Why do so many people hate whats popular ?

Artful_Badger · 27-12-2013 04:50PM #1

People always seem to feel the need to scoff and ridicule things that are popular but they themselves dont like. They write these things off as low brow crap liked by ignorant dopes. Xfactor, Mrs Browns Boys, Boybands, Soaps etc etc.

I'm not in anyway a fan of anything listed above btw, but imo I dont like them, I dont watch them/listen to them and thats as far as my involvement goes. Why do people hate these things and those who like them ?

Is it just an excuse to be arseholes with people in general just naturally assholes, is it a child like strop because all entertainment isnt what they want or are people just so up their own holes that they think anyone who doesnt agree with them are stupid ignorant idiots that must not be able to think at all ?

How about a new years resolution. You do your thing, let others do theirs and keep your ignorant, pompous, arrogant, hate filled opinions to yourselves.

Happy New Year.

shane9689 · 27-12-2013 04:56PM

its more to do with what they represent and what they encourage more than anything else...yeah some people jump on the hate bandwagon, but most have legitimate reasons to hate these things

xfactor is hated because of the damage it does to the music industry, i could go into it but id be here all day, just google it or something

Agricola · 27-12-2013 04:57PM

Not conforming to societal norms = Cool, intelligent and rebellious.

Exceptions to the rule do exist. Mrs Brown being one of them. Cos that really is shít.

27-12-2013 05:02PM

The kind of people who are most vehemently scornful of the likes of X-Factor and soap operas often seem do so to project a cooler image. Why anyone else cares if someone is a 1 Direction fan or likes watching Coronation Street is beyond me. The world would be very boring if we all liked the same things.

I don't care what anyone else reads, listens to, watches, or wears. It's not compulsory to follow the herd, or more worthy to despise it.

Shenshen · 27-12-2013 05:03PM

Personally, I live perfectly happily ignoring all of the things mentioned above.

But - and that's where I'm starting to have a problem - I have work colleagues who will talk about nothing else at lunch time. Or when having a short social chat while waiting for the kettle to boil. Or in the lift. And that does grate on my nerves.

I don't hate any of the shows or things the OP mentions; I don't like them so I try and avoid them.
What I hate are people making that difficult for me.

OldRio · 27-12-2013 05:10PM

Or
Why do some people criticise people who hate what's popular.

27-12-2013 05:10PM

shane9689 wrote: »

its more to do with what they represent and what they encourage more than anything else...yeah some people jump on the hate bandwagon, but most have legitimate reasons to hate these things

Hate is a really strong word. I can't understand caring enough about stuff you don't like to actually summon up hate. Annoyance maybe, or dislike.

Shenshen wrote: »

I don't hate any of the shows or things the OP mentions; I don't like them so I try and avoid them.
What I hate are people making that difficult for me.

Same as, I don't engage enough with them to hate them. Luckily for me though, I don't have any one around me who talks about them all the time. That would drive me mental.

HerrScheisse · 27-12-2013 05:11PM

I think that generally people hate bad quality. And trash. And visual and aural excrement. Like a dry dog turd rubbed in your eye or stuffed into your ear.

The irony that the writers of the Sopranos had troubles getting their story sold, only HBO was willing to take a chance, and now they are one of the most successful studios in the world, the went against the flow of commercialism to produce quality, and in a bitter irony, became a very commercial studio, yet one that still produces quality.

I woukld say people hate trash, and time again it is proven by the success of quality music and quality film, yet studios go for the quick mass market trash and the guaranteed formulated calculated return.

Rod Serling · 27-12-2013 05:12PM

I don't like any of those things, but I don't talk about em. Out of sight out of mind.

To be honest I'd rather see people talk about X Factor on Facebook than see a lad bitch about people talking about X Factor. What's the point? What do you achieve? My favourite is the lads who post something like "ugh 15 posts about xfactor f*ck off spamming my news feed!" then they post 15 updates during the football the next night!

Shenshen · 27-12-2013 05:12PM

Candie wrote: »

Same as, I don't engage enough with them to hate them. Luckily for me though, I don't have any one around me who talks about them all the time. That would drive me mental.

I try and avoid them, but the kitchen at work is a small place indeed.
Thankfully they're off on holidays at the moment

jack presley · 27-12-2013 05:13PM

I hate lots of things, both popular and unpopular. But for the most part, only the popular ones come up in conversation so while it may come across that I only hate popular things like Mrs. Brown's Boys and the X factor, I hate a load of other stuff too

jam_mac_jam · 27-12-2013 05:15PM

I hate X factor and will sneer at it because I have to go into pubs and see it on the television, I have to listen to people talk about it and it ruins music. If that makes me ignorant, pompous, arrogant, hate filled that really doesn't bother me.

Soaps and Mrs Browns boys don't do any harm and is just a matter of different taste. X factor is pathetic.

Cabaal · 27-12-2013 05:16PM

X-Factor = mass produced, mindless commercialism
Nothing more, its all about pushing what they want pushed. Its not about skill or talent.

Artful_Badger · 27-12-2013 05:17PM

OldRio wrote: »

Or
Why do some people criticise people who hate what's popular.

Because along with the hate of whats popular is hate of those who like whats popular. It never stops at "I hate that show" its always "I hate that show, its low brow crap for idiots". If you're that invested in something to actually hate it then you're gonna have a very lowly opinion of anyone who likes it.

And I have no time for anyone who think others are beneath them simply because they watch or listen to something different. If a group of idiots laughed at anyone here for watching some science show (I know people on here are sciency folks) we'd all to a man/woman be disgusted as such an ignorant display. Yet change it to something most here dont like and its all good, lets scoff at the losers watching stuff we wouldnt dream of watching.

Thrill · 27-12-2013 05:17PM

Agricola wrote: »

Exceptions to the rule do exist. Mrs Brown being one of them. Cos that really is shít.

Nice wagon you've got here. Mind if I climb aboard?

Burky126 · 27-12-2013 05:24PM

I'm eternally gratefully that we now live in world were freedom of what media we choose to consume is right at our fingertips!

I shudder to think years ago having to sit through christmas tv of the past...imagine if this was all we had 20 years ago.

Dreadful thought.

SherlockWatson · 27-12-2013 05:26PM

Hipsters.

Femme_Fatale · 27-12-2013 05:28PM

I don't go on and on about stuff like that being sh1t, as it has been said before numerous times. I certainly wouldn't dislike someone whom I otherwise like, just because they are into X Factor and the like.
But on the occasion that I do express my irritation at X Factor etc (because it is bewilderingly sh1t, and its audiences are dropping too) it has nothing to do with it being popular, it is not due to feeling superior, or "an excuse to be an arsehole with people in general, a child-like strop because all entertainment isn't what I want, or being just so up my hole that I think anyone who doesn't agree with me is a stupid ignorant idiot that must not be able to think at all" or "ignorant, pompous, arrogant, hate filled" of me (where the bejesus is all of this coming from?

) it is simply one thing: personal preference, really nothing more to it and it's getting annoying at the way otherwise rational people need that spelled out for them.

What is it with the reverse snobbery trend of being dismissive towards people who like "alt" stuff and express a distaste for stuff that happens to be mainstream (the latter may not actually be the reason for it; just that they think it's sh1t) - the throwing around of "hipster" at anyone at all (including from people who aren't into mainstream stuff either) and stuff like sneering at any atheist at all (including from people who are atheists saying they aren't atheists and hate atheists) not just the arsehole ones? And I'm not a grammar nazi whatsoever as I realise not everyone has a good grasp of writing, but there's this tendency of late to pretend any writing at all is grand, even if it's virtually illegible - because it's socking it to the grammar nazis.
All the above is far more of a bandwagon.

Fukuyama · 27-12-2013 05:28PM

I hate XFACTOR because is produced to satisfy the lowest common denominator of entertainment consumers.

It's tripe, produced to fulfill a ROI formula.

shane9689 · 27-12-2013 05:29PM

"And I have no time for anyone who think others are beneath them simply because they watch or listen to something different."

i think nazi's are pathetic (not gonig to say beneath me though) ...i think people who listen to racist music are too, does that make me a bad person?

i think people who believe in "more money more bitches" are kind of sad aswell, dont you? i mean even in the slightest, not think thats abit sad? to be racist or to be so materialistic?

its not about an individual thing arthur....its all to do with culture, society and how these things shape they way people think....its not just a case of "i dont like that melody, so i hate this song and youre beneath me", it goes much deeper than that, its to do with manipulation and encouraging por social behavior etc....alot more than a case of i dont like this so im angry

i dont think we should just accept the norm, that can turn out very badly in some cases....to look at an extreme example, look at nazi germany or facist rome...to take a modern example, look at the influence the movie project x had......teenie boppers started going mental for a month after that movie...personally i like the movie, but its just a clear example

Agricola · 27-12-2013 05:30PM

Thrill wrote: »

Nice wagon you've got here. Mind if I climb aboard?

Sorry, my wagon is only for cool, intelligent rebellious people. Keep up.

Links234 · 27-12-2013 05:32PM

All of the things you've mentioned are legitimately awful though

keith16 · 27-12-2013 05:34PM

I hate MS Excel.

Just kidding. I love it.

SUMIF and VLOOKUP are two of my favourite formulae.

MadYaker · 27-12-2013 05:35PM

The only thing I hate more than x factor is people who go on and on about how much they hate x factor and how its destroying the music industry (which it isn't).

Femme_Fatale · 27-12-2013 05:36PM

Agricola wrote: »

Sorry, my wagon is only for cool, intelligent rebellious people. Keep up.

As if it's really bandwagon-jumping and hipsterish to genuinely dislike Mrs Brown's Boys. People who pretend not to see what others dislike in it are the ones who are trying to be all different.

Artful_Badger · 27-12-2013 05:38PM

HerrScheisse wrote: »

I think that generally people hate bad quality. And trash. And visual and aural excrement. Like a dry dog turd rubbed in your eye or stuffed into your ear.

The irony that the writers of the Sopranos had troubles getting their story sold, only HBO was willing to take a chance, and now they are one of the most successful studios in the world, the went against the flow of commercialism to produce quality, and in a bitter irony, became a very commercial studio, yet one that still produces quality.

I woukld say people hate trash, and time again it is proven by the success of quality music and quality film, yet studios go for the quick mass market trash and the guaranteed formulated calculated return.

Whats bad quality trash to you is hours and hours of enjoyment and entertainment of millions of people. Its all supposed to be just entertainment whether you're watching Tony Soprano put the squeeze on someone or someone singing a song on xfactor, its all just entertainment. To call one thing trash because its not good enough for you despite it being good enough for plenty of others is just simply arrogance.

Those formulas work because its what people in general enjoy watching and the reason they are made is to make a profit. HBO themselves would quickly change their tune if viewers wernt good enough as they exist to make money not to produce masterpieces. They just happened to have hit on a good thing of giving more creative control to the creators.

George Huxley 1983 · 27-12-2013 05:39PM

Familiarity breathes contempt

Agricola · 27-12-2013 05:42PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

As if it's really bandwagon-jumping and hipsterish to genuinely dislike Mrs Brown's Boys. People who pretend not to see what others dislike in it are the ones who are trying to be all different.

Exactly. That, or some kind of miss placed patriotism because its a case of a Dub done well. I have no truck with Brendan O Carroll making a tonne of money and collecting awards for his show. Fair play to him. But Im not going to pretend it's any good when it clearly isnt.

Artful_Badger · 27-12-2013 05:44PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I don't go on and on about stuff like that being sh1t, as it has been said before numerous times. I certainly wouldn't dislike someone whom I otherwise like, just because they are into X Factor and the like.
But on the occasion that I do express my irritation at X Factor etc (because it is bewilderingly sh1t, and its audiences are dropping too) it has nothing to do with it being popular, it is not due to feeling superior, or "an excuse to be an arsehole with people in general, a child-like strop because all entertainment isn't what I want, or being just so up my hole that I think anyone who doesn't agree with me is a stupid ignorant idiot that must not be able to think at all" or "ignorant, pompous, arrogant, hate filled" of me (where the bejesus is all of this coming from? ) it is simply one thing: personal preference, really nothing more to it and it's getting annoying at the way otherwise rational people need that spelled out for them.

What is it with the reverse snobbery trend of being dismissive towards people who like "alt" stuff and express a distaste for stuff that happens to be mainstream (the latter may not actually be the reason for it; just that they think it's sh1t) - the throwing around of "hipster" at anyone at all (including from people who aren't into mainstream stuff either) and stuff like sneering at any atheist at all (including from people who are atheists saying they aren't atheists and hate atheists) not just the arsehole ones? And I'm not a grammar nazi whatsoever as I realise not everyone has a good grasp of writing, but there's this tendency of late to pretend any writing at all is grand, even if it's virtually illegible - because it's socking it to the grammar nazis.
All the above is far more of a bandwagon.

Because thats what I see, every time a thread pops up with a show being bashed the perceived bad quality of the show is always put forth as proof the viewers are idiots. My problem is that its not just personal preference, its hatred directed at others for liking different things.

I have no problem with people liking other stuff or disliking anything. As I said my problem is the "I hate X show, its low grade crap for morons". I agree with the athiest thing (I think), and again its based on looking down on people and opinions rather than disagreeing with them which is my point with this thread. Why the hate simply because of a difference of opinion ?

Plazaman · 27-12-2013 05:45PM

I watched Mrs Browns Boys on Christmas Day. Got a giggle or two out of it and cringed at the jokes that were about 10 years old but O Carroll recycles them succesfully as he's dressed as an auld wan.

Not calling it my favourite TV show but then again when someone says to me it's the best show ever, I'm not going to go off in a rant. 9 million plus people can't all be wrong. It seems to happen with Irish or Irish related TV shows/artists, Love/Hate, Fr Ted, etc. Chris De Burgh gets mad stick off some Irish people but the guy still sells half a million plus records each year worldwide and if he said to me "Plaza, will you shag my daughter?", you know, I would.

Thrill · 27-12-2013 05:49PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

As if it's really bandwagon-jumping and hipsterish to genuinely dislike Mrs Brown's Boys.

I genuinely dislike it. My sister thinks its one of the most hilarious things on T.V. and said I should watch it. I tried a few episodes but never managed to watch a full one.

To each their own.

Why do so many people hate whats popular ?

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