrasing) "maybe he thinks he can crossdress without getting abused" it read to me like you were suggesting that abuse was the proper response and he's a fool to expect otherwise?

AerynSun · 04-02-2014 11:21PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

...they don't have a problem with homosexuals, but simply don't support a redefinition of marriage.

Cynthia Nixon on gay marriage

:cool:

darced · 04-02-2014 11:28PM

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Links234 · 04-02-2014 11:30PM

No

darced wrote: »

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:rolleyes:

seenitall · 04-02-2014 11:32PM

No

darced wrote: »

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No, it could have been "clearer" alright.:rolleyes: Methinks that it was a bit of a Freudian slip, at the very least. Or the slip of the mask, rather.

(Quote working again, yay!)

El Guapo! · 04-02-2014 11:32PM

Who is this blogger guy on Vincent Brown? Talking out of his arse tbh.

Stark · 04-02-2014 11:43PM

No

Paddy Manning. https://twitter.com/PaddyJManning

Bit of a nutcase tbh.

darced · 04-02-2014 11:44PM

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diddlybit · 04-02-2014 11:47PM

No

I have no idea how this debate keeps coming the online abuse.

-Tell me why you think opponenents of same sex marriage are not homophobic.

-I do not need to tell you. I got death threats.

End of argument.

Nodin · 04-02-2014 11:48PM

No

diddlybit wrote: »

I have no idea how this debate keeps coming the online abuse.

-Tell me why you think opponenents of same sex marriage are not homophobic.

-I do not need to tell you. I got death threats.

End of argument.

...not even real death threats, ffs.

seenitall · 04-02-2014 11:49PM

No

No I dont think it could have been if you bothered to read the discussion,seems with the rest of your post you are looking for a row so I'll leave you to it

Great stuff, get called out and play the poor-me picked-on victim card straightaway.

Seems familiar anyways.

diddlybit · 04-02-2014 11:50PM

No

Nodin wrote: »

...not even real death threats, ffs.

Twitter is fairly nuts at the moment, but it's definately coming from both sides. Only one side, however, are choosing to use it as leverage,

EuskalHerria · 04-02-2014 11:51PM

No

Nodin wrote: »

...not even real death threats, ffs.

To be fair, often through anonymity, people often get heated and make comments they may not mean online. However you can never discount some lunatic.

However, what did the Gardai say when he reported this? I'd be curious.

Nodin · 04-02-2014 11:53PM

No

EuskalHerria wrote: »

To be fair, often through anonymity, people often get heated and make comments they may not mean online. However you can never discount some lunatic.

However, what did the Gardai say when he reported this? I'd be curious.

Well its just that they aren't coming from paramilitary grouping. Theres no statement saying 'Such activity goes against (blah blah) and will meet with the ultimate sanction'. It's whinging as cover.

efb · 04-02-2014 11:57PM

No

Sure unless they are beating the shoite out of ya, its not homophobia, ok

Stark · 04-02-2014 11:57PM

No

efb wrote: »

Sure unless they are beating the shoite out of ya, its not homophobia, ok

And if they are, it's still not homophobia, if you're to follow Paddy Manning's logic.

darced · 04-02-2014 11:57PM

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Lyaiera · 04-02-2014 11:58PM

No

Stark wrote: »

And if they are, it's still not homophobia, if you're to follow Paddy Manning's logic.

Sure even God isn't a homophobe despite sending Paddy Manning to hell when he dies.

efb · 05-02-2014 12:02AM

No

Paddy manning and logic in the same sentence... Does not compute

seenitall · 05-02-2014 12:03AM

No

Called out about what?

Yawn. Don't tell me you suffer from short-term memory loss as well as the propensity for subtle digs... too bad, dude.

diddlybit · 05-02-2014 12:04AM

No

I wonder if anyone would take him seriously, if a gay man against marriage equality (given a platform of course) could influence the undecided voter.

efb · 05-02-2014 12:04AM

No

Was paddy neknominated to wear those awful clothes???

J_E · 05-02-2014 12:07AM

No

Paddy made a holy show of himself. What sort of person claims to be perfectly non-discriminatory? A person who hasn't quite got a grip on reality.

@strictlyobiter: Depressing how some gay ppl think they must be a plus royaliste que le roi social conservative to gain acceptance by those they esteem #vinb

Sums up this man fairly accurately.

diddlybit wrote: »

I wonder if anyone would take him seriously, if a gay man against marriage equality (given a platform of course) could influence the undecided voter.

If he was at all coherent and in control of himself, perhaps. He contradicted himself too many times to count and was all over the shop. Full of wasteful anger.

P_1 · 05-02-2014 12:07AM

No

He does seem to have a strange world view and I'm not sure what giving him a platform really adds to the debate bar a lot of loud noises.

PopePalpatine · 05-02-2014 12:08AM

No

efb wrote: »

Was paddy neknominated to wear those awful clothes???

I'd need to do a neknomination to tolerate him.

J_E · 05-02-2014 12:10AM

No

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'd need to do a neknomination to tolerate him.

Maybe that can be a new, safe neknomination. A paddynomination. Try to figure out what the hell he is about as a person.

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