Bankrupt developer's wife awarded €9000 per month living expenses

Montroseee · 13-11-2013 11:34PM

professore wrote: »

"Normal" people are faced with these decisions every day. Such bs.

It's not the children's fault their parents gambled. I would not begrudge them their fees for school, the rent however.....

K-9 · 13-11-2013 11:36PM

Montroseee wrote: »

There is no information on what year that child is in. If they were in 6th year for example, moving schools and teachers etc. could have a negative impact on exam results. I would not bemoan those school fees tbh.

True, there are always exceptional cases.

Boombastic wrote: »

About the school fees

This is an article from the independent 25 July 2013 http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/omahony-family-to-leave-6m-home-by-christmas-29448343.html

.....Frank Beatty, counsel for Ms Connolly, appealed to the judge for an eight months stay on the order to allow the children complete the current school year before quitting their home..............

Why did she she them back to that school in September? She couldn't afford it.

That might have been the article the AH thread was on. It reeks of D4 stereotypical status symbols like private education seen as reasonable, in most of the country very few would have the option of private, never mind seeing it as essential.

Montroseee · 13-11-2013 11:36PM

Gatling wrote: »

Actually its well known issue in private schools where parents are refusing to pay fee's in 6th year safe in the knowledge there son/ daughter won't be kicked our prior to the leaving cert ,
Many private schools are now in discussions with dept of education to become normal non fee secondary schools

They won't be kicked out, they will however be pursued through the courts and get a judgement quite easily.

Gatling · 13-11-2013 11:37PM

Montroseee wrote: »

It's not the children's fault their parents gambled. I would not begrudge them their fees for school, the rent however.....

So its ok for a family in say a council house who run into trouble with rent arrears to be evicted and having to move to a new area and there kids change schools

But its not OK for the well off

Boombastic · 13-11-2013 11:38PM

Montroseee wrote: »

It's not the children's fault their parents gambled. I would not begrudge them their fees for school, the rent however.....

It's not their fault but there are consequences to their parents actions which may affect them. I've not much sympathy for them to be honest, living in a 3 bed house, going to the local school, the same as the rest of us, maybe the best thing that ever happened to them

The parents should have made better choices.

K-9 · 13-11-2013 11:38PM

Montroseee wrote: »

It's not the children's fault their parents gambled.

I'd normally be all for that reasoning for basic things, but come on, we are chatting the difference between sending then to the local Tech or Blackrock, or whatever the private school of choice is.

My name is URL · 13-11-2013 11:42PM

Shut the fcuk up and pay yizzer TV licences you smelly hippies.

Montroseee · 13-11-2013 11:47PM

K-9 wrote: »

I'd normally be all for that reasoning for basic things, but come on, we are chatting the difference between sending then to the local Tech or Blackrock, or whatever the private school of choice is.

TBH once the children weren't in the Junior Cert years I wouldn't have a problem with my taxes helping fund their education. People are underestimating the effect it could have on their results, it's not fair. The rent money is clearly the issue here.

General General · 13-11-2013 11:51PM

Montroseee wrote: »

There is no information on what year that child is in. If they were in 6th year for example, moving schools and teachers etc. could have a negative impact on exam results. I would not bemoan those school fees tbh.

Why should any kid then not have an award for monthly education fees of a thousand plus euro, paid for by the tax payer?

Seriously, it's not any kid's fault that their parents cannot afford those fees.

& any kid who has never had the kind of attention that a thousand plus euro per month education fee buys NEEDS it, surely, much more than someone who has had the experience for a good while.

Gulliver · 13-11-2013 11:51PM

This is terrible. Next thing you know this poor woman will be reduced to buying her food in M&S and her Manolo Blahniks when they're nearly out of season. I think that judge should be disbarred for that judgement. How he thinks she can live on that pittance is beyond me. I mean that works out at €300 a day. What can you buy for €300 a day? Nothing, that's what.

Montroseee · 13-11-2013 11:55PM

General General wrote: »

Why should any kid then not have an award for monthly education fees of a thousand plus euro, paid for by the tax payer?

Seriously, it's not any kid's fault that their parents cannot afford those fees.

& any kid who has never had the kind of attention that a thousand plus euro per month education fee buys NEEDS it, surely, much more than someone who has had the experience for a good while.

Changing schools is a very big deal at that age. It may not seem like it is to adults but believe me it really is. I changed schools in 5th yr and it without doubt adversely affected my results. Thankfully the court seemed to understand this, the rest of the judgement I strongly oppose.

Muahahaha · 13-11-2013 11:55PM

Days 298 wrote: »

Living expenses. Only €9000 a month! :eek: We will see her on the trocaire box next Easter. Shame on the judge doesn't he know about mimimum standards the state should ensure citizens receive.

I presume this was heard in the High Court. If so the judge himself is getting paid around €20,000 per month so he probably thought to himself that she'll be practically on the poverty line on €9,000 a month.

Just goes to show how out of touch the judiciary are with the common man on the street. I seem to remember an identical case about 18 months back where Justice Peter Kelly awarded a developers wife around €6k a month to run her house, a McMansion somewhere round the midlands. Peter Kelly is normally one of the more realistic judges who doesn't take any sh1t, he even threatened Michael o'Leary with jail time if he didn't take his hands out of his pockets and stop acting the muppet in court. But in that instance he allowed to stay in a huge house at the taxpayers expense, he got it totally wrong, again it is a case of our judges being paid way too much and then thinking that needing thousands per month to run a house is reasonable.

My name is URL · 13-11-2013 11:56PM

Montroseee wrote: »

People are underestimating the effect it could have on their results, it's not fair. The rent money is clearly the issue here.

The issue here is that nobody needs €9000 per month to 'live'.

Will a cut in the amount of money spent on their education have any significant effect on other people? No.. so don't expect them to row in in support of such entitled little leeches.

Dyr · 13-11-2013 11:56PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Wife of bankrupt developer Larry O’Mahony - a former business partner of Priory Hall developer Thomas McFeely - has been awarded €9000 living expenses:

www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/developer-s-wife-awarded-9-000-a-month-expenses-1.1593800

God forbid they might have to rent a house in Dublin 5 or drive a 6 year mid-range family car :eek:

It seems it really is one rule in this country for the haves and the have-nots.

thank god they're "topping up" the money the state pays towards private school with their own income.

K-9 · 13-11-2013 11:58PM

Montroseee wrote: »

The rent money is clearly the issue here.

Not really. Can you recommend somewhere substantially cheaper than €800 a month? The issue here is the private education.

hfallada · 14-11-2013 12:00AM

She has gone from living in a large house on Ailesbury road(repossessed by NAMA) to a rented house somewhere else. She has lost everything because of the actions of her husband. Why should she and her children have to suffer by the actions of her husband? €9000 is a lot of money, but its probably spare change to what she was used to.

Gatling · 14-11-2013 12:02AM

hfallada wrote: »

She has gone from living in a large house on Ailesbury road(repossessed by NAMA) to a rented house somewhere else. She has lost everything because of the actions of her husband. Why should she and her children have to suffer by the actions of her husband? €9000 is a lot of money, but its probably spare change to what she was used to.

She could well easily get a job ,

I can personally think of a few jobs she could probably do quite well

Red21 · 14-11-2013 12:05AM

Montroseee wrote: »

People are underestimating the effect it could have on their results, it's not fair.

I doubt many give a flying **** how these kids do in the Leaving, i'd say the education they've recieved from their parents and how society works cannot be undone.

K-9 · 14-11-2013 12:05AM

K-9 wrote: »

Not really. Can you recommend somewhere substantially cheaper than €800 a month? The issue here is the private education.

Oops, arithmetic error. €800 a week

. Think she might find somewhere a bit cheaper.

Boombastic · 14-11-2013 12:09AM

Could she not go for a jog instead of playing golf? Golf? really??

markesmith · 14-11-2013 12:13AM

hfallada wrote: »

She has gone from living in a large house on Ailesbury road(repossessed by NAMA) to a rented house somewhere else. She has lost everything because of the actions of her husband. Why should she and her children have to suffer by the actions of her husband? €9000 is a lot of money, but its probably spare change to what she was used to.

She is not the only wife who has lost everything because of the actions of her husband - there are many, at all rungs of society.

Should NAMA bail all of those out as well?

wp_rathead · 14-11-2013 12:13AM

infairness she wanted 10 grand a month
9 grand is pittance

General General · 14-11-2013 12:24AM

Montroseee wrote: »

Changing schools is a very big deal at that age. It may not seem like it is to adults but believe me it really is. I changed schools in 5th yr and it without doubt adversely affected my results. Thankfully the court seemed to understand this, the rest of the judgement I strongly oppose.

So, what makes these kids so special that the cannot face that challenge? especially given the privilege they've experienced up 'til now? I'm pretty sure they care little for any students who have to change school under much harsher circumstances...

Have you any idea of the difference in privilege between a private education costing 1000+ a month versus what even the average person of that age experiences, let alone those from what I will call the disadvantaged situations that exist?

I appreciate your point that it would be a trauma, however, who picks up the tab here? if it IS us, the taxpayer, then is there not a whole lot we should be getting around to first, a whole lot of traumas we need tend to first, before this? or is it that you ignore the cases where the student hasn't got a legal rep' pushing for their well being?

thebaz · 14-11-2013 12:46AM

absolutly disgusting - in this era of never ending austerity , caused by the likes of her husband and his cronies - just goes to show how deluded the judiciary are - meanwhile the HSE go around skrimping money so Ms Connolly can continue to live the high life she was so accustomed to , due to her husbands gambling pursuits - the gamble lost , so suffer like the rest of us , rather than state funded slush fund - pathetic pathetic pathetic

thebaz · 14-11-2013 12:50AM

Montroseee wrote: »

Changing schools is a very big deal at that age. It may not seem like it is to adults but believe me it really is. I changed schools in 5th yr and it without doubt adversely affected my results. Thankfully the court seemed to understand this, the rest of the judgement I strongly oppose.

Private schooling is for people who can afford it rightly or wrongly - if you cant afford it , so be it - why is this woman differnt to other citizens in the country - perhaps because she is a well connected in D4 methinks

OldRio · 14-11-2013 01:01AM

Ah come on lads. Know your place.
Fair play to the lass. Now get on and pay your taxes. That education and house will not pay for itself.

Too bed now, knowing your endeavours at work tomorrow will help.

One must know ones place.

Boombastic · 14-11-2013 01:01AM

hfallada wrote: »

She has gone from living in a large house on Ailesbury road(repossessed by NAMA) to a rented house somewhere else. She has lost everything because of the actions of her husband. Why should she and her children have to suffer by the actions of her husband? €9000 is a lot of money, but its probably spare change to what she was used to.

Whoa, the actions of her husband? I just read this 24 July 2013 http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/builder-behind-priory-hall-loses-luxury-d4-home-29445951.html

'....................Ms Connolly alleged her consent had been "procured" for reckless loans by Irish Nationwide for gambling on property development investment. Although the house had been used as security for the loans none of them had been used as a mortgage to buy the property.................'

Wompa1 · 14-11-2013 01:03AM

Marriage, eh? What man would do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY05HQHYvvA

General General · 14-11-2013 01:04AM

At that rate, she'll burn through the 1m in less than 10 years. I hope someone is keeping a good eye on HER ebay page too.

thebaz · 14-11-2013 01:11AM

Boombastic wrote: »

Whoa, the actions of her husband? I just read this 24 July 2013 http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/builder-behind-priory-hall-loses-luxury-d4-home-29445951.html

it actually gets worse , he was a developer of Priory Hall - instead of compensating the residents of Priory Hall , which I'm sure once again the taxpayers will have to do - we reward the developers spouse with an income of 9,000 a month (for doing nothing) - a pure insult to the people of Ireland.

Bankrupt developer's wife awarded €9000 per month living expenses

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