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Are YOU going to pay your water bills?

  • 28-01-2014 11:10PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭


    I have no problem paying for my water. I think it's a good idea.

    However, I'm going to have serious difficulty paying that first bill and I will do everything I can to withold payment, for as long as I can.

    When I think about paying my water bill, I don't believe I will be paying for my water. I believe I will be paying for corruption, greed and ineptitude.

    For the purposes of discussion, I'm less concerned with the individual controversy that have surrounded this issue.

    Rather, I would like to get a sense of how people will react to the inevitable cases of people protesting that will happen with this.

    For whatever reason, the general level of protest (at the moment) doesn't seem to be anywhere near the rabid reaction to the property tax. Is that going to be the case for long?

    Are you going to pay?

    Are you going to pay your water bill? 105 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    65% 69 votes
    Don't know (water jaguar)
    34% 36 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    I would if I could, but I can't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I'd like to see more info on what is fixed and what is variable in terms of the charges.

    I use fk all water to be honest so if it's pay per use i will be grand. But what's the bets they will have a 200 euro fixed annual charge and 0.000001 euro per hectolitre thereafter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    How much is the water going to cost? I pay ~£300 a year for water and sewerage in the UK (one bed flat).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    How much is the water going to cost? I pay ~£300 a year for water and sewerage in the UK (one bed flat).

    What do you do with the sewerage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    I'll pay because I would like to have sufficient water pressure to have a shower and use appliances.

    I have no problem paying for water in principle, but the fact that this is another measure to fill the hole left by the bailout pisses me off.

    I find it best not to think about Irish Water, maybe their 2000 surplus staff can do that on my behalf.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    No choice really. Once the bill comes in the door I have to pay it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I've no problem paying for my water, it's good quality stuff, turn on the tap and voila, there it is. (Also have a spring well and a rainwater harvesting system for backup;)). I know plenty of people with crap water though, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay for the sh1te that comes out of their taps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    No choice really. Once the bill comes in the door I have to pay it.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    Sky King wrote: »
    What do you do with the sewerage?

    I know you're being facetious but the way they break it down here, you pay more for waste water to be taken away than clean water to be delivered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    They break it down using bacteria.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Saucy McKetchup


    Nope I'd rather buy bottled water to drink and harvest rainwater to bathe in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭FueledbyCoffee


    Can't and won't


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    You could of course buy a bucket and go down to the pump, of which a lot of towns have.

    Most countries pay for water. I think it's a good thing, at least people will be more careful, rather than leaving taps running all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Mr. G wrote: »
    You could of course buy a bucket and go down to the pump, of which a lot of towns have.

    Most countries pay for water. I think it's a good thing, at least people will be more careful, rather than leaving taps running all the time.

    I agree with this. However, I have a real problem with how Irish water is being set up.

    The whole thing just stinks.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    keith16 wrote: »
    I agree with this. However, I have a real problem with how Irish water is being set up.

    The whole thing just stinks.

    Yep, easier said than done :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Nope I'd rather buy bottled water to drink and harvest rainwater to bathe in

    Nice. Your move, Enda ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭maringo


    I have no problem paying for water. But I do have a problem paying for fluoridated water. I use a distiller for most of my drinking water to remove the fluoride as I won't drink it straight from the tap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    maringo wrote: »
    I have no problem paying for water. But I do have a problem paying for fluoridated water. I use a distiller for most of my drinking water to remove the fluoride as I won't drink it straight from the tap.

    Moonshine?

    I ain't paying for water. Borehole and pump, ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Saucy McKetchup


    Nice. Your move, Enda ;)

    Foiled again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭maringo


    Moonshine, afraid not. Just great tasting water.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭TheHappyChappy


    Still not got anything in letterbox re: property tax, so don't expect to get anything about this, & quite happy not to pay for 'jobs for the boys'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    keith16 wrote: »
    Why?

    As the home owner I've no choice. Bills have to be paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    I'll pay but will be expecting decent quality water for it. Will be questioning them what is wrong if the water looks even a bit off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Haven't gotten round to paying the Household Charge yet...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Is it true people who have private water wells or people who get their water off the side of a mountain will have to pay water charges?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    WikiHow wrote: »
    Is it true people who have private water wells or people who get their water off the side of a mountain will have to pay water charges?

    I think they're stung with Septic tank charges.

    No-one escapes, one way or another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Faucet's Circus at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    I wouldn't mind if it meant the water wasn't gonna be full of lime, bacteria and other rubbish like it is now. This all seems like a way to get more money for debts I had to part in racking up than an attempt to set up a decent water supply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    I wish they just put a flat, nominal fee onto every electricity bill for the next 5 years at first and put all monies raised from this fee purely into upgrading the pipe network and improving water quality, legislate for all new builds to have meters installed, and then in a few years (when we're doing a bit better) maybe start installing meters into current homes.

    No, sure why not spend a few billion right now setting up a company that can only make a profit by punishing people for under usage while making zero tangible improvements to the water network for the 'customer'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    keith16 wrote: »
    I agree with this. However, I have a real problem with how Irish water is being set up.

    The whole thing just stinks.
    Agreed to an extent, though I can see the point on the staffing issue. The agreement was that IW would take staff from the local authorities - those staff involved in water. Not a bad idea; you're getting experienced staff, familiar with the local facilities, and on the balance of it, your overall staff costs don't change. We're paying the same people for the same job.

    If they had IW set up like a normal company and we lay off all of the water staff in LAs, the unions would wet themselves (pun intended).

    So on principle, I've no issue with the staff thing. My main concern is that instead of shedding the fat through redundancies, etc, IW will continue to operate with 2.5 times more staff than it needs, which will account for probably 50% of my entire water bill.


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