Galvin Green waterproof trousers

SuprSi · 24-01-2014 02:56PM

TrapperChamonix wrote: »

Gor Tex created a leap in technology in 1978 with the introduction of WP/BR laminates. They had a patent on this for many years but this ran out some time ago (early 2000's I think). Since then there have been many other systems using the same system eVent (North Face), Sympatex (Nike), MemBrain Strata (Marmot), Imperalite (Mizuno) etc. Nothing wrong with Gor Tex but as all the the other generics operate the same level of technical performance there is no reason to pay a premium for it. Obviously the design and manufacturing quality have as much as an impact, but if its value for money v's performance, not sure GG are top of the list.

That's very interesting. I was under the impression that Gore Tex was still the best waterproof material out there. I have some ProQuip stuff that I bought a few years ago (the Ryder Cup gear from Wales) and it's certainly not waterproof, even though it claims to be.

Maybe it's the power of marketing but I had it in my mind that the next item of clothing I buy is going to be GG stuff, though if there is material out there that's as good I'd definitely reconsider.

jobless · 24-01-2014 03:10PM

i got a jacket and trousers second hand on ebay for about 150 euro, they were a year old.... have to say they are great and the fact that i can wash them and not worry about them letting in water next time i wear them is great..

I couldn't stretch to paying the shop price for them though but i guess if you do buy them then they might be cheaper in the long run than buying something that lets in water after a couple of years and having to replace them...

Anita B Jaynow · 24-01-2014 03:15PM

TrapperChamonix wrote: »

Gor Tex created a leap in technology in 1978 with the introduction of WP/BR laminates. They had a patent on this for many years but this ran out some time ago (early 2000's I think). Since then there have been many other systems using the same system eVent (North Face), Sympatex (Nike), MemBrain Strata (Marmot), Imperalite (Mizuno) etc. Nothing wrong with Gor Tex but as all the the other generics operate the same level of technical performance there is no reason to pay a premium for it. Obviously the design and manufacturing quality have as much as an impact, but if its value for money v's performance, not sure GG are top of the list.

Great post.

pinkdoubleeagle · 24-01-2014 03:26PM

It's the best waterproofs out there by a country mile. If you can afford it buy it. Have had mine for over 8 years and still in great condition.

indabunka · 24-01-2014 03:35PM

I have purchased/won/received gifts of many top of the range waterproof suits (Sunderland, Proquip, Mizuno included) in my time and all have let in water at some stage or other. (I've even had some replaced under guarantee.)

However about 6 years ago I splashed out and purchased a pair of Galvin green trousers. Best decision I have ever made as to date they have been superb. At times I must admit I felt they were a little heavy for the summer so I purchased a set of Abacus Wet gear in 2011 which have also been superb.

For what it's worth I'd have no hesitation in recommending either of the above brands and based on my experience it will be money well spent. The quality will be there long after the price is forgotten.

slave1 · 24-01-2014 04:01PM

I got destroyed in my so called rain gear a few years back, never again I swore so I got a GG top and yes it was pricy but on the rare occasions I get caught in the worst of it (usually an outing as I just don't play in the rain these days) and peel off the gear in the changing room afterwards I see all the other lads soaked through and I'm bone dry.
Earlier post said you are paying for the name, I disagree, you're paying for quality.

TrapperChamonix · 24-01-2014 04:10PM

indabunka wrote: »

I have purchased/won/received gifts of many top of the range waterproof suits (Sunderland, Proquip, Mizuno included) in my time and all have let in water at some stage or other. (I've even had some replaced under guarantee.)

However about 6 years ago I splashed out and purchased a pair of Galvin green trousers. Best decision I have ever made as to date they have been superb. At times I must admit I felt they were a little heavy for the summer so I purchased a set of Abacus Wet gear in 2011 which have also been superb.

For what it's worth I'd have no hesitation in recommending either of the above brands and based on my experience it will be money well spent. The quality will be there long after the price is forgotten.

The point is that anyone can make clothing 100% waterproof essentially by making it thicker (http://www.evo.com/waterproof-ratings-and-breathability-guide.aspx) or by using a non breathable material (in my youth waterproof shoes were rubber and sweated like hell) . The holy grail is to have the right balance of waterproof and breathable (and comfortable). Buying a 2nd set of waterproof trousers, because the GG are not comfortable / breathable / cool enough for summer, is not a great recommendation. Have you used the Abacus pants in the winter?

One thing to note about Gore Tex is that they are very prescriptive in their licensing arrangements. What this means is that they don't just license the product to the manufacture but they also insist on certain minimum quality standards and actually inspect the manufactures. By ensuring the end product is manufactured to the highest standards it protects their own reputation.

Personally I think the Golf Apparel Industry is miles behind the Ski industry in the innovation they bring to design and technology. I suspect this is due the fact that the major market is the US and it seems geared to products that cool you down in the summer rather than keep you dry in the winter.

Here's another interesting link http://www.facewest.co.uk/Gore-Tex-eVent.html?template=1274172004

p.s. taped seams are a must as no matter what technology you use, stitching will put holes in the material which in turn lets water in.

scubapro · 24-01-2014 05:30PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I would tend to agree.

I'd hold out as long as possible with a storm umbrella - keep legs dry till it is gone a bit Irish - then put on legs - they are on for the day then.

Seen a lad in a full Galvin today - the weather was grand - he was a full shot routine lad - holding up the whole course.

I'm not being racist (GGist) - but it all looked a bit precious.

I think you can only be in Green gear if you are scratch + or suffer from wet skin or have Raynauds Disease.

Hahaha fix I'd better dust ball my gg jacket so:) btw bought mine last year from mcguirks in the sales, cost 160e I think, good value tbh considering they retail around 250.

Kace · 26-01-2014 12:51AM

6 or 7 years on my GG suit and it's as good as new. I tend to get caught out about once a year where I play a full round in the rain. I hate getting cold so I find being able to stay fully dry a real bonus.

I wouldn't go anywhere else tbh.

Love the Insula Tech tops as well so I guess I have turned into a bit of a GG whore.

DuckSlice · 26-01-2014 01:07AM

I have a pair of millets waterproof over trousers. 30 pounds for them about 7 years ago, havent let anywater in and i have played in some serious rain as everyone has im sure. i will say tho that the jacket that came with it is absolute poo. i will probably invest in a new jacket this year but i wont be paying the premium that GG ask for. i will probably get one from an outdoor shop opposed to a golf shop.

Probably something like this - http://www.outdooradventurestore.ie/products/clothing/mens_clothing/mens_rainwear/rg_alpha_jcket-3714.html
or i have a Sunice windtop/waterproof but its only short sleeve and that is pretty good in the rain so might get a Sunice jacket. i believe they originally were an outdoor clothing company, although im not sure on that.

Aesop · 28-01-2014 10:54AM

Saw these last night on McGuirks seems like good value given some of the prices talked about on this thread...

http://www.mcguirksgolf.com/p/galvin-green-gents-alf-trouser-black-/p-alfbk

pinkdoubleeagle · 28-01-2014 10:59AM

Aesop wrote: »

Saw these last night on McGuirks seems like good value given some of the prices talked about on this thread...

http://www.mcguirksgolf.com/p/galvin-green-gents-alf-trouser-black-/p-alfbk

Can't go wrong at that price in fairness

dazza161989 · 28-01-2014 02:17PM

I had a sponsorship with Galvin Green a few years back and i have to say it is quality merch.......my rain gear has never let in water, one point to make tho dont dry clean em it ruins the impermeable membrane .

Fanny Brioscaí · 28-01-2014 04:34PM

Galvin Green is quality and you get what you pay for. I read someone say you should only wear GG if you play from scratch, not sure if that was tongue and cheek. I don't mind having to pay the extra, some posters have here have their GG for 6/7 years which represents value for money to me and if you can afford to to purchase the GG it seems like a worth while investment.

I spotted this deal Just Treats but i can't find any reviews online.

D Hayes · 28-01-2014 05:00PM

Aesop wrote: »

Saw these last night on McGuirks seems like good value given some of the prices talked about on this thread...

http://www.mcguirksgolf.com/p/galvin-green-gents-alf-trouser-black-/p-alfbk

That deal didn't last long - back up to normal price now.

Fanny Brioscaí · 28-01-2014 05:44PM

buysellswap wrote: »

That deal didn't last long - back up to normal price now.

What was the deal price?

PARlance · 28-01-2014 06:30PM

buysellswap wrote: »

That deal didn't last long - back up to normal price now.

Someone in IT got fired I'd say

Was a bit too much of a discount for them to have meant it I'd say

D Hayes · 28-01-2014 11:25PM

Quaint wrote: »

What was the deal price?

The pants were reduced to around €120, I think.

Galvin Green waterproof trousers

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