No blackfaces allowed.

smcgiff · 03-11-2013 01:46PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

What? I wasn't talking about the film, I was pointing out that blackface is caricaturing black people and has a history attached to it which can't be applied to white people because there's no similar history of caricatures.

Well, let's try and keep it specific to the OP post shall we. This specific case is a joke. Dressing up and caricaturing subservient blacks would be wrong.

We need to be mature enough to differentiate and not have knee jerk reactions.

Sonics2k · 03-11-2013 01:47PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Hey, I know, let's dress up as a black person for Halloween.

Utterly fùckin moronic.

Is it any different to dressing up as a "Red Indian" though?

What's next, English people can't dress as Leprechaun's in case it offends the Irish?

Turtyturd · 03-11-2013 01:48PM

WindSock wrote: »

8 Mile?

You know what he meant...but hey it got a couple of thanks.

Ush1 · 03-11-2013 01:49PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

And you got your thankswhoring comment in too! Not to mention the passive-aggresive smiley! Well aren't you just swell?

What? I wasn't talking about the film, I was pointing out that blackface is caricaturing black people and has a history attached to it which can't be applied to white people because there's no similar history of caricatures.

You enabled the thanks whoring if that's the case. Saying "it's going to be one of those threads", really adds so much.

Are you saying it's okay for one but not for the other re the white chicks example?

wexie · 03-11-2013 01:51PM

Reminds me of this.

Absolute nonsense, if anything it'd be a hommage to the (I think pretty cool) characters from Cool Runnings.

Not like they were dressing up as Golliwogs.

WindSock · 03-11-2013 01:52PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

How were black people mocked? The lads went dressed up as characters from a film, who happened to be black.

It's not directly mocking in its intent, but it is in its action. To say that skin colour is a costume that can be donned for an evening and washed off straight after, given the history I guess it can hit a nerve with dark skinned people and no I am not offended on behalf of anyone, just giving my opinion on why I can see blackface is not really acceptable anymore.

Reekwind · 03-11-2013 01:52PM

smcgiff wrote: »

So, you want to dress up as the characters of Cool runnings, what do you do?

Don't black up. Simple, no? Anything else you want (try a a sled, for example) is fine but don't try to appropriate something that's got such racist connotations. Particularly not in the US

I mean, the title of this thread is astounding. Is it really news to people that blackface - ie a practice indelibly associated with racist caricatures - is no longer considered acceptable? What year is this, 1970?

You could say there are millions of white characters they could dress up as, but why the restriction?

Because there has never been a popular genre where black people 'whited up' on national television to propagate the worst racial stereotypes and prejudices. Basically, there's never been an equivalent of this

Sonics2k · 03-11-2013 01:53PM

WindSock wrote: »

It's not directly mocking in its intent, but it is in its action. To say that skin colour is a costume that can be donned for an evening and washed off straight after, given the history I guess it can hit a nerve with dark skinned people and no I am not offended on behalf of anyone, just giving my opinion on why I can see blackface is not really acceptable anymore.

But going as Cowboy's and Indians is fine? Right?

Vicar in a tutu · 03-11-2013 01:54PM

What a load of nonsense.. They wanted to resemble the guys in the film as much as possible, will we start being attacked for using orange hairspray on paddys day now?:pac:

Peregrine · 03-11-2013 01:55PM

That's a stupid reason for suspending someone to be honest.

I don't see the problem with people dressing up as a certain person or group who has a different skin colour.

But if they were to simply "dress up as a black person for Halloween", now that's stupid too.

humbert · 03-11-2013 01:56PM

WindSock wrote: »

It's not directly mocking in its intent, but it is in its action. To say that skin colour is a costume that can be donned for an evening and washed off straight after,

What an odd and imaginative interpretation.

WindSock · 03-11-2013 01:56PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

But going as Cowboy's and Indians is fine? Right?

Cowboys yes, Indians not really.

WindSock · 03-11-2013 01:57PM

humbert wrote: »

What an odd and imaginative interpretation.

Really? It's that odd to see why using racial characteristics as costumes may be offensive? I didn't even have to stretch my imagination much for that one.

rainbowdrop · 03-11-2013 01:59PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

You're my wife now!!!

Hello Dave......

Sonics2k · 03-11-2013 01:59PM

WindSock wrote: »

Cowboys yes, Indians not really.

But nobody gets suspended for that?

In fact you can to Tesco and buy an outfit and face paint for it. Why the exception?

Should Germans not go out as Rabbi's? Or even Moses, just in case it offends?

wexie · 03-11-2013 01:59PM

WindSock wrote: »

Cowboys yes, Indians not really.

hmm....

See I can kinda see where you're coming from. The bit I disagree with though is that, if someone actually had any racist feelings towards a particular group (like first nations people f.e.) then I much doubt they'd be dressing up as them.

To be honest, if you had racist feelings towards 'indians' they'd be more easily expressed by dressing up as a cowboy......

smcgiff · 03-11-2013 02:00PM

Reekwind wrote: »

Because there has never been a popular genre where black people 'whited up' on national television to propagate the worst racial stereotypes and prejudices.

Yeah, and we should get rid of the National flag just because the 'RA have appropriated it.

AGAIN, these guys were not dressed up as golliwogs, they were dressed up as characters that had POSITIVE connotations.

humbert · 03-11-2013 02:01PM

WindSock wrote: »

Really?

Skin colour is a costume? Who said that?

banie01 · 03-11-2013 02:02PM

Muise... wrote: »

(It's ethnically ethical for me to post this. )

Ethnically ethical!
Is that cos your avatar is black? Or an illegal alien???? Or both!

Sorry I'll get me coat!

wexie · 03-11-2013 02:02PM

Reekwind wrote: »

Because there has never been a popular genre where black people 'whited up' on national television to propagate the worst racial stereotypes and prejudices.

And would you cry racism if they did? As in if a bunch of black people decided to dress up as the characters from Friends for Halloween for example?

No?

No I didn't think so.

IvySlayer · 03-11-2013 02:02PM

They are depicting a black bob sleigh team, to do that you need to be......black, whether it's facepaint, whatever

I call all black santas as racist from now on. It offends me and I want them all sacked.

General General · 03-11-2013 02:03PM

Whenever anyone suffers an injury, I like to go over to them & have a good laugh at their expense.. some get quite offended when I do.

OTT, I always tell them... get over yourself!

Friend Computer · 03-11-2013 02:03PM

Ush1 wrote: »

You enabled the thanks whoring if that's the case.

Oh please, this is After Hours, I don't think either of us really expects anyone to thank my post.

Saying "it's going to be one of those threads", really adds so much.

Yep, just as much as your post did.

csallmighty · 03-11-2013 02:03PM

It's pathetic to suspend someone over a halloween costume, unless there was racist intent behind it, which I doubt there was.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-11-2013 02:06PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

They are depicting a black bob sleigh team, to do that you need to be......black.

I call all black santas as racist from now on. It offends me and I want them all sacked.

not just that, but asian spidermans, black indiana jones, indian sherlock holmes, latino walter whites.

people are only allowed dress up in strict accordance with their racial purity.
**** did I say purity, i meant heritage. definitely heritage. this sort of racial profiling is all about love and compassion.

Reekwind · 03-11-2013 02:06PM

smcgiff wrote: »

AGAIN, these guys were not dressed up as golliwogs, they were dressed up as characters that had POSITIVE connotations.

Which in no way excuses using blackface. The image that this brings to mind isn't Cool Runnings but four white guys wearing blackface. The latter cannot be divorced from the minstrel shows

Maybe it will one day, I'd hope so, but not today and certainly not today in the US. Blackface still carries extremely negative racial connotations and we can't ignore that

wexie wrote:

And would you cry racism if they did? As in if a bunch of black people decided to dress up as the characters from Friends for Halloween for example?

I'm not sure why you're quoting me when you clearly haven't read my post. Come back when you have and get the point

WindSock · 03-11-2013 02:07PM

humbert wrote: »

Skin colour is a costume? Who said that?

People in blackface costumes

03-11-2013 02:08PM

Sanka, ya offended mon?

No mon.

Very well, on we go.

Muise... · 03-11-2013 02:08PM

banie01 wrote: »

Ethnically ethical!
Is that cos your avatar is black? Or an illegal alien???? Or both!

Sorry I'll get me coat!

nah, it's cos I'm a redhead with a black-faced avatar.

Oh.

feck.

see you outside.

wexie · 03-11-2013 02:09PM

Reekwind wrote: »

I'm not sure why you're quoting me when you clearly haven't read my post. Come back when you have and get the point

I do get the point I just think you're getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

No blackfaces allowed.

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