The Self pitying garda...

Mr.McLovin · 20-11-2013 02:55PM #1

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rank-and-file-garda-reveals-day-to-day-struggle-people-spit-at-me-kick-punch-and-headbutt-me-29770709.html

A GARDA has claimed that a number of his colleagues are contacting charities for financial assistance due to stinging pay cuts.

The rank-and-file officer, writing anonymously, claims he has had people “spit at me, kick, punch and headbutt me”.

“People don’t care whether or not if they hurt or assault members anymore,” he writes.

“I’ve heard reports of members having to go to their parents for financial support or to the St Vincent de Paul Society to put food on the table, to have fuel to light their fires or to get clothes to clothe their children.

“A lot of gardai got greedy during the good times but it didn’t help when a certain mortgage lender asked you how much you wanted when you enquired about a mortgage.”

Sounds like a bit of a whinger this guy, I'm not really sure what he expects giving this interview to the newspaper as average joe is feeling the pinch every bit as much. When you hear of the taxi driver in Finglas last night being shot in the legs over a fare, its hard to empathise with somebody trained and paid to deal with scum when a lot of us our dealing with what he describes on our doorsteps.

I think most people are running low on sympathy for this type of article and will most likely have the opposite effect to what he was trying to achieve.

super_furry · 20-11-2013 02:57PM

"The rank-and-file officer, writing anonymously, claims he has had people “spit at me, kick, punch and headbutt me".

And that's just in the station canteen.

Boombastic · 20-11-2013 02:58PM

what brand cornflakes doess he/she eat?

can they not just up their take from the evidence locker?

hansfrei · 20-11-2013 03:00PM

They don't get paid so well as far as I know.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-11-2013 03:05PM

hansfrei wrote: »

They don't get paid so well as far as I know.

they do, as well as the allowances and a lotto win pension at the end of it

cuana · 20-11-2013 03:06PM

Well in fairness he signed up for the guards violence against them is bound to happen. Many people are struggling financially and are in need of support whatever there job description/title may be.

gobnaitolunacy · 20-11-2013 03:07PM

“A lot of gardai got greedy during the good times but it didn’t help when a certain mortgage lender asked you how much you wanted when you enquired about a mortgage.”

That's your problem, right there.
Boo-hoo.

hansfrei · 20-11-2013 03:08PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they do, as well as the allowances and a lotto win pension at the end of it

Can't argue with the lotto pension. Dunno if the payscale is great. This country is seriously expensive.

jamesbondings · 20-11-2013 03:08PM

Arm them. They won't face these difficulties for long.......

Eight Ball · 20-11-2013 03:08PM

Must be hard being on 65k a year after 10yrs service with a gold plated pension at the end of it. I know people who would give their left bollox for a package like that.

Boombastic · 20-11-2013 03:09PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they do, as well as the allowances and a lotto win pension at the end of it

not to mention the free cups of coffee, chips and other undeclared benefit in kind

Eight Ball · 20-11-2013 03:09PM

hansfrei wrote: »

Can't argue with the lotto pension. Dunno if the payscale is great. This country is seriously expensive.

It's as expensive for a garda as it is for someone who works the tills at Tesco.

flutered · 20-11-2013 03:16PM

he is welcome to live on my inviladity pension,€193 with falling perks ie add ons, people verbally abuse me telling me how i am a drain in the countrys finances, i was spat on punched etc while working as a store dective, much harder than a gardas wwork, it paid schit money as well, what does he want, pity, everything thats going this goverment took in their austerity budgets, bar theit own wages and perks, look at pics of the cabenit when it was formed, look at a pic of them now, they have in farming parlance throve well, no ivomic was used on them. each one has had their pants and neck size increaced to xxxx. while they preach how well things are.

mattjack · 20-11-2013 03:17PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

Must be hard being on 65k a year after 10yrs service with a gold plated pension at the end of it. I know people who would give their left bollox for a package like that.

where did you see that figure of 65k ?

Soft Falling Rain · 20-11-2013 03:20PM

cuana wrote: »

Well in fairness he signed up for the guards violence against them is bound to happen. Many people are struggling financially and are in need of support whatever there job description/title may be.

Agreed, the way some of them go on you'd swear they thought that they were signing up for a handy number.

Xeyn · 20-11-2013 03:21PM

The Garda in this country are amongst the best police service I have seen and Ive lived in a few countries. One of the reasons might be because they get paid a decent salary. I dont begrudge them that at all, they do a fine job as far as im concerned.

Eight Ball · 20-11-2013 03:21PM

mattjack wrote: »

where did you see that figure of 65k ?

I didn't see it anywhere I have a family friend who is a Garda 12 years now and even after cuts he is on that kind of money. The fecker moans every time I see him about how he's finding it hard to pay off his 2200 a month mortgage. The sense of entitlement from some sectors of our society is breath taking.

Cd_doe · 20-11-2013 03:23PM

flutered wrote: »

while working as a store dective, much harder than a gardas wwork, .

That's just funny.

thestar · 20-11-2013 03:23PM

How bad is garda pay? I know they get paid weekly and one of the weeks payment is bigger than the other 3 for some reason.. I find it hard to believe that some are only coming out with 400e a week after tax.

tv_king · 20-11-2013 03:24PM

hansfrei wrote: »

Can't argue with the lotto pension. Dunno if the payscale is great. This country is seriously expensive.

prior to the start of PS cuts in 2008 , the average guard was on nearly 1100 per week excluding overtime , work out the level of pay cuts since + pension levy and that's your answer

new entrants would be on a lot less than those who signed up six years ago however

tv_king · 20-11-2013 03:25PM

Xeyn wrote: »

The Garda in this country are amongst the best police service I have seen and Ive lived in a few countries. One of the reasons might be because they get paid a decent salary. I dont begrudge them that at all, they do a fine job as far as im concerned.

police forces must be truly awful in other countries if ours are amongst the best

AGS are great if you are someone who is important

Xeyn · 20-11-2013 03:26PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

I didn't see it anywhere I have a family friend who is a Garda 12 years now and even after cuts he is on that kind of money. The fecker moans every time I see him about how he's finding it hard to pay off his 2200 a month mortgage. The sense of entitlement from some sectors of our society is breath taking.

I heard a private sector moaning the other day. The private sector must be full of people with a sense of entitlement so.

tv_king · 20-11-2013 03:26PM

mattjack wrote: »

where did you see that figure of 65k ?

a guard with ten years experience would easily be on that as a gross salary including overtime , a seargent ( and above ) would be on that as a base

TerrorFirmer · 20-11-2013 03:29PM

thestar wrote: »

How bad is garda pay? I know they get paid weekly and one of the weeks payment is bigger than the other 3 for some reason.. I find it hard to believe that some are only coming out with 400e a week after tax.

That would be what, 24k gross or whatever? Sounds about right for a starting or junior guard.

mattjack · 20-11-2013 03:30PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

I didn't see it anywhere I have a family friend who is a Garda 12 years now and even after cuts he is on that kind of money. The fecker moans every time I see him about how he's finding it hard to pay off his 2200 a month mortgage. The sense of entitlement from some sectors of our society is breath taking.

Ah.... anecdotal evidence , the best kind of evidence.
Its about 44k annually.

maximoose · 20-11-2013 03:30PM

“A lot of gardai got greedy during the good times but it didn’t help when a certain mortgage lender asked you how much you wanted when you enquired about a mortgage.”

Were they supposed to just guess?

Wicklowrider · 20-11-2013 03:32PM

Indo editor to reporter: " What have you got for me today?"
reporter: "jack all, I'll make something up and do the usual - quote unamed source...."

A.H "Wouldn't believe a word from the Indo - oh wait here they are with a chance to have a go at the Gardai ( or unemployed or single mothers or one legged pregnant grannies....) Grand, so , lets believe every word..."

20-11-2013 03:40PM

You wouldn't be able to pay me enough to be a Garda. I wouldnt' be able to cope with being confronted with the worst of humanity and human nature on a daily basis. I'm sure most of them have things that can never been unseen that have stayed with them.

I'd hate to be stuck on duty on a Saturday night, dealing with the knives, the fights, the drunken aggro and the general crap they have to deal with. And that's before you get to the real gems of sex assaults, stabbings, shootings, murders, child abuses, and the rest of the things the rest of us don't have to deal with.

And of course there's the ill-informed contempt of people on the internet to contend with.

Whatever they're paid, it probably isn't enough as far as I'm concerned, and I'm grateful they go out and do the job they do every day.

thestar · 20-11-2013 03:40PM

Its accepted that Gardai and Soldiers and poorly paid and not the first time iv seen it in the media. It should not be hard to have the basics in life with the wages they are on but some have huge mortgages and that is where the problem is

Padraig Mor · 20-11-2013 03:47PM

mattjack wrote: »

Ah.... anecdotal evidence , the best kind of evidence.
Its about 44k annually.

Average Garda rank (i.e. 'rank and file'; the lowest rank) pay is €57k including premium payments according to the Dept of Justice. They should know - they pay them! The story in the OP is a pile of rubbish.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 20-11-2013 03:49PM

I used to semi date a guard, and tbh, he didn't seem to be in need of any financial assistance from charities, there also seemed to be a good bit of overtime too.

The Self pitying garda...

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