Indicating after an overtake

corktina · 24-01-2014 07:55PM #1

do you indicate left having passed someone? always seems a bit superfluous to me

Paddy@CIRL · 24-01-2014 07:55PM

Always.

Renegade Mechanic · 24-01-2014 07:57PM

Yeah. Actually, I just did! Dunno why I do though, weird...

Mycroft H · 24-01-2014 07:57PM

I usually do. In both single lane and dual lane carriageways.

One of the instructors who I did my lorry test used to give out about it. I used to do it to annoy him as he was an arse.

biko · 24-01-2014 07:58PM

I do just because of habit. Before I pull back to left lane again I make sure I am well ahead of the car I overtook so it's probably not necessary.

Boskowski · 24-01-2014 08:00PM

I learned to always indicate when I leave my lane. Do I do this every time? No. But I know I should.

challengemaster · 24-01-2014 08:01PM

Nope. Always make sure I'm a good bit past the car before moving back over, but in all honesty - where the fluich do they think I'm going to go? Continue driving on the wrong side of the road?

On DC/Motorways I would tend to.

Either way it's important to remember, legally indicators mean nothing - don't rely on them (or other peoples use of them), use common sense.

24-01-2014 08:01PM

biko wrote: »

I do just because of habit.

Yeh same. Total force of habit.

Chris_Heilong · 24-01-2014 08:10PM

No, its obvious to all cars around I am re-merging.

ironclaw · 24-01-2014 08:12PM

Generally do it. Of course its fairly obvious what someone is going to do after an overtake, but on a motorway and especially the M50, if your in lane 3 and going back to 2, you often get a chancer in lane 1 going for a jump / undertake to lane 2. If nothing else, it might avoid a sideswipe and it has saved me once or twice (Obviously having checked before moving back in, but it still happens in rush hour with the fast and furious lane jumpers)

slimjimmc · 24-01-2014 08:22PM

You're supposed to indicate before returning to your lane even on a single lane road.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf Pg51

When you are well past, check the mirror, signal and gradually move in
again making sure not to cut across the vehicle you have passed.

challengemaster · 24-01-2014 08:26PM

Just to point out (once again) that the ROTR is not the same as the Road traffic act. ROTR is a sort of interpretation to plain english, combined with a lot of suggestions that actually have no basis in law.

If you want the letter of the law, don't ever look in the ROTR.

slimjimmc · 24-01-2014 08:28PM

No one is claiming it's a statement of law (not that the thread is about the legal aspect of indicating either) but it is a guide to recommended safe driving practice.

Nino Brown · 24-01-2014 08:29PM

Never, makes no sense

GreeBo · 24-01-2014 08:31PM

Only on multi-lane roads.
I think on a single lane road its obvious that Im not going to sit out in oncoming traffic after passing someone/thing.

cormie · 24-01-2014 08:33PM

I was told not to when I was doing my pre-test on a single lane road based on the fact that it should be obvious you're going to return to the lane considering the lane you're driving in when doing the overtaking manoeuvre isn't actually a lane that you should be driving in. I do keep my indicator on the whole time while overtaking and only flick it off once I'm back in the lane. On a dual+, I indicate, change lane, indicator off, overtake, indicate back, indicator off.

The reason the instructor at the time told me was so not to confuse the drivers behind as they may think I'm then about to turn left ahead for example. I've just followed that since and never felt the need to change it.

challengemaster · 24-01-2014 08:34PM

slimjimmc wrote: »

No one is claiming it's a statement of law (not that the thread is about the legal aspect of indicating either) but it is a guide to recommended safe driving practice.

It may well be, but saying you're supposed to (obliged) do something and quoting the ROTR holds as much weight as quoting pat the baker

Inbox · 24-01-2014 08:36PM

Only if I'm after overtaking 3 cars and I need to squeeze back in if I've run out of power.

mathepac · 24-01-2014 08:37PM

challengemaster wrote: »

Just to point out (once again) that the ROTR is not the same as the Road traffic act. ROTR is a sort of interpretation to plain english, combined with a lot of suggestions that actually have no basis in law.

If you want the letter of the law, don't ever look in the ROTR.

Only a complete numbskull would ignore common-sense suggestions from the ROTR aimed at helping to improve road safety.

Learner drivers aren't tested on their detailed knowledge of the Road Traffic Acts, but on knowledge of the ROTR. It saves having to have a law degree before taking a driving test; a common sense approach I would have thought, but then common sense is pretty uncommon IME.

Bigcheeze · 24-01-2014 08:37PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

No, its obvious to all cars around I am re-merging.

Not on a motorway.

mathepac · 24-01-2014 08:42PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

No, its obvious to all cars around I am re-merging.

Might that be because you re-merge before you indicate? The idea of indicators is to indicate your intentions, not a history of your actions.

challengemaster · 24-01-2014 08:44PM

mathepac wrote: »

Might that be because you re-merge before you indicate? The idea of indicators is to indicate your intentions, not a history of your actions.

Probably because it's common sense that people don't continue driving on the wrong side of the road indefinitely. But as you said,

mathepac wrote: »

but then common sense is pretty uncommon IME.

Inbox · 24-01-2014 08:45PM

Actually its always the **** overtakers I see doing this.

Paddy@CIRL · 24-01-2014 08:46PM

A wiser man than me once told me that it doesn't matter how fast you're going, if you always use your indicators it's a sign that you're in complete control of the vehicle and won't have any tell tales or knocks on your door afterwards

road_high · 24-01-2014 08:46PM

Always on a motorway or dual carriageway. Never do it on a single carriageway though, perhaps I should.

bigroad · 24-01-2014 08:53PM

Its good practice to do it and its safer.Non use of indicators shows up a lazy driver.

GTE · 24-01-2014 08:54PM

challengemaster wrote: »

It may well be, but saying you're supposed to (obliged) do something and quoting the ROTR holds as much weight as quoting pat the baker

"Supposed" has never meant obliged.

"Supposed" works almost perfectly in this situation come to think of it if one considers the Rules of the Road documentation to be just an interpretation of the law rather than a simpler to understand version of it.

Voodoomelon · 24-01-2014 08:59PM

I always do, so the slow coach i'm overtaking doesn't think i'm a complete asshole after kickdowning past him.

bigroad · 24-01-2014 09:09PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I always do, so the slow coach i'm overtaking doesn't think i'm a complete asshole after kickdowning past him.

I have to agree.It amazes the amount of sloweys that flash when you overtake them ,as if you should stay behind them till they see fit to raise their speed from zero.

dgt · 24-01-2014 09:11PM

One flash normally does it for me. If it can be seen through the black smoke is another thing

harbourmill · 24-01-2014 09:11PM

from my point of view its pointless to indicate left after passing a car because the driver knows you passed him and assumes you are going to come back in to the left and not continue on driving on the incorrect side of the road. While doing a advanced driving course in the early 1980s an instructor informed me of the above and that indicating when no other vehicles were affected by my manoeuvre, is a sign that you are not aware of your traffic in front or behind you and are indicating out of habit. ie indicating to turn right if nothing is behind you or coming towards you. still that said i am teaching my daughter to drive and guess what !! i have her indicating in all situations as common sense would dictate that indicating may be habit forming but it is a good habit, and letting other road users know your intentions cannot be bad

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