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  • #62
    bambergbike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭bambergbike


    niceonetom wrote: »
    Has anyone ever actually gotten leaner from low intensity exercise like this? I mean weight loss preferentially from fat without also losing muscle etc? I never have and I haven't noticed it in others. Maybe for very heavy people who are starting from such a low level of fitness that any exercise would have that impact. The leanest athletes I see tend to be the ones that do lots of very explosive/anaerobic stuff...

    Yes, me. Not lean by any means, but leaner. I changed my diet, but definitely also knocked off a few extra kg here and there by doing a long slow weekend rides without much fuel as base miles in Spring 2012. I kept them flat and didn't force the pace so I wouldn't suddenly lose power on a big hill miles from home. If you can chug along without feeling an urgent need to refuel, you're teaching your body to run on fat. If you ride harder, you might be burning more fat in absolute terms, but you'll also exhaust your carb stores and end up having to take on lots of fuel to get home or to recover once you get there.

    It's true that I was pretty heavy in Spring 2012 the time; I'm curious as to whether the same strategy would work now again that I'm a little lighter. I don't think it's a year-round strategy. In fact, I had sort of intended to rinse and repeat in spring 2013 and in the end I never bothered, I just hit the hills immediately as soon as the winter snow melted. By the time the snow melted I think it was practically summer and a bit late to start riding leisurely, boring base miles.

    My improved capacity for fat burning doesn't just make it easier for me to use stored body fat as fuel - it also makes it easier for me to use fat as a fuel source, full stop. A few years ago, I would have felt downright ill if I had stopped in the middle of a hard ride and eaten fish and chips, or a sausage, or cheesecake, or lots of ice-cream. But my stomach no longer discrimates between fat and carbs, it accepts absolutely any old rubbish now. Not sure it really should, but it does.


  • #63
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Tom

    The question you raise whether any fat person has succeeded with low intensity exercise is fascinating.

    Before being fat I was very very fat. I hadn't exercised in years.
    Loved cycling so got back on the bike.

    Weight fell off.

    Was it low intensity - not sure. To someone weight over 18stone who had a decade of heavy partying dri king eating and debauchery with no exercise then there is no such think ad low intensity exercise. It's all hard - your HR is through the roof because you have no aerobic fitness whatsoever.

    8 years later I am five stone lighter and merely fat. I know can do low intensity exercise because I have a level of fitness. Also I can do high intensity stuff and go fast. Before high intensity was simply getting on the bike and hoping not to get a heart attack.

    I no longer believe in low intensity stuff.

    I will do a few A4 races and then my club league. My training regime for the upcoming winter is:
    Fours hours per week max - four 1 hour sessions.
    Mostly zone 3. Starting with 1 hour per week at z4 with 5 minutes of HIIT.
    Over 16 weeks I want to bring that to 3 hours of intensity.

    Gradually building each week and testing for milestones (ie lthr with a set turbo drill and TTs over 5 to 30 minutes).

    No science behind this. I just thought that with a limited time to train that this makes sense. Also the fittest I was ever was the winter it snowed badly. That year training was 2 turbo sessions and 2 ScottMcDonald spinning classes per week with no long rides and some hiking in the snow.

    Long rides and base training for short races are IMHO nonsense.

    Ducks for cover and retreats.


  • #64
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    According to this article. The calorie content on food could be wrong by up to 39% so I'm going to have to revise down the amount of food I can eat. Just to be sure. Not leaving anything to chance.
    http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/02/calorie-count-inaccurate-microbiome-cooking-processed

    New calculations to follow.


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