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criminal record

  • 13-01-2014 07:11PM
    #1
    wishmaster200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean


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  • #2
    cloud493
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Don't think it goes anywhere. Thats why they call it a record.


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wishmaster200 wrote: »
    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean

    A "friend" eh..


  • #4
    EyeSight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    wishmaster200 wrote: »
    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean

    I don't think it does. Unless you're a minor it sort of goes away when you turn 18


  • #5
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    wishmaster200 wrote: »
    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean

    Currently it's not wiped clean last for ever. But if this bill ever becomes law it will change that except in certain circumstances. http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Criminal%20Justice%20(Spent%20Convictions)%20Bill%202012-P&C.pdf/Files/Criminal%20Justice%20(Spent%20Convictions)%20Bill%202012-P&C.pdf


  • #6
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Looks lilke we will be seeing you on Nothing to declare.


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  • #7
    MonaPizza
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    wishmaster200 wrote: »
    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean

    There's a big difference between a charge and a conviction.


  • #8
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Can an employer actually do a Garda check on you in this country? What info would be in there?
    Just criminal convictions or every speeding fine etc?
    Would an unconvicted charge be on there?
    And how long would it take to get the report?

    I suppose if it was a serious conviction then you would appear near the top of a google search negating the need for the cost of a garda check.


  • #9
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Ask in the legal forum:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=633

    You will get less " I believe...." and " I think...." answers


  • #10
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Shaddupa your face by Joe Dolce, now that's a criminal record


  • #11
    .Henry Sellers.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭.Henry Sellers.


    I know a fella that still has a Police record....











    after all these years it still sounds good.


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  • #12
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Anything you do before the age of 18 is "wiped" clean (still on the Garda system, but won't show up on checks). After 18, anything you're successfully prosecuted with is permanently on your record.


  • #13
    urabell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    No everyone forgets brutal crimes like assualt


  • #14
    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Everyone comes on here asking questions for 'a friend'. Man up and admit it was you, you criminal.

    By the way it doesn't go away. Do the physical/emotional scars go away from the victim?

    Here's a :) to let you know I'm not being serious


  • #15
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Can an employer actually do a Garda check on you in this country? What info would be in there?
    Just criminal convictions or every speeding fine etc?
    Would an unconvicted charge be on there?
    And how long would it take to get the report?

    I suppose if it was a serious conviction then you would appear near the top of a google search negating the need for the cost of a garda check.

    Only certain employers (schools, hospitals, childcare etc - places that work with vulnerable people) registered with the Garda Vetting Bureau can do a check, and only with your permission (you've to sign the form etc).
    So Tesco can't just take it upon themselves to run a check on you if you apply for a job there or anything like that, no.

    If you want a job in a creche (for example) though and they are registered with the vetting bureau, and you sign off on the vetting process, all prosecutions successful or not are provided in it and also 'soft vetting' info that might not be criminal but could suggest you are a potential threat.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/monitoring_and_surveillance_at_work/garda_clearance_for_employees.html


  • #16
    renegademaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    PizzamanIRL wrote: »
    Everyone comes on here asking questions for 'a friend'. Man up and admit it was you, you criminal.

    By the way it doesn't go away. Do the physical/emotional scars go away from the victim?

    Here's a :) to let you know I'm not being serious

    what about victimless crimes??


  • #17
    delw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Can an employer actually do a Garda check on you in this country? What info would be in there?
    Just criminal convictions or every speeding fine etc?
    Would an unconvicted charge be on there?
    And how long would it take to get the report?

    I suppose if it was a serious conviction then you would appear near the top of a google search negating the need for the cost of a garda check.
    Yes any potential employer can do a back round check AFAIK,iv had it done twice, for the airport & for a CE scheme
    They used to only go back four years but not sure now


  • #18
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjAwIPElLCE


  • #19
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    The Spent Convictions legislation has not yet been enacted. For now, whatever is on a person's record, remains.

    If you were convicted for running a red light when you were seventeen, you still have that conviction on your record.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/new-bill-will-allow-minor-criminal-records-to-be-wiped-439509-May2012/
    The Bill will allow people convicted of crimes carrying jail times of a year or less, as well as crimes which carry non-custodial sentences, to act as if their convictions had never existed. It was approved at Cabinet level on Tuesday.

    The self-administered scheme will see people be able to withhold details about previous convictions within three years, if they had paid only a fine for their offence, extending to seven years in cases where they had spent 12 months in jail. The provisions will not apply when people are applying for jobs working in care services to children or vulnerable adults, for security positions, and when applying for licences as taxi drivers and bouncers.


  • #20
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    just got a copy of my record from the garda criminal records office,even something that was said by a judge not to be a conviction has shown up as exactly that,so back to court I go yet again :mad:


  • #21
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    The Mustard wrote: »
    The Spent Convictions legislation has not yet been enacted. For now, whatever is on a person's record, remains.

    If you were convicted for running a red light when you were seventeen, you still have that conviction on your record.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/new-bill-will-allow-minor-criminal-records-to-be-wiped-439509-May2012/
    look forward to seeing the amendments to this bill,trying to get work even when a minor conviction is declared is near impossible,well for me anyway.


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  • #22
    Holsten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    V.W.L 11 wrote: »
    look forward to seeing the amendments to this bill,trying to get work even when a minor conviction is declared is near impossible,well for me anyway.
    Don't declare it.


  • #23
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    Holsten wrote: »
    Don't declare it.
    had no choice,garda vetting was required #completelyscrewedoverbythelaw :(


  • #24
    Festy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    4life Hommie


  • #25
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    Festy wrote: »
    4life Hommie
    lets see what the spent convictions bill has to offer when it becomes law!


  • #26
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    For thinks like a JLO it usually is forgotten about once you turn 18 provided you don't rack them up.


  • #27
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    renegademaster wrote: »
    what about victimless crimes??

    Assault is a victimless crime?


  • #28
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Assault is a victimless crime?
    if it never happened then yes,I.M.O


  • #29
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    wishmaster200 wrote: »
    can any1 tell me how long a criminal record stays with you. i have this friend who got a assault charge in 2006 just wondering how long it stays with him before the slate is wiped clean


    Get your freind to change his name than the criminal record will vanish:)


  • #30
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    Jumboman wrote: »
    Get your freind to change his name than the criminal record will vanish:)
    deed poll :pac:


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  • #31
    Epic1337
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Epic1337


    Max Power is a good name to change it to.


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