Vermin Count Competition - Kerry R.G.C.

Terrier · 20-11-2013 03:00PM

Backfire wrote: »

Just wanted to say congrats to Pallas/Kilflynn once again for obtaining first place with a massive points total of 47,880 points (295 foxes, 12 mink and 3843 greys/mags). I am sure its safe to say that they are contenders for the national NARGC trophy and potential winners of it once again.

3843 Greys\Mags.. so that club kills an average of 10 birds a day all year round!!
I'm sorry but unless they have one massive club with every member returning, something is not adding up. :mad:

Invincible · 20-11-2013 04:14PM

Terrier wrote: »

3843 Greys\Mags.. so that club kills an average of 10 birds a day all year round!!
I'm sorry but unless they have one massive club with every member returning, something is not adding up. :mad:

Total Magpies for Kerry count was 5284
Total Greycrow for Kerry count was 3510
Total Fox for Kerry count was 1251
Total Mink for Kerry count was 269

ace86 · 20-11-2013 06:00PM

dodderangler wrote: »

Rooks definitely do damage to nesting birds and eggs.
Jackdaws don't but are just ugly ba5tards

ya sound i probably understand the rooks will probably raid nests and take the eggs and things.

shoot to kill · 20-11-2013 06:05PM

Invincible wrote: »

Total Magpies for Kerry count was 5284
Total Greycrow for Kerry count was 3510
Total Fox for Kerry count was 1251
Total Mink for Kerry count was 269

Savage numbers. All I can say is well done to anyone involved.

ace86 · 20-11-2013 06:08PM

Invincible wrote: »

Total Magpies for Kerry count was 5284
Total Greycrow for Kerry count was 3510
Total Fox for Kerry count was 1251
Total Mink for Kerry count was 269

How do u know how many greycrows and magpies were caught bcos all i got was a combination of both as a total count?

Tommy87 · 20-11-2013 07:02PM

Terrier wrote: »

3843 Greys\Mags.. so that club kills an average of 10 birds a day all year round!!
I'm sorry but unless they have one massive club with every member returning, something is not adding up. :mad:

What are you trying to say?

shoot to kill · 20-11-2013 07:16PM

Invincible wrote: »

Total Magpies for Kerry count was 5284
Total Greycrow for Kerry count was 3510
Total Fox for Kerry count was 1251
Total Mink for Kerry count was 269

Savage numbers. All I can say is well done to anyone involved.

Invincible · 20-11-2013 07:33PM

ace86 wrote: »

How do u know how many greycrows and magpies were caught bcos all i got was a combination of both as a total count?

Because I have access to the counts.

Backfire · 20-11-2013 08:19PM

Invincible wrote: »

Because I have access to the counts.

Isn't there some prize for the club with the most magpies and/or most greys?

Is it possible to tell the difference between grey crow legs and rook legs?

ace86 · 20-11-2013 08:22PM

Invincible wrote: »

Because I have access to the counts.

so have I and all I got was a combined total that was submitted by all clubs in the county.

Backfire · 20-11-2013 08:25PM

ace86 wrote: »

so have I and all I got was a combined total that was submitted by all clubs in the county.

he probably meant that he has access to the count from the regional game council themselves, as in I have been told that they do separate out the magpies from the grey crows and count them separately, even though it is not typed up on the sheet we got.

ace86 · 20-11-2013 08:27PM

Backfire wrote: »

he probably meant that he has access to the count from the regional game council themselves, as in I have been told that they do separate out the magpies from the grey crows and count them separately, even though it is not typed up on the sheet we got.

ok sound but I can't see why they couldnt put it in the sheet along with everything else but no matters its just nice to know is all.

Invincible · 20-11-2013 08:36PM

ace86 wrote: »

so have I and all I got was a combined total that was submitted by all clubs in the county.

I mean nationally, seperate column for each species.

Invincible · 20-11-2013 08:40PM

Backfire wrote: »

Isn't there some prize for the club with the most magpies and/or most greys?

Is it possible to tell the difference between grey crow legs and rook legs?

Yes there are prizes for each category.
I don't know how you'd distinguish between Grey's legs or Rook's legs. We only count wings, Kerry is only county I know of that counted legs.

Backfire · 20-11-2013 08:41PM

Invincible wrote: »

I mean nationally, seperate column for each species.

is this info noted for all counties in Ireland? Do all counties have their own vermin count?

is any of this info or figures published by the NARGC?

ace86 · 20-11-2013 08:42PM

Invincible wrote: »

I mean nationally, seperate column for each species.

ok sound we just get the combined result from the County Board itself and when the club counts the legs we just count them all together,Sometimes its hard to tell crows legs and magies apart i know size would be a good indication, how do you know which is which when yer counting?

Invincible · 20-11-2013 09:30PM

Backfire wrote: »

is this info noted for all counties in Ireland? Do all counties have their own vermin count?

is any of this info or figures published by the NARGC?

This count is noted for each county, each has their own count. It's not published to general public but is available at county level.

Invincible · 21-11-2013 12:31AM

ace86 wrote: »

ok sound we just get the combined result from the County Board itself and when the club counts the legs we just count them all together,Sometimes its hard to tell crows legs and magies apart i know size would be a good indication, how do you know which is which when yer counting?

Well the County board have the details if they are asked.
We only count wings and tails(fox & mink) in our County.
I don't know how ye tell the difference, or why ye went away from wings in the first place? It left it open to abuse.

ace86 · 21-11-2013 12:38AM

Invincible wrote: »

Well the County board have the details if they are asked.
We only count wings and tails(fox & mink) in our County.
I don't know how ye tell the difference, or why ye went away from wings in the first place? It left it open to abuse.

ah we are actual only moving to wings as of this yr for 2014 Count as the rest of the country are at it and the reason wings are used I suppose is to stop the abuse of guys throwing in any crow/rook leg and to verify with out doubt u have a GreyCrow/Magpie.

dodderangler · 21-11-2013 10:25AM

What about if you guys freeze the heads.
I know some lads freeze the fox tails for the count at end of the year.

Invincible · 21-11-2013 10:34AM

dodderangler wrote: »

What about if you guys freeze the heads.
I know some lads freeze the fox tails for the count at end of the year.

Don't know of any heads being counted, wings and tails. As competition runs from September-September, there's no problem with keeping/freezing your vermin.

Backfire · 10-12-2013 03:02PM

Reading the latest shooter's digest magazine I see pictures of the NARGC awarding selected members as representatives of their counties, prizes for the vermin competitions.

I can gather that there is competitions for the following:

Magpie control competition
Grey crow control competition
Rook control for crop protection competition
Pigeon control for crop protection comp.
Fox control competition.
Grey Squirrel control
Overall Vermin control competition

The winners of each competition are county based, not club based.
So, for example, Kerry won the magpie and grey crow competitions.

The results printed on the sheets and given to clubs is just the overall vermin competition results for you county.
But no info on how your county compared to other counties or how this is judged. Simply on numbers?

There is also an individual prize for the best vermin or predator control club. Pallas/kilflynn in Kerry won that and not surprising given the huge numbers of legs and fox tails they submitted.

Anyone else see these photos in the magazine? what are your thoughts on it? or can anyone shed even more information on it.

Like, what are the official list of counties that take part in the rook and pigeon competitions? Obviously Kerry is not one of them.

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